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The Secret History of the Impending War with Iran That the White House Doesn't Want You to Know
Esquire magazine ^ | October 17, 2007 | John H. Richardon

Posted on 10/17/2007 8:07:38 AM PDT by america4vr

In the years after 9/11, Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann worked at the highest levels of the Bush administration as Middle East policy experts for the National Security Council. Mann conducted secret negotiations with Iran. Leverett traveled with Colin Powell and advised Condoleezza Rice. They each played crucial roles in formulating policy for the region leading up to the war in Iraq. But when they left the White House, they left with a growing sense of alarm -- not only was the Bush administration headed straight for war with Iran, it had been set on this course for years. That was what people didn't realize. It was just like Iraq, when the White House was so eager for war it couldn't wait for the UN inspectors to leave. The steps have been many and steady and all in the same direction. And now things are getting much worse. We are getting closer and closer to the tripline, they say.

"The hard-liners are upping the pressure on the State Department," says Leverett. "They're basically saying, 'You've been trying to engage Iran for more than a year now and what do you have to show for it? They keep building more centrifuges, they're sending this IED stuff over into Iraq that's killing American soldiers, the human-rights internal political situation has gotten more repressive -- what the hell do you have to show for this engagement strategy?' "

But the engagement strategy was never serious and was designed to fail, they say. Over the last year, Rice has begun saying she would talk to "anybody, anywhere, anytime," but not to the Iranians unless they stopped enriching uranium first. That's not a serious approach to diplomacy, Mann says. Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. That's how wars are averted.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flyntleverett; hillarymann; iran; iraq; jihadists; mahdi; middleeast; tehran; victory; waronterror
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Let us all hope for the best possible outcome. Godspeed and good luck.
1 posted on 10/17/2007 8:07:40 AM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr

Just another campaign in the war on terror.


2 posted on 10/17/2007 8:08:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: america4vr
The Secret History of the Impending War with Iran That the White House Doesn't Want You to Know

they make it sound like it was a bad thing? Time to open a can of Whoopass!

3 posted on 10/17/2007 8:13:26 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Vaquero

Whenever I want complete unbiased coverage of the White House, I turn to Esquire.


4 posted on 10/17/2007 8:15:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: BenLurkin
...not only was the Bush administration headed straight for war with Iran, it had been set on this course for years.

Duh. This is like being surprised that France was not the ultimate objective of the Normandy invasion.

How many times in the last presidential election did we hear a Dem candidate say Iran was the real threat instead of Iraq? Even they know what's going on.

5 posted on 10/17/2007 8:16:19 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: america4vr

STFU!!! These loud mouths are going to get us all killed!! Does NO ONE have ANY LOYALTY to the person who gave thema job? They make me sick.....and they sound like anti-SEMITES!


6 posted on 10/17/2007 8:16:45 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: america4vr

This was the most ridiculous, contradiction-filled, biased article I have read in quite some time.


7 posted on 10/17/2007 8:18:38 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Vaquero
You can have one of mine. I bought a case.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

8 posted on 10/17/2007 8:19:26 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I read Vanity Fair - they have the most unbiased political reporting (sarc)


9 posted on 10/17/2007 8:19:27 AM PDT by xcullen
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To: america4vr
It was just like Iraq, when the White House was so eager for war it couldn't wait for the UN inspectors to leave

Oh, really. Mind explaining why we sat on our hands for almost ten years then?
10 posted on 10/17/2007 8:20:13 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: america4vr
"History" of a future event?

Let me tell you the history of how I will win the lottery in November.

11 posted on 10/17/2007 8:20:41 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: america4vr

Hey, nobody REALLY reads the articles in Esquire.


12 posted on 10/17/2007 8:23:12 AM PDT by kitkat (I refuse to let the DUers chase me off FR.)
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To: xcullen

Until about two years ago, I didn’t know Esquire was still in business.


13 posted on 10/17/2007 8:23:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: america4vr
Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. That's how wars are averted.

War is the complete failure of diplomacy. Diplomacy works only when both sides are negotiating in good faith. Iran has no such pretense. They see war as an inevitable outcome and want it hastened. They are religious fanatics that see themselves as the savior of the Islamic faith. They will not stop the enrichment program nor will they allow themselves to be intimidated by the West. It's all a matter of religious fervor to them. The USSR didn't have a death wish nor a built-in persecution complex. You cannot negotiate with a fanatic.................

14 posted on 10/17/2007 8:23:58 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: reagan_fanatic

***It was just like Iraq, when the White House was so eager for war it couldn’t wait for the UN inspectors to leave***

<<<Oh, really. Mind explaining why we sat on our hands for almost ten years then?<<<

Correct! AND spent fourteen months after 9/11 trying to get the UN to agree that we were attacked and had a right to protect ourselves.


15 posted on 10/17/2007 8:26:52 AM PDT by kitkat (I refuse to let the DUers chase me off FR.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

(chuckle)


16 posted on 10/17/2007 8:30:29 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Most of the State Dept is Arab lovers.


17 posted on 10/17/2007 8:33:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Do you want to be right or successful!)
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To: BenLurkin

Please join me in a prayer to Almighty God for peace or, baring that, for a nice, tight bomb pattern...


18 posted on 10/17/2007 8:33:56 AM PDT by sailor4321
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To: mad_as_he$$

Arab Lovers and America Haters.....BAD combo.


19 posted on 10/17/2007 8:34:57 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Red Badger
Two clarifications to your post... it is Iran's leadership that wants war. A large number of Iranian citizens, especially the younger ones, tend to be pro-Western-reform... which is exactly why the older hard-liners have to hurry. In 25 years, their ilk will be an extreme minority.
20 posted on 10/17/2007 8:38:53 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: america4vr

The war with Iran started 400 days before Ronald Reagan, but the ballless wonder of a President at the time didn’t see it.


21 posted on 10/17/2007 8:40:00 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You forgot. /sarcasm


22 posted on 10/17/2007 8:43:39 AM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: america4vr

Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies.


I disagree with that statement. It is more than talking.


23 posted on 10/17/2007 8:46:33 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

As usual, the lefties confuse diplomacy with surrender.


24 posted on 10/17/2007 8:48:57 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: Suzy Quzy

This is from the June 29, 2006 broadcast of Fox News Radio’s Brian & The Judge.

“...HAYWORTH: Well, E.D., I don’t know that we need an office of Censorship. What we do need to rediscover, if you will, is a notion that I guess was borne out in World War II. Stephen Ambrose, the late biographer of Dwight Eisenhower, writes very eloquently of a situation prior to D-Day, when Ike called together the war correspondents in — in England and said, “Fellas, just thought you ought to know, we’re going to go in early June.” And Ambrose, in that wonderful biography, says to a man, the war correspondents stopped writing, and one asked, “General, why did you tell us?” And Ike responded, “Because you’re good Americans and I know you will not jeopardize the lives of fellow Americans.”
We all need to rediscover that, especially those in journalism who have taken it upon themselves to become the arbiters of what should be national security and some who argue that no, they’re really not so much citizens of the United States, now they are citizens of the world, neutral observers of the scene. That’s a strange type of reasoning here and it’s certainly — I won’t call it politically correct. I think it’s nationally suicidal.


25 posted on 10/17/2007 8:52:10 AM PDT by Patriot Hooligan ("God have mercy on my enemies because I won't." General George S. Patton)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“the ballless wonder of a President”

Carter: the first female President?


26 posted on 10/17/2007 8:52:38 AM PDT by mad puppy (I'd rather live a day on my feet than a year on my knees)
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To: Teacher317

Yes, I meant the Mullahs and Imams in power. And they keep a tight rein on that power. When you can do anything you want in the name of Allah, even to the death of your own citizenry, that’s a pretty powerful tool to keep people intimidated. As for the age thing, they are busy I’m sure “educating” the youngest among them to take over and continue the regime.......


27 posted on 10/17/2007 8:53:19 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: america4vr
>"Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. That's how wars are averted."

Avert this!

Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

"Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled." Sura 9:29

Sura 9:5 of the “Koran,” “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”
Which parts of these words of mohamhead-n-satanallah are you having trouble understanding?



Let's negotiate.

28 posted on 10/17/2007 8:56:34 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Hey Jessie, how much melanin do you have to have to form a socially acceptable lynch mob?)
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To: bmwcyle

‘swhat old age will do to you...


29 posted on 10/17/2007 8:57:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Patriot Hooligan

The left WANT AMERICA brought to her knees because they DETEST Bush so much!!!!


30 posted on 10/17/2007 8:58:58 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Vaquero

Yup. Talking did the Brits a lot of good when they tried to negotiate peace with Herr Hitler.

Talking worked great with the Japanese as well.

You what works well when you’re talking to your enemies: The knowledge that you will come down on them like a large hammer on an anvil if you have to do so, if and when talks fail. A large cocked pistol of the table, so to speak, is a great impetus to successful negotiations.

BTW, I stopped reading “Esquire” years ago. It used to be edited for men. Now it’s produced for hand wringing wimps who love to get manicures.


31 posted on 10/17/2007 8:59:28 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: america4vr
Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. That's how wars are averted.

Thanks for the lecture, Mr. Neville Chamberlain.

32 posted on 10/17/2007 9:00:08 AM PDT by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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To: america4vr

Hillary Mann is the wife of Flynt Leverett.

Levertt has worked for Brookings, a lib thinkless tank.


33 posted on 10/17/2007 9:00:26 AM PDT by Seeking the truth (Sale on Pajama Patrol Badges & Pins @ www.0cents.com)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Don’t worry. You remind me and I’ll remind you and that should keep us both out of the home.


34 posted on 10/17/2007 9:02:08 AM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: america4vr
That's not a serious approach to diplomacy, Mann says. Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. That's how wars are averted.

Thank God we got to talk to the Nazis at Munich. Otherwise we might have had a war.

35 posted on 10/17/2007 9:02:39 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Great article. I love seeing these.

I’m sure that some will close their eyes to the glaring contradiction posed by the idea of getting a grand bargain from an Iranian agent, acting in secrecy, who’s afraid their own government will kill their family and torture them, but people who gloss over that are already dead to me anyway.

Laying the case for war with Iran is like most other political endeavors, repetition, repetition, repetition.

Thank you, Esquire, your efforts towards laying the case for war with Iran are greatly appreciated.

:-)


36 posted on 10/17/2007 9:04:26 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: america4vr
Leverett traveled with Colin Powell and advised Condoleezza Rice.

Thanks to the author for that bias alert, which told me to stop reading right there.

37 posted on 10/17/2007 9:05:21 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Don't lie.

It was 444 days before Ronald Reagan.

{{{wink}}}

38 posted on 10/17/2007 9:07:30 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: america4vr
>>>Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. <<<

Diplomacy is about talking with those with whom you have differences, prior to them becoming enemies.

An Enemy is to be defeated.

There is nothing to talk to Iran about - the Iranian mullahs are implacably opposed to our way of life. That might be OK, if they had a "live and let Live" approach to co-existance.

But they don't. Victory is the only solution.

Mann is an idiot - and he has a lot of company!

39 posted on 10/17/2007 9:14:36 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: DCPatriot
“It was 444 days before Ronald Reagan.” .......... Actually it was February 12th 1979. After he reneged on his promise to the Shah that we would back him 100%.
40 posted on 10/17/2007 9:17:30 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
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To: Red Badger

“Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. That’s how wars are averted.”

— Neville Chamberlin


41 posted on 10/17/2007 9:21:43 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: Vaquero

These people believed and identified with their Iranian contacts more than the White House. “He voted for Bush in 2000”- sure.
Powell CYA loyalists.


42 posted on 10/17/2007 9:26:10 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: BenLurkin

If the Media had its way, the Islamos would be running the NY Times in stopping any talk of opposing any Islamofascist globalization. I hope the Bushies are planning a contingency to stop the Iranians. When Hil wins, we will have Muslim schools telling the parents how to raise our kids!


43 posted on 10/17/2007 9:27:04 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Seeking the truth

But, but, he voted for Bush! He says so!


44 posted on 10/17/2007 9:29:00 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: america4vr

“Diplomacy is about talking to your enemies. That’s how wars are averted.”

WRONG....
Basic Machevelli:

Diplomacy only works when BOTH SIDES have something to gain by it, such as the prevention of a war.

In this case, the nutjobs in IRAN want the War, and the BOMB, so they have nothing to gain by negotiating...


45 posted on 10/17/2007 9:31:46 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: america4vr

In other Esquire news...

Charlize Theron has an Oscar, a Golden Globe and a Screen Actors Guild award. Now she’s Esquire magazine’s “sexiest woman alive.”

When I want solid, hard-hitting journalism, I grab a copy of Esquire.

BTW - Iran has been at war with the US since the 70s. Its about time we fight back!


46 posted on 10/17/2007 9:37:34 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Let him rave on that men may know him mad.")
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To: america4vr

Iran is nothing more than the next domino in the war on terror.
We will have to confront them sooner or later.
It’s better if it’s on our terms and before they have a viable nuke to use.


47 posted on 10/17/2007 9:38:40 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: mad puppy
Carter:the first female president?

No, that is not correct. While that what defines a Democrat/left-winger/ liberal is the very emasculation of political will/fortitude, Carter is our first eunuch president.

48 posted on 10/17/2007 10:05:55 AM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr

One day during the U.S. bombing campaign, Mann and her Iranian counterparts were sitting around the wooden conference table speculating about the future Afghani constitution. Suddenly the Iranian who knew so much about intelligence matters started pounding on the table. "Enough of that!" he shouted, unfurling a map of Afghanistan. Here was a place the Americans needed to bomb. And here, and here, he angrily jabbed his finger at the map.

Iran is happy to work with anyone, including nations' it considers to be irredeemably evil, to achieve its imperial ambitions. Iranian officials understand how to manipulate the idealists in every democratic Administration. Indeed, Europe is far more susceptible to Iranian political obfuscations. The fact is, the Islamic Republic of Iran is always looking for traction. They operate by proxy! It’s a global pattern that endures because of its effectiveness. Mann and her husband have served a similar purpose within the Administration. In other words, Mann and her husband are proxy agents for spreading Iran’s empire.

It doesn't matter what the Iranians offered. It only matters what they do and when they do it. Nothing in this article indicates Tehran’s willingness to stop spreading its toxic ideology. Nothing in this article indicates Iran’s will to join the international community as a partner. These are the most basic principals of cooperation and mutual respect. Mann and her husband were the inadvertent vehicles for another of Tehran's misinformation campaigns. This is a scary article. It is sad to see how politically malleable these two were in the midst of an ideological war. For their unwitting service to Tehran, they've lost a great deal of career potential. It would seem that their real handicap is an inability to listen to their own situation holistically. Mann should have learned from the exchange I excerpted. It is the only piece of seemingly classified information her and her husband leaked with any substance.

49 posted on 10/17/2007 10:08:23 AM PDT by humint (...err the least and endure! VDH)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

BAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA HAHAHA!

Right?

Esquire? PLEASE!


50 posted on 10/17/2007 10:15:28 AM PDT by debm29palms (Proud Wife of SSgt. Donald C. May, Jr. KIA March 25, 2003)
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