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Bush: Threat of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
Reuters ^ | Matt Spetalnick

Posted on 10/17/2007 2:00:08 PM PDT by 300magnum

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush warned on Wednesday a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to World War III as he tried to shore up international opposition to Tehran amid Russian skepticism over its nuclear ambitions.

Bush was speaking a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has resisted Western pressure to toughen his stance over Iran's nuclear program, made clear on a visit to Tehran that Russia would not accept any military action against Iran.

At a White House news conference, Bush expressed hope Putin would brief him on his talks in Tehran and said he would ask him to clarify recent remarks on Iran's nuclear activities.

Putin said last week that Russia, which is building Iran's first atomic power plant, would "proceed from the position" that Tehran had no plans to develop nuclear weapons but he shared international concerns that its nuclear programs "should be as transparent as possible."

"The thing I'm interested in is whether or not he continues to harbor the same concerns that I do," Bush said. "When we were in Australia (in September), he reconfirmed to me that he recognizes it's not in the world's interest for Iran to have the capacity to make a nuclear weapon."

Bush, who has insisted he wants a diplomatic solution to the Iranian issue, is pushing for a third round of U.N. sanctions against Iran.

Russia, a veto-holding member of the Security Council, backed two sets of limited U.N. sanctions against Iran but has resisted any tough new measures.

Stepping up his rhetoric, Bush said a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a "dangerous threat to world peace."

"We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel," he said. "So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

PUTIN'S "SPECIAL MESSAGE"

Iran rejects accusations it is seeking to develop a nuclear bomb, saying it wants nuclear technology for peaceful civilian purposes such as power generation, and has refused to heed U.N. Security Council demands to halt sensitive uranium enrichment.

Chief Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani was quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency on Wednesday as saying that Putin had delivered a "special message" on its atomic program and other issues. No other details were given.

Putin's visit on Tuesday was watched closely because of Moscow's possible leverage in the Islamic Republic's nuclear standoff with the West. It was the first time a Kremlin chief went to Iran since Josef Stalin in 1943.

Asked about Putin's "special message," U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey said he was not aware of any deal or offer put forward by Moscow to Tehran over the nuclear program.

On Russian opposition to Caspian Sea states being used to launch attacks against Iran, Casey reiterated that Bush kept all his options on the table but that the United States was committed to the diplomatic path with Tehran.

(Additional reporting by Frederick Dahl in Tehran and Sue Pleming in Washington)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; bush; deathbymuslims; iran; iraniannukes; islam; jihad; killmenow; letsgetitoverwith; nuclear; ohno; persians; religionofpeace; spartansixdelta; thermopylae; worldwariii; wot; ww3; wwiii; xerxes
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To: ari-freedom

Don’t forget turkey. They could turn on us over night...nice sized military too.

Alexander and napoleon did not have skirmishes going on all over the planet. To be a world war it has to involve more than just the localized region around the homeland.


101 posted on 10/18/2007 7:32:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: 300magnum

It sounds like Bush is none too happy!
It sounds like, first of all, that he didn’t like at all the Putin quote the reporter read to him in the press conference yesterday. And, further it sounds like perhaps Bush followed through on his statement about wanting to talk to Putin about it...

And perhaps most importantly it sounds like Bush is publicly starting to “realize” that Russia is NOT on our side re: the Iran issue (I think/hope he understood this sooner though).

I really hope the public starts to wake up and see these things though, and that the MSM will start reporting better on this issue (but, I’m not holding my breath). I honestly think Russia and Iran are looking at what they hear from our traitorous democrat congress and is thinking that the liberals in this country have hamstrung us and that we can’t go through with any real “offense”, or even “defense” perhaps...

Which is why I hope the SUPPORTERS of the Democrats begin to understand what’s at stake here. We need to appear strong, and not weak as they are making us look... This is the time for the “Big Stick” not the Rodney King response... These people are playing for keeps...

How incredibly frustrating this is...


102 posted on 10/18/2007 9:49:27 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com -- I'm with Fred!!!)
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To: Bear_Slayer
And why should we care what he said or thought?

Because he once said "HILTER"...WOW!!!

103 posted on 10/19/2007 8:07:58 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Quix

What do you teach, Quix?


104 posted on 10/19/2007 11:09:06 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Woodstock

SECURITY is a joke!


105 posted on 10/19/2007 11:12:42 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Again I ask - How do you fit all of the armies of the kings into this small area?

It's supposed to be the "final" battle, right? Perhaps the participants will be the tattered remnants of the formerly vast armies.

106 posted on 10/19/2007 11:17:30 AM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Charles Martel
Interesting thought. Most Bible scholars seem to think this is the get together for the last big one. But if it is the last of many battles then it could be the remnants.
107 posted on 10/19/2007 11:26:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Do you want to be right or successful!)
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To: 300magnum

Ahmendinijad is a puppet master; he is controlling oil going to Europe and Russia. With Russia’s he can gain the nuclear fuel he needs while the allies sit around and bicker at each other uselessly about globasl warming and christian concerns.

Does the Iranian president care?

No.

We are buying time for him to make his move. Turn him to glass.


108 posted on 10/19/2007 3:08:43 PM PDT by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: frogjerk

He never said Hitler he said “Hister” but hey its close.


109 posted on 10/19/2007 7:08:54 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: Marysecretary

psychology.

Thanks for asking.

God’s best to you and yours.

Henry Wright is sure taking it in the groin on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1913137/posts

And the usual platoon of rock throwers is out in force with extra buckets of rocks . . . some of them evidently dipped first in acid.

Sheesh.

And they seem to think God is well pleased. Sigh.


110 posted on 10/19/2007 7:42:53 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Agreed, Armageddon is a real place with a real Biblical prophecy.

There are dozens of locations cited in the Bible which have been discovered and verified in recent years.

Why “interpret” a Bible whose prophesiers have been fulfilled and will continue to be fulfilled.

There is no need to reinvent the wheel, or the Bible.

I very fiercely and strongly agree. Thanks.

111 posted on 10/19/2007 7:45:49 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Ancient Drive

AMEN.

He can take me out of this sin soaked world any time He chooses.

Until then, I covet His guidance, Presence, protection, provision etc. as life itself as HE is the only source of TRUE LIFE . . . JOY, PEACE, HOPE . . .


112 posted on 10/19/2007 7:48:21 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Hey Quix!


113 posted on 10/19/2007 7:49:36 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Thanks for the greeting, Jo.

God’s best to you and yours. I trust you and family are well and growing IN The Lord.

LUB,
BLPH,


114 posted on 10/19/2007 7:51:21 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Thank you for the blessing Quix.
Son is a missionary in Japan.
Daughter and new SIL are starting
their life as partners in Christ.
What parents could be more proud?

May the Lord continue to pour out
His favor upon you as well.

...Jo


115 posted on 10/19/2007 9:52:21 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Prayers for the new marriage and for the missionary efforts in Japan.

God’s best to each of you.

Thanks for your kind words and concern.

God is faithful.


116 posted on 10/19/2007 9:58:40 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 300magnum; Quix

I know this sounds wierd, but I’ve considered
that the name Putin is very close to the name
RAS-Putin. Rasputin was a pre Russian revolution
Mesmerist, false prophet and necromancer who
held great influence with the Czars. He pur-
portedly healed their son who was a hemopheliac.


117 posted on 10/19/2007 9:59:12 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: o_zarkman44

Let us hope not.


118 posted on 10/19/2007 10:12:27 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Jo Nuvark

‘Tis certainly interesting, alright.
Thx.


119 posted on 10/19/2007 10:24:05 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: laconic

And your goal would be?


120 posted on 10/20/2007 9:34:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RightWhale

You have to count F&I since it’s the first World War.


121 posted on 10/20/2007 9:36:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: laconic

Your point of view is so delusional, I don’t know where to begin.


122 posted on 10/20/2007 12:15:40 PM PDT by GregoryFul (is a bear a bomb in a bull?)
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To: Sword_Svalbardt

Iran says they need a nuclear power plant for energy production?

I guess they can’t afford oil at today’s prices.

The plus side with the Russians building it is that when it melts down they will have effectivley shat in their own nest.

And Iranian President Tom (Much easier to pronounce) says when, not if, he gets a nuke he will use it on Israel.

So yeah, why wait, Turn him to glass.


123 posted on 10/20/2007 5:20:10 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: ken21

Now aren’t we really cute! hahahaha duh.........


124 posted on 10/21/2007 7:37:46 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: o_zarkman44

may your poodle go to heaven.


125 posted on 10/21/2007 6:50:24 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: 300magnum
IF they go nuclear?
126 posted on 11/22/2007 7:59:01 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: GideonOfWar
If we do it, the Russians will step in.

I doubt the Russians will want any after they see what happens to Iran.

127 posted on 11/22/2007 8:00:34 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: laconic
The Iraq war has gone just so well that our “conservative” President can’t wait to start another meaningless, incredibly wasteful and goal-less war in the Mideast over Iran.

Get your head out of the sand. The last thing we need in the world is a coalition of powerful oil-rich dictators who want us dead. Or would you rather be speaking Arabic, riding a donkey instead of a car to work, bowing down to an Allah you don't believe in, and having no choice in who runs your country because you are not allowed to vote? I'd rather take my chances with the evil Halliburton and an ignorant Christian from Texas.

128 posted on 11/22/2007 8:11:02 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Russia is jealous of the U.S., but not stupid enough to tell us to our face.


129 posted on 11/22/2007 8:12:01 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: billmor
The day may come when Iran launches simultaneous missiles against Israel, London, Paris and Washington which will be the real start of WW III, total chaos...with their armies already in place they may try to swiftly overrun the smaller countries around them and gain control of the Middle East’s oil supply..every day we are getting closer to this nightmare scenario the way things are going in the world...

If that happened you know China and North Korea would jump in for their own piece of the American pie. And I don't me stocks and bonds.

130 posted on 11/22/2007 8:14:26 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
In Revelation 1/3 of the earth's population is destroyed before the battle of Armageddon:
Rev 9:18 By these three plagues-the fire, the smoke, and the sulfur that came out of their mouths-one-third of humanity was killed.

So until that happens and a lot of other things, there will be no battle of Armageddon. But still, the near future may hold the end of the U.S. or at least the U.S. as we know it as a some-what God-fearing nation, because all the nations of the earth will rise against Israel and will be destroyed.

131 posted on 11/22/2007 8:37:57 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: Bear_Slayer
Nostradamus - a heretic ex-catholic who plagiarized most of his true predictions from the bible. And why should we care what he said or thought?

Interesting that you should say that. I don't know much about him, and I don't think he's the real deal, but a few people I have run into think he's some super prophet or something. I wonder if there is any information that you know of that refutes these false beliefs?

132 posted on 11/22/2007 8:41:26 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: GideonOfWar
Its going to be the Israelis who ultimately take out Iran. If we do it, the Russians will step in.

The Russians will sit by while Israel "takes out" Iran but will "step in" and go head to head with the U.S.?

If so, the Russians will do what to the U.S.? Pit a Russian conventional expeditionary force against the U.S. forces already in theater? Go the Mutually Assured Destruction route against the U.S. for the sake of Iran?

From a purely logistical perspective, how will the IDF carry out the sustained conventional air campaign necessary to "take out" Iran's hardened sites?

The U.S. has the miliatary assets necessary for such a task right across the borders from Iran. Israel does not.

Short of a first use nuclear strike against Iran, the task of "taking out" Iran is beyond Israel's military capabilities. The Israel of today is incapable of "taking out" Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.

The only way that "Israel" will "take out" Iran is if the U.S. paints these

on our aircraft in theater, and, after the month-long air campaign to "take out" Iran, the U.S. says, "The Israelis did it. That's our story and we're stickin' to it!"

133 posted on 11/22/2007 8:46:16 AM PST by Polybius
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To: FFranco

People, especially American people who are products of liberal public education, fail to recognize that, most of the time, the outcomes of wars cannot be predicted. And in fact, the true measure of victory is the apparent achieved closeness to reaching predefined goals rather than the amount of casualties suffered. Many Americans assume that no more than X amount of soldiers should be killed or injured, but that is not the true measurement of victory.

The reality is that that part of the world is a mess and has been a mess for a long time, and sorting out the mess will take an immeasurable amount of time and resources, but it is time to do something while something can be done.

God bless President George W. Bush for his efforts to make the world a safer place for true freedom.


134 posted on 11/22/2007 8:53:55 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Can you splain to me how the Armies of the world are going to fit into that very small valley?

A lot of the world's population will have been wiped out by then. If you read the book of Daniel, it explains that the world will be at war with each other. Throw that in with the fact that the world will be rife with plagues and judgements from God during the tribulation and you can see how no one would survive up until Armageddon except that God will spare a portion of the earth's population.

135 posted on 11/22/2007 8:57:23 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: ari-freedom

The cold war was a near miss...a world war avoided.


136 posted on 11/22/2007 8:59:51 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: LibertyRocks; All

Plus I like to have our wars being fought overseas...


137 posted on 11/22/2007 9:02:29 AM PST by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: laconic
To depose a worthless dictator who was no threat to the US and actually posed a bulwark to Iran?

We see a dictator hell-bent on taking over the middle east and it's oil. We see a ruthless dictator who's army has to be beaten back and beaten down by our troops and even after that still refused to cooperate with his terms of surrender. You wouldn't call that a threat to not only the U.S. and the middle east, but to the world?

A power-crazed dictator who called himself Nebuchadnezzar and modeled his regime after the third Reich. Can we say history repeating itself all over again? What more does a terrorist have to do before you silly leftist wimps feel the need to stand up for yourselves? At least I have enough sense to know the right side of a tank to stand on. Do you get all your talking points from CNN and Obama or have you ever actually taken the time to understand what universe you are from yet? Get a clue, bro.

138 posted on 11/22/2007 9:10:53 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: 300magnum; All

IMHO, we are already in WW III, just like in the one we [America] were slow to wake up to this fact untill we were hit on our homeland. But unlike the 1940’s there is now a will accomplus to the actions of putting our country back to “sleep”. The msm, and the liberals who say that we were to balme for all of the mess that the world is now in, just look att the decant ways that we live when most of the world has little to nothing of what we have. There fore we deserve what we get.

But when some country gets into trouble who do they call, they call US for help, and we go over there [where ever there is] and help not asking for anything in return.
So now it is time for us to establish a pax americana [peace from America], after all we have become the worlds policeman, and sometimes the cop on the beat has to be tough to put the bullies in place. So we must do so now.
I am sorry if I seem to be ranting, but this is how I feel!


139 posted on 11/22/2007 9:12:04 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: GAB-1955

You forgot your tax forms. Don’t your rations seized by the always helpful and relevant IRS.


140 posted on 11/22/2007 9:13:28 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: TMSuchman

The difference is that in this the foothills of war casualties are in the thousands per month. When the real deal starts up causalties will be thousands per hour.


141 posted on 11/22/2007 9:13:44 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: RightWhale
I agree with you on this one.. :>)

This is only the opening skirmishes of the looming war front..

142 posted on 11/22/2007 9:16:45 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: LifeOrGoods?
Info here and try googling "nostradamus heretic"
143 posted on 11/22/2007 9:19:21 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: TMSuchman

Could be. We of the ‘duck and cover’ generation have been living with this since Russia detonated their H-bomb.


144 posted on 11/22/2007 9:19:58 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: LifeOrGoods?

No, they will continue to hope that we do to ourselves what they could not do in 50 years of the cold war. They will let us self destruct and destroy ourselves from within and we are doing a damned good, top notched, fantastic job of doing just that. America will not fall to a foreign enemy. We are too strong from that. NO, AMERICA WILL FALL FROM SELF INFLICTED, SELF INFLUENCED, DOING IT TO OURSELVES, JUST AS WE ARE DOING RIGHT THIS DAMNED MINUTE, DAY BY DAY, MINUTE BY MINUTE, WEEK BY WEEK. America is fat, happy, over indulged with self righteous leftists whose main goal in life is to destroy this Republic and build a murdering style soviet state of socialism, as they, they liberal slime of mankind are our leaders and we are suppose to worship THEM. Not our God, but worship them. FAITH is believing in something that you cannot see with your very eyes. If you believe in GOD, then you have FAITH. You have the faith that He is there, that he will deliver us. Only God has that power. Not a mere blood flowing human. But, again, try telling that to a liberal. They believe they were put on the green, enviro wacko world, to lead us. No, Amerika is destroying itself within, one reality show at a time, one pizza at a time, one liar at a time, one cheater, one thief, one adulterer, one slime ball at a time. People of Faith are out numbered. In the end, we win, even if we are the few. Our God will deliver us. While in the end, liberals, leftists, and socialists will burn in hell. Right where they belong.


145 posted on 11/22/2007 9:35:49 AM PST by RetiredArmy (If Marxist's Dimocrat Party & the Fed Gov want my guns, COME AND TRY TO GET THEM!)
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To: Bear_Slayer

From the little I have read, Nostradamus did not even attempt to predict the distant future like his followers believe he was. He was commenting on currents events of his time and the outcomes of those of which had already happened by the time he wrote what he did.

It looks like some zealous people have replaced some of the original wording in his writings to make his look like some amazing prophet, but even then they don’t have their facts straight. Funnier still is the fact that he was pictured with a telescope in a supposed portrait of himself. The telescope had still not been invented in 1566, the year he died.

Thanks. As with most hoaxes, a little time and information proves them to be nonsense.


146 posted on 11/22/2007 9:43:38 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: RetiredArmy
FAITH is believing in something that you cannot see with your very eyes.

Then we can say in a sense that liberals are people of faith, because they don't believe in facts and reality.

God bless.

147 posted on 11/22/2007 9:46:01 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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To: LifeOrGoods?
The valley is still a very small place. Besides the real end war will be nuclear and I expect we will be the last ones standing - unless of course Hillary is President.
148 posted on 11/23/2007 3:52:39 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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To: LifeOrGoods?

What I see is a strengthend and emboldened Iran; a fundamental Islamist region around Basra that is essentially an Iranian colony and which is almost as bad a the Taliban; the remainder of the supposed coaltion (the UK, Italy, Spain, Poland, Japan and now, Australia) heading for the doors; a military that is overcommitted; nearly 4,000 of our finest dead and tens of thousands with life-limiting injuries; the expenditure of at least $1.4 TRILLION, and a dollar that has been rendered near-worthless. If you call THAT sticking my head in the sand over this unnecessary war, I’m quite content to do so. I wish I were wrong; the facts indicate otherwise.


149 posted on 11/24/2007 6:06:51 PM PST by laconic (ence)
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To: laconic
If you call THAT sticking my head in the sand over this unnecessary war, I’m quite content to do so. I wish I were wrong; the facts indicate otherwise.

The least I can say is, I wish we in fact used the Nuclear option this time. It would have saved American lives and dollars.

150 posted on 11/26/2007 10:45:44 AM PST by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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