Kindergarten Children should Dance Naked and Masturbate in Pre-Schools; Norwegian Child Expert

LifeSiteNews ^ | 10/17/07 | Hilary White

[wagglebee]

OSLO, Norway, October 17, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – An Oslo pre-school teacher, backed by child psychologists, has suggested that kindergarten children be encouraged to “express” their sexuality through “sex-play” and games, including dancing naked and masturbating, in pre-school and day-care centres.
 
The English language edition of Norway’s Aftenposten newspaper reports that Pia Friis, the respected operator of an Oslo kindergarten, told an interviewer that children should be able “to look at each other and examine each other's bodies. They can play doctor, play mother and father, dance naked and masturbate”.
 
“But their sexuality must also be socialized, so they are not, for example, allowed to masturbate while sitting and eating. Nor can they be allowed to pressure other children into doing things they don't want to,” Friis said.
 
Friis also faulted some staff of day-care centres and kindergartens who, she said, might react negatively to children expressing their sexuality. “When the personnel are uncertain, that passes on to the children, and it can be negative.”
 
Friis’ opinion was backed up by Norwegian child psychologist Thore Langfeldt, who said, “Children must learn about sexuality, otherwise things can go very wrong.”
 
“Children can't object to something they don't know about, and children can more easily and readily report assaults if they already are aware of their own sexuality.”
 
In the US earlier this year, a report published by the American Psychological Association (APA) warned against the early sexualizing of young girls, especially through media and marketing. The APA task force found that teachers and parents are among the influences in the over-sexualization of children and that girls often end by seeing themselves as sexual objects. The results can include increased risks of depression, eating disorders and low self-esteem.
 
Joseph D’Agostino of the Population Research Institute (PRI) wrote that the APA report did not go far enough in exploring the effects of radical feminism on teaching children to see themselves sexually. In a PRI weekly briefing, he wrote, “The politically correct view is that the sexualization of girls and feminism are opposing forces, but in fact they have gone hand-in-hand.” He wrote that feminism teaches girls that chastity is a form of “oppression”. 
 
“They have taught that there are no natural limits to sexuality,” he wrote. “Based on feminist principles, why shouldn’t little girls sexualize themselves? And why shouldn’t adult men and women view them as sexual if there is no such thing as unnatural sexuality?”
 
Others have made the connection with early sexualizing of children with child sexual abuse. Cathy Wing, of Media-Awareness, a non-profit educational organization for media literacy said that sexually explicit advertising or products aimed at pre-teens naturally leads to adults treating children as sexual beings ready for exploitation. Wing told the Toronto Sun, “Perhaps when we surround ourselves with sexualized images of young people we shouldn't be surprised that a segment of the society think that it is okay to have sex with children,”
 
The suggestion by Norwegian child experts follows a larger trend in many countries of the European Union to raise the level of sexual activity in every area of the culture.
 
In May 2006, the German government was blasted by dozens of human rights groups and experts in human trafficking for building new brothels and “sex huts” in time to service fans at the World Cup soccer tournament in Berlin. It was estimated that 40,000 women were added, with official approval, to the existing 400,000 who already plied Germany’s legal prostitution or “sex-trade”.
 
In July 2007, the German Ministry for Family Affairs was accused of “state-encouraged incest” when it issued a pair of education booklets encouraging parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. One of the booklets recommended that fathers should “devote attention” to the sexual organs of young daughters and another suggested teaching children the movements of copulation.
 
German Government Blasted for Facilitating Massive Prostitution at World Cup in Berlin
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/may/06050108.html
 
German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jul/07073008.html

[Bergen]

I have posted this reply before, but please, let me do it once more.

“I am glad to inform you that the vast majority of us Norwegians are just as shocked as you over this horrible suggestion.

Just like their parents, our children should remember the childhood as a time of innocence, not sexual depravity.

Please excuse my bad English.”

[null and void]

Your English and your sentiments are just fine.

[dennisw]

By default Americans like Norway. I’ve been to Denmark and Sweden for 4 months. We just feel bad when we hear about such bad things in Europe and you think the same way about USA

[Froufrou]

“...it isn’t possible to live with insanity and give it a place of acceptance and prominence along with things like honor, honesty, loyalty and the like. IOWs the beneficial ideals of rational thought and action. That reduces all concepts of behavior to the chaos of indefinable meaninglessness.”

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That is correct. And it is gratifying to have a place to see that there are others in the country who think the same and that we aren’t the moonbats. Funny. Moonbats always point at us and acuse us of what THEY do. Strategery! ;o)

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you FrouFrou for bringing this post to my attention.

It is good to know that there are others out there that have a good grasp of what is taking place, and have rational reactions to it.

TigersEye, what you bring to my mind is the fact that CompassionateConservative is never a place to govern from. We should expect compassion where appropriate, but it is somewhat juvenile to define yourself in those terms when so many actions depend on you being taken seriously as an adult leader of the free world.

When Iran looks at us, do you think compassionate puts terror in their hearts? Do the democrats view our leader with apprehension? IMO, they have the idea they can hit him with paint balls all day long day after day, and all he’ll do is make some bland statement at some point.

No. We must let the other side know, that when they do some of the things they do, that the punishment is going to be swift and set them back decades for having pushed us too far.

Instead I see us being pushed back decades ever closer to the abyss. When I say pushed back decades, I don’t mean to 1960 standards. I mean that we are pushed so far back, that it will take us decades just to get to the 1960s again, if ever.

I personally believe that we will never get back there, but that should be our goal. We should never settle to live this life when common decency is there for the taking.

To heck with leftists and their brave new world. It’s time to push back. It’s time to push them off the cliff. The time for compassion is over, unless finally at last the compassion for the true victims of the left and has been taking place.

[SteamShovel]

Damn us for where we are headed, and think of the caveman as far superior to what we may be choosing to become as humanity.

You have a point there.

Cavemen behaved the way they did because they did not have a choice.

Modern man is behaving like he is because he has chosen to do so. The choices modern men are making are becoming increasingly unbelievable.

[DoughtyOne]

They sure are. I appreciate your understanding about what I was trying to say. There was essentially nothing wrong with your statement. I just wanted to approach it in a different manner. Take care.

[plan2succeed.org]

Wait until the American Library Association grabs on to this!

[plan2succeed.org]

Wait until the American Library Association grabs on to this!

[TigersEye]

Thank you both for your replies and your encouragement.

Everyone wants to talk about compassion these days. The left has assumed the position of being the ones in possession of compassion for about three decades now. Instead of dealing with the false premises that notion rests upon now we have mushy Republicans like Pres. Bush trying to simply wrest the claim away without defining any difference to base it on. I found the following article to be a clear statement of what both liberal and "conservative" compassion really is.

Idiot Compassion

In light of this way of viewing "liberal" compassion, which is to say that it is not compassion at all, strength and aggressive action cannot be said to be in and of themselves uncompassionate. That was just my point in saying that those who promote chaos through moral relativism, progressives et al, should not expect to continue to be treated civilly in the name of compassion.

As a Buddhist that is not what I have been taught about compassion. In the beginning, when my views were first being formed, I was often told "sometimes the most compassionate thing you can do for someone is beat the living crap out of them."

Ronald Reagan's "peace through strength" policy is a shining example of that kind of wrathful compassion. The Soviet Union did crumble economically under his forceful confrontation. But he prevented them from continuing to commit themselves to endless wars and possibly a nuclear holocaust. Here in the west we normally view Reagan's actions from the POV of what he did for us. But it can't be denied that he clearly saved them from actions that would have resulted in even greater suffering and a much worse demise than economic collapse.

So when I use the phrase "compassionate" conservative I put the word in quotes to indicate the false premise underlying it. When you say that we need to "let the other side know, that when they do some of the things they do, that the punishment is going to be swift" I fully agree to this extent; we do need to stand strong and draw a line in the sand. As for "punishment" I see that more as a need to apply true compassion, wrathful compassion, rather than as a punitive measure in the sense of vengeance.

I realize that that is a bit of a semantic nitpicking. But I don't accept the idea that a strong defense is somehow uncompassionate towards an aggressor. That is part of the false premise the left tries to move conservatives into in order to immobilize us. Preventing someone from committing harmful aggressions on others is as much an act of compassion towards them as it is a selfish act of defense.

We are dangerously close to the point where the left is going to force us to accept violence from them or fight back. So I would say the time for true compassion has come. It is time to kick the living crap out the left, metaphorically, before we all descend into a fight where no one is concerned with what is best for all of us.

[Erasmus]

What are they going to do with the pills? Isn’t sex with a minor against the law?

Actually they're just aspirins, but they have to hold them in a certain way.

[DoughtyOne]

I agree with your comments. I do want to emphasise my call for retribution though.

What I want to see happen is the left try to push through some bad action, and our response be to not only block that action but to roll back the parameters surrounding that subject, so that their interests are not only blocked on the advance, but they lose ground they had already achieved.

In the end, this is also compassionate to those who are affected adversely by the bad policies.

You see, the dems push and push and push until they finally get their way like a petulant 13 year old kid. My point is to send them to their room until they can get with the program. Our citizens deserve as much.

[TigersEye]

We’re right on the same page.

[DoughtyOne]

Of course we are. You take care.

[ProudNorseman]

Thanks for trying, but apparently most here are only too happy to condemn us all over the sick utterings of one feeeble-minded nobody, or two if you count the psychologist.

Well, I don't care what they think. Gullet ska hem! ;-)

[Smokin' Joe]

I think these characters should have millstones tied about their necks and be cast into the sea. But, hey, I can’t take credit for the idea.

[Hunton Peck]

There once was a woman named Jocelyn...

[Froufrou]

“...apply true compassion, wrathful compassion, rather than as a punitive measure in the sense of vengeance.”

Well, now, I cannot honestly put aside any temptation to knock the living crap out of some ignorant liberal, should s/he so compel me...

[Froufrou]

We should never settle to live this life when common decency is there for the taking.

BINGO! I have grown up in a world that has been presented to me [and you] as a magician would present his act to an audience. The media does not do what I was taught in Journalism class that it should: tell the who, what, where, when and why. No, siree, not by a long shot.

I frighten myself with what I want to do: spend vacation this year in a survivalist camp. I frighten myself if I don't. I will not live in fear, regardless of the fact that I am a female [and cute, at that] and the fact is that we need to be more self-sufficient and less self-serving...

[leaving for pedicure.../sarc...]

[DoughtyOne]

I think the most important survivalist measure folks could take at this time, would be to do a little self-evaluation and make sure their relationship with God was in order.

As efficient and determined as our government is and may become, I don’t think survivalist measures are going to be as effective as they have been at previous times of trouble.