Wow! I coulda had a V8!
Posted on 10/17/2007 2:00:08 PM PDT by 300magnum
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush warned on Wednesday a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to World War III as he tried to shore up international opposition to Tehran amid Russian skepticism over its nuclear ambitions.
Bush was speaking a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has resisted Western pressure to toughen his stance over Iran's nuclear program, made clear on a visit to Tehran that Russia would not accept any military action against Iran.
At a White House news conference, Bush expressed hope Putin would brief him on his talks in Tehran and said he would ask him to clarify recent remarks on Iran's nuclear activities.
Putin said last week that Russia, which is building Iran's first atomic power plant, would "proceed from the position" that Tehran had no plans to develop nuclear weapons but he shared international concerns that its nuclear programs "should be as transparent as possible."
"The thing I'm interested in is whether or not he continues to harbor the same concerns that I do," Bush said. "When we were in Australia (in September), he reconfirmed to me that he recognizes it's not in the world's interest for Iran to have the capacity to make a nuclear weapon."
Bush, who has insisted he wants a diplomatic solution to the Iranian issue, is pushing for a third round of U.N. sanctions against Iran.
Russia, a veto-holding member of the Security Council, backed two sets of limited U.N. sanctions against Iran but has resisted any tough new measures.
Stepping up his rhetoric, Bush said a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a "dangerous threat to world peace."
"We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel," he said. "So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."
PUTIN'S "SPECIAL MESSAGE"
Iran rejects accusations it is seeking to develop a nuclear bomb, saying it wants nuclear technology for peaceful civilian purposes such as power generation, and has refused to heed U.N. Security Council demands to halt sensitive uranium enrichment.
Chief Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani was quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency on Wednesday as saying that Putin had delivered a "special message" on its atomic program and other issues. No other details were given.
Putin's visit on Tuesday was watched closely because of Moscow's possible leverage in the Islamic Republic's nuclear standoff with the West. It was the first time a Kremlin chief went to Iran since Josef Stalin in 1943.
Asked about Putin's "special message," U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey said he was not aware of any deal or offer put forward by Moscow to Tehran over the nuclear program.
On Russian opposition to Caspian Sea states being used to launch attacks against Iran, Casey reiterated that Bush kept all his options on the table but that the United States was committed to the diplomatic path with Tehran.
(Additional reporting by Frederick Dahl in Tehran and Sue Pleming in Washington)
WW3= Armageddon
Shouldn't that be World War Five?
It’s only a matter of time when we attack Iran.
BLOAT = Buy Lots Of Ammo Today.
ping for future.
Yep, Revelations is about to take place.
Which revelations?
Maybe the grand finale for WWIV.
Wow! I coulda had a V8!
Its going to be the Israelis who ultimately take out Iran. If we do it, the Russians will step in.
"Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled." Sura 9:29
Untill this declaration is recinded, or they are vanquished.
It's ooooon!
In lighter news.... Bush WWIII ....Pope Catholic.... Bear Woods
To quote Albert Einstein: "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
God help us all.....
Mr. President, WWIII is well underway.
The Iraq war has gone just so well that our “conservative” President can’t wait to start another meaningless, incredibly wasteful and goal-less war in the Mideast over Iran.
Does this qualify for the End Times Ping List?
This one?
Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach. Turned out this one was older, and I got directed here.
Russia would not accept? Why the hell do we care what Russia would accept? Russia, under the KGB of which good ole Prez Putt-hen was a member, murdered, butchered, made to disappear, beat, and all means of things to people who did not believe as they believed. This was their citizens, their countrymen and women, yet they brutalized them. So, He endorses murder as the Izz-lums do. Plus he sells them millions of dollars worth of nuke stuff.
Yes, Israel will not wait to build popular opinion or gather UN votes. If they feel threatened, they will act on their own.
We'll do it by proxy using Israel. Screw Russia.
Wasn’t it Nostradamus who said/wrote something to that effect (WW4 - Fought with Sticks and Stones)?
I think that calls for another Nobel Peace Prize, no?
[PDF] Senate to Probe Vice President’s Secret Deals on Russian Arms to Iran
102300Senate.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Secret Agreement May’Also Involve Nuclear Cooperation with Iran. Vice President Gore’s meetings with Chernomyrdin also may have involved Russia’s ...
rpc.senate.gov/_files/102300Senate.pdf
http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/102300Senate.pdf
Nitpick much?
Only in bizarroland does Bush get the blame for what’s been building in Iran for the last 28 years.
And, contrary to what your television tells you, the war in Iraq is going well. As well as a war can go, anyway... though, it wasn’t the theme-park ride America was hoping for.
Don’t know about that, but we are in for some rather interesting times.
You are a fool.
PrezDubya: "Jus' whaddaryeuw tryin' to say there, Pooty-poot, by usin' that phraseology, "wouldn't accept?" What in the world do you think you could possibly do again' it? Are you threatinin' to make your fancy-dan radars and SAMs hum, bleep, fizzle and go back to sleep one more time?
"Jus' so's we're on a level playin' field, arm-wrastlin'-like, US good-guys won' be accepin' your interference, which, if it raises its ugly, pip-squeaky little pus head, just may get samples from the same delivery Tehran gets. They don' call 'em MIRVs for nuttin'!
"That's Peace through Victory for you, too, Potty-poot!
"M I R - V
HF
And why should we care what he said or thought?
Probably. Will try and attend to it when I get home.
Very glad to see this part of the press conference is receiving attention. The American people need to wake-up and realize that there is a real threat here with Russia and Iran pairing up...
Why not just let Israel handle this? Oh right, we’re both members of the feckless United Nations, and all our wars belong to them. It’s no wonder we don’t have to declare war any more. We are all blue helmets now.
I think Israel may be the only sane country/military power left in our world today!!! We aren’t too far off, but our leaders needs to satisfy the public and not stand up to them and LEAD is getting us in a lot of trouble... and Iran and Russia KNOW this and WILL take advantage of our position if we let them... I think they are COUNTING on it, personally...
Are you counting the French and Indian War?
Do you even live on the same planet as us??? Iran is a REAL threat, and so was Iraq/Saddam... Take your anti-military propoganda elsewhere... The rest of us would like to live in a peaceful and SAFE world if at all possible, and that’s NOT possible with Iran possessing a nuclear weapon and being buddy-buddy with Putin!
Go ahead and laugh but you underestimate the cunning and deadly guile of both Putin and Ahmandinejad..They both know that whoever controls the oil supply controls the world. Both are power hungry and will stop at nothing.
The day may come when Iran launches simultaneous missiles against Israel, London, Paris and Washington which will be the real start of WW III, total chaos...with their armies already in place they may try to swiftly overrun the smaller countries around them and gain control of the Middle East’s oil supply..every day we are getting closer to this nightmare scenario the way things are going in the world...
Why do you say that?
That may be, but they will have no customers for fifty years if they shut down the world economy, and when it returns guess who will be walking all over the ME.
The entire population of earth could fit into Texas with plenty of room, so fitting the armies of earth into the valley wouldn’t be that much of a problem. After a while it would be even less of a problem.
Where is Armageddon? Armageddon is the Hebrew name forThe mountain of Megiddo. Megiddo is the name of a city which is located in the Plain of Es-draelon, a Y shaped region about 15 miles southeast of present day Haifa, Israel. In the Old Testament it is the Valley of Jezreel, and the Valley of Megiddo. More battles have been fought on this plain than on any other battlefield in the world.
Then they gathered the kings together, to the place that in Hebrew is called Arma-geddon. The seventh angel poured out his bowl [vial] into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, "It is done!" Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since man has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God re-membered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the fury of his wrath. Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. From the sky huge hail-stones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God¼ because the plague of hail was so terrible. Revelation 16:16-21 NIV
So either the Bible says what it says or it doesn't. BTW Armageddon is only mentioned ONCE in Rev. 16.
Again I ask - How do you fit all of the armies of the kings into this small area?
Pretty funny watching the world’s press reaction to the stutterer threatening a nuclear WWIII. In his own charming fashion he may have actually made Achmadphlegmajihad and the Born Again Communist Putin rethink their options and back off.
But not for long.
FWIW I have long maintained that a significant conventional military force is the best deterrent to the use of nuclear weapons, on our part. With a large standing army we can project our interests, as we wish, anywhere on the planet when the need dictates. Unfortunately we have depleted our conventional forces to a dangerously low level which renders us irrelevant in force projection.
We currently do not have the conventional forces needed to fully secure Iraq, let alone threaten Iran, North Korea, China or any of the other despotic nations aligned against us.
IMHO it is imperative that we increase our standing military forces to pre-Gulf War I levels as soon as is possible.
We can make nuclear threats only for so long.....
The Turks wiped out the Mongol cohort not far from there and it was close but the tight space worked to their benefit. They were shoulder to shoulder of course. Once the oil runs out the armies will be shoulder to shoulder again. They will all march in and none will come out and they will all fit, space magically appearing in front of them. Late arrivals will have to swim since the blood will be neck deep.
Actually a student of history would instantly recognize that the war went well. The peacekeeping operation in Iraq has gone moderately OK as well by historical standards. However expectations of nice tidy wars with no casualties have increased.
Maybe you think the war in Iraq has not gone well, but a lot of people think it’s improving and we need to hold onto a base in the Middle East from which we can project our power and work to democratize the region.
And if we take out Iran, it won’t be goal-less. Our goals will be to remove Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons and to bring about regime change in Iran.
The result will be an arc of democratic, pro-American states from Iraq, through Iran and to Afghanistan. This result will be transformational for the Middle East.
Russia is emboldened because the traitorous Dims control Congress and have pretty much marginalized and emasculated Bush. Russia is further emboldened because it believes a marxist (either Her Thighness or B. Hussein) will win the presidential election in 2008. To Pootie, things are looking pretty good, and he feels he can strut some stuff.
We would nuke the ME before the oil runs out.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.