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Drug-Resistant Staph Germ's Toll Is Higher Than Thought
WashingtonPost.com ^ | 10/17/2007 | Rob Stein

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:57:17 AM PDT by zencat

A dangerous germ that has been spreading around the country causes more life-threatening infections than public health authorities had thought and is killing more people in the United States each year than the AIDS virus, federal health officials reported yesterday.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: germs; infections; mrsa; sepsis; staph; superbugs

1 posted on 10/17/2007 6:57:19 AM PDT by zencat
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To: zencat

A local talk show host has a daughter that was hospitalized with this infection. It is everywhere so people take care of you and yours. MRSA is nasty stuff.


2 posted on 10/17/2007 7:02:31 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: zencat
A dangerous germ that has been spreading around the country causes more life-threatening infections than public health authorities had thought and is killing more people in the United States each year than the AIDS virus, federal health officials reported yesterday.

So, how many research dollars go into fighting this germ, compared to the AIDS research? And since AIDS is 100% preventable, one would think ... Or should I not ask such questions?
3 posted on 10/17/2007 7:07:58 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: zencat
I wonder how many rock stars will do a benefit concert to help fund research on something that is killing more than AIDS in America?

/crickets

4 posted on 10/17/2007 7:12:31 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: zencat

Saw on the news last night that 100,000 infected in the US last year, 18,000 died!


5 posted on 10/17/2007 7:13:09 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72
Saw on the news last night that 100,000 infected in the US last year, 18,000 died!

The health care systems' dirty little secret. More U.S. people died from THAT than died in Iraq and Afghanistan. Where is the outrage?

6 posted on 10/17/2007 7:18:03 AM PDT by madison10 (Trying to buy USA Made Christmas gifts this year? Good luck with that.)
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To: madison10

My wife had it last year during a long hospital stay and almost succumbed.


7 posted on 10/17/2007 7:20:39 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72
My wife had it last year during a long hospital stay and almost succumbed.

I am sorry to hear that! Glad that she survived and is still with you. :)

8 posted on 10/17/2007 7:26:07 AM PDT by madison10 (Trying to buy USA Made Christmas gifts this year? Good luck with that.)
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To: zencat; y'all
Understanding MRSA Prevention
9 posted on 10/17/2007 7:28:55 AM PDT by Dysart (Temporarily Unavailable)
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To: barker

I recall that you have seen the effects of this on a family member.


10 posted on 10/17/2007 7:29:25 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
So, how many research dollars go into fighting this germ, compared to the AIDS research? And since AIDS is 100% preventable, one would think ... Or should I not ask such questions? How dare you even ask. Mark Moreford will now pronounce you anathema.
11 posted on 10/17/2007 7:33:51 AM PDT by MrEdd (Ron Paul is Ralph Nader for the right...)
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To: madison10

What does MRSA have to do with Iraq? Your comment doesn’t make any sense.


12 posted on 10/17/2007 7:50:40 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: AU72

My son and his wife had it recently, but neither required hospitalization. They seem to have weathered it pretty well, and granddaughter didn’t get it. She is in pre-school however, and I fear for her. Some schools around this area are closed right now because of outbreaks. DIL is a kindergarten teacher, so the danger is always there.


13 posted on 10/17/2007 7:56:34 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: ga medic
What does MRSA have to do with Iraq? Your comment doesn’t make any sense.

The media and Liberals keep that running tally of how many troops have been killed in the war in both Afghanistan and Iraq, dragging it out every once in a while to make their anti-war point.

This is the FIRST I've heard about the peril from staph and the death rates from it. Who is campaigning to guarantee the sterility of hospitals? Where are the fund-raisers for staph victims?

Get my point yet?

14 posted on 10/17/2007 8:11:32 AM PDT by madison10 (Trying to buy USA Made Christmas gifts this year? Good luck with that.)
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To: madison10

There has been quite a bit of coverage on the threat of MRSA. Sterility in hospitals isn’t the main problem, although lack of sterility in hospitals can make the problem much worse. The problem is that around 25 - 30 percent of people carry staph bacteria on their skin. Combine that with open skin incisions, and patients with compromised immune systems, and there is going to be a problem. It is not a direct result of any decision made or lack of action (for the most part).

The deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan are the direct result (positively or negatively) of the decision to place our soldiers in that country, their assigned mission, rules of engagement, and military strategy. The death toll in Iraq is one way to determine the success or failure of the mission.

You can make a logical argument that the public needs to be better informed about staph infections, and MRSA. But the death tolls in Iraq and cases of bacterial infection are not comparable at all.


15 posted on 10/17/2007 8:40:25 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: Dysart

Thank you for the link. We all need to know of a guaranteed way to protect ourselves from this super-bug.

I believe I must have gotten it at the ‘super-center’. Touching the handle on the cart? Picking up merchandise that others may have handled? Handling money at the register?

I always us a hand sanitizer every time I get into my car - no matter where I have been. The first thing I do when I get home from anywhere, is scrub my hands with soap and hot water.

Yet, I still got it. I am very thankful that the antibiotics are finally working. (Along with prayer).


16 posted on 10/17/2007 9:20:37 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie
Sorry to hear of your illness, but glad your doing better. And the method of contracting the illness must be a recurring thought...would be for me!

I was at a Sams Club over the wkend and was in the restroom washing my hands, when I heard some guy in one of the stalls carrying on (sounded like he was in labor) when he apparently finished his business and burst out of the stall and bolted for the exit, bypassing that pesky hand washing ordeal. Lack of proper hygiene is a significant contributer to the spread of this and other diseases. I had to resist grabbing this guy by the ear leading him back to the sink. Of course, I didn't want to touch him so...

17 posted on 10/17/2007 10:46:26 AM PDT by Dysart (Temporarily Unavailable)
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To: Dysart

That guy in the restroom at Sam’s club could be the guy that prepares your salad at the restaurant. It’s disgusting!

A doctor discussing this on FNC this morning said that the super-bug (MRSA) can live on inanimated objects for weeks! He recommended hand sanitizer and hand washing to be safer. (Which I do all the time. Go figure.)


18 posted on 10/17/2007 11:24:40 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: Sunshine Sister

The real problem is that they are not telling the truth that this staph infection can be connected to ILLEGAL ALIENS. Mexicans are known for having easy access to antibiotics and not finishing them. This is just another reason to stop the invasion from MEXICO.


19 posted on 10/17/2007 11:27:42 AM PDT by Exton1
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To: Sunshine Sister

The real problem is that they are not telling the truth that this staph infection can be connected to ILLEGAL ALIENS. Mexicans are known for having easy access to antibiotics and not finishing them. This is just another reason to stop the invasion from MEXICO.


20 posted on 10/17/2007 11:27:56 AM PDT by Exton1
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To: zencat

I know one person who’s had three people in her immediate circle all get a staph infection. None had been previously hospitalized. One had an open sore to begin with of unknown origin, and one had an insect sting.
I wonder if this person I know is a “carrier”.


21 posted on 10/17/2007 1:02:58 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Please understand me, everything's alright. I just musta notta gotta lotta sleep last night.)
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To: zencat

I also wonder if the increased spread has to do with the inability to carry hand sanitizer (in anything but 3 oz in a baggie) on an airplane?


22 posted on 10/17/2007 1:06:11 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Please understand me, everything's alright. I just musta notta gotta lotta sleep last night.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

This staph infection isn’t a direct result of behavior choices, so the left won’t champion spending countless taxpayer dollars to prevent the consequences of it.


23 posted on 10/17/2007 1:07:25 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: zencat

Use anti-bacterial soaps and hand products. Bring them with you on business trips and use them religiously before eating out and after flights/cabs etc. For kids, have them bring it to school, that is where much of this is spreading. Spray keyboards and telephones with Lysol, furniture occasionally.


24 posted on 10/17/2007 1:19:24 PM PDT by quant5
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To: MrB

Yes, some fatal conditions are more acquired than others.


25 posted on 10/17/2007 3:44:43 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: zencat

I had a friend who died in just a few short days from a staph infection picked up while working at a hospital. Nasty, nasty way to go. It was just awful. And I think this kind of thing happens a lot more than is reported in the news. It’s only because the teenage kid got it and the schools are being shut down are we starting to hear about it in the media because of the “shock” value.


26 posted on 10/17/2007 3:57:32 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Yep.

We’re scared of Anthrax, or Ebola.

How clever to find and disperse a mutation of a common bacteria.

Could be that the bacteria or virus mutated on it’s own (they constantly do).

Or could be it was engineered in a lab and introduced into this country by an enemy.

Makes me wonder.


27 posted on 10/17/2007 4:26:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: UCANSEE2

MRSA is definitely not engineered. The mutation is just a consequence of antibiotic use/overuse. It’s been around for a while, but it has just recently (in the past few years) escaped hospitals into the community. It may also be beoming more virulent, but it’s hard to tell from isolated cases.
I currently work with it in my Master’s research.


28 posted on 10/17/2007 9:16:12 PM PDT by Libertarianchick
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To: texastoo

Here is another thread on MRSA. Post #9 has a good link.


29 posted on 10/17/2007 9:25:10 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

Thanks for the ping.

I think the CDC has let us down. This is beginning epidemic stages for this disease. This is totally unusual for so many young people to contact MRSA.


30 posted on 10/17/2007 9:52:16 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: texastoo

I agree. It also sounds like there is NO TRACKING for this, NO REPORTING. They were guessing from 9 urban centers to project for the rest of the country on one of the threads I know I was on in the past few days.

They just don’t even know. It is disgusting.


31 posted on 10/17/2007 9:55:35 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: zencat

bump for publicity


32 posted on 10/17/2007 9:57:20 PM PDT by VOA
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To: TruthConquers

Every hospital that I know of has had MRSA cases forf the last 10 years or more. Actually, this is an epidemic when you have thousands of cases a year. Why the CDC hasn’t called it, I don’t know. It is very serious.

I believe one of the first threads we were on was from Great Briton. They are blaming the nurses for the problem. But it looks like this is a world wide problem .We haven’t heard from WHO yet.


33 posted on 10/17/2007 10:04:51 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: zencat

A friend told me recently in a casual conversation that her dad had died from MRSA about one year ago. I had never heard of it.

Now it seems I am reading about it on almost a daily basis.

Just goes to show you what the overuse of antibiotics has reaped for us.


34 posted on 10/17/2007 10:10:41 PM PDT by Reddy (VOTE CONSERVATIVE in '08!)
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To: yorkie

Prayers continue for you.


35 posted on 10/17/2007 10:12:45 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: texastoo

That’s right! I remember now. TEN YEARS?!! It is very serious. It is certainly very perplexing that this is being allowed to fester on such a large scale. Basically, it is criminal.

It is off to bed for me. This issue will need watching.


36 posted on 10/17/2007 10:18:37 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: TASMANIANRED

I just finished reading this thread. I am doing so much better, and thank you so much for your prayers. It was a scary time. Still have more to go through, but I think the worst has passed.


37 posted on 10/17/2007 10:18:52 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: TruthConquers

“It also sounds like there is NO TRACKING for this, NO REPORTING.
They were guessing from 9 urban centers to project for the rest of the
country on one of the threads I know I was on in the past few days.”

I know it’s a bit of a sidebar...but here’s a bit about infections
acquired while in hospital.

The UGLY truth is that sometimes hospitals KNOW they’ve got a real
problem with fighting infection, especially in the sad cases of people
that pick up awful infections just by coming in for a simple procedure.

And sadly, in one documentary I saw about the Pittsburgh area, the
hospitals have “gentlemen’s agreements” to not publically report
their level of problem with infections.

BUT, one Pittburgh doctor has gone on a crusade and is seeing lowering
of post-operative infections. He finally talked to the business suits
running the school and used REAL NUMBERS to show them that the hospital
basically lost a boatload of money on every patient that picked up
an infection in the hospital. That’s how Shannon got management
to buy into supporting extra efforts to stem infection.

Here’s link to a story about his fight against infection...at least
in the hospital environment:
http://www.ramcampaign.org/pages/presskit_dr_richard_shannon.htm


38 posted on 10/17/2007 10:24:21 PM PDT by VOA
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To: TruthConquers

Until recently MRSA was pretty much confined to hospitals. Those who got it in hospitals typically had seriously compromised immune systems. My son was among them. It’s not so easy to anticipate its spread among the general population.

There is now a strain, CA-MRSA, that has spread among the public. Simultaneously, TB is recurring as well as other diseases we had assumed were wiped out decades ago.

At the risk of sounding xenophobic, one does have to wonder how much of this is related to waves of immigrants, legal and not, who have neither been immunized, nor follow traditional American hygienic practices. I.e., another of my sons worked at a very upscale yuppy supermarket in a department (kitchen) where he was the only US-born employee. He ultimately left because he was so disgusted that people working with food that was sold to the public couldn’t even bother to cover their mouths when they coughed, much less wash their hands. His co-workers were not Mexican by the way.


39 posted on 10/17/2007 10:26:13 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: yorkie

I’m glad you are doing better...

Will continue to pray though..

We love one another across distance through prayer.


40 posted on 10/18/2007 9:07:01 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: TASMANIANRED; TruthConquers

Thank you so much! I am doing much better, but am still concerned about a recurrance.

I just heard on FNC that an illegal with drug reisitance TB has been deported 76 times. (He keeps coming back, using alias - and even flying. I think they said he has flown Delta.)

Just the thought of being at 30,000 feet, locked in a steel tube with someone who is breathing an incurable germ into the air makes me ill.

And, Tas - yes we do love each other accross the country through prayer. I am so greatful.


41 posted on 10/18/2007 9:36:18 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: EDINVA; VOA

Thank you for this information. I have been aware that not all medical people will tell you the complete truth about the nature of your risks in the care of someone else. I did not realize that this has been an industry wide problem extending into hospitals. I am sure I am not alone in that.

I do have to agree with you EDINVA about the illegal problem. I live in Southern Crazyfornia and it does worry me. Modern arrogance and a generation or more since there has been a true medical scare(polio), have caused way too many people to become lazy and complacent.

And that is just plain scary about your son’s experience in the food industry. Yikes!!!


42 posted on 10/18/2007 1:29:06 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: zencat

I wonder if anyone has tried using crocodillin the peptide anti-biotic derived from crocodile blood. It would be interesting to see if they could use it in trial runs.


43 posted on 10/18/2007 2:14:46 PM PDT by techcor
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