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Kindergarten Children should Dance Naked and Masturbate in Pre-Schools; Norwegian Child Expert
LifeSiteNews ^ | 10/17/07 | Hilary White

Posted on 10/17/2007 3:16:07 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: metmom

Only geographically, Bush lost in New York by 20 points which is exactly the reason that the fool in the Governors Mansion can foist his brand of liberal lunacy on the red parts of New York, he has the votes.


101 posted on 10/17/2007 5:37:13 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: KarlInOhio
Confused me too...actually it made me laugh at the absurdity and stupidity of the entire thing. So, kids can masturbate and act out sexually any time they want and their parents can be pedophiles, but hey not at the snack table!

To not only allow but encourage such un-socialized behavior and then to worry about snack time....bizarro world.

Also where does this end? If you think about the upside logic then that "there are no natural limits to sexuality" then everyone should be free to act this way, any time they want...as long as they aren't eating, of course!

Where are the liberals and their "for the children" mantra when it really matters, when children are being abused?!
102 posted on 10/17/2007 5:39:29 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: SF Republican

San Francisco is a beautiful area, and does have many redeeming characteristics. Unfortunately for me there are just way too many liberals and pervs there for my tastes. At one time SF was a jewel in CA. IMHO the libs have transformed the city into something that is less desirable for many. God bless you and your family for being able to carve out a niche for yourselves. It is nice to know that there are some conservatives living there.


103 posted on 10/17/2007 5:42:51 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: wagglebee

Hey, It did work for the Vikings.


104 posted on 10/17/2007 5:58:05 PM PDT by 359Henrie (38 million illegals create a big carbon footprint. The real inconvenient truth.)
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To: wagglebee
Everything with these mentally deranged people is sex and death. Sex and death. And the younger, the better.

Do they have nothing better to do? Or think about?

How 'bout a hobby? Needlepoint, fishing, woodworking? Anything constructive?

No, they're wackos, who years ago would've earned a lobotomy by the same professionals who now support their idiotic proposals.

105 posted on 10/17/2007 6:03:20 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: KoRn; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...


106 posted on 10/17/2007 6:27:22 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Be deranged in a consistent manner. Manson was nuts, but at least he was always on message." --dead)
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To: wagglebee

I read the first two lines and my immediate reaction was to find a baseball bat and go looking for this guy.

What’s next? Are they going to start actively recruiting pedophiles to teach the kids?


107 posted on 10/17/2007 6:33:39 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Owl558
Ignorant people slamming others for where they live, or worse, for the actions and politics of OTHER people who live in the same area, like has been done on this thread, is pretty childish.

Bears repeating.

Not all conservatives live in red states or counties or towns.

108 posted on 10/17/2007 7:07:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wagglebee

UK Nightclubs Vs Swedish Nightclubs ... might be something to this.

Look here:
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110 posted on 10/17/2007 7:13:15 PM PDT by ~Peter
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To: Red Badger

nice tag, too true.


111 posted on 10/17/2007 7:46:35 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Also a reason not to move to Europe. (Egads!)


112 posted on 10/17/2007 8:13:15 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: wagglebee
Friis also faulted some staff of day-care centres and kindergartens who, she said, might react negatively to children expressing their sexuality. “When the personnel are uncertain, that passes on to the children, and it can be negative.”

Sounds like the perfect job opportunity for this teacher:

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113 posted on 10/17/2007 11:30:58 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: SF Republican; Responsibility2nd
I'm an SF native and resident as well. Give the other folks a break -- if they've never been here in any capacity other than tourist, they only know of San Francisco what they see on the news and/or The O'Reilly Factor. And there's always plenty of news.
114 posted on 10/17/2007 11:52:17 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (From Slick Willie to Slick Hill'y in Eight Years?!)
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To: tomnbeverly
"Pelosi would be proud to have her grandchildren attend..."

No, I think your wrong. Pelosi is an elitist, she would be mortified if her grandchildren did this, this is for more "common" folk.

She just thinks that other people should be able to do this if they want with their kids, but believe me she would be mortified of the embarrassment this would cause if HER kids ever allowed her grandchildren to do this.

115 posted on 10/18/2007 4:35:45 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Ronin

What’s next? Are they going to start actively recruiting pedophiles to teach the kids?”

A big part of the objective here is to give the homosexuals access to young boys. Homosexuals infiltrated the priesthood and operated quite successfully on the altar boys until the whistles began to blow and they were removed from the church. This of course, is the biggest reason the homosexuals now hate the Catholic church with passion.


116 posted on 10/18/2007 6:06:40 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: SteamShovel; DoughtyOne; wagglebee; TigersEye; LucyT; JamesP81; little jeremiah

I agree with Doughty One. Not only that, but I can imagine some people would justify this behavior based on parts of the Old Testament.

NAMBLA is sickening. I get horrible cookies just from doubting what I was told they are and going to see for myself. Be careful what you google for!


117 posted on 10/18/2007 7:40:16 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: wagglebee
Kindergarten Children should Dance Naked and Masturbate in Pre-Schools; Norwegian Child Expert

"Norwegian child experts should shut the hell up and keep their perversions to themselves." --An American expert in common sense.
118 posted on 10/18/2007 8:06:41 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: wagglebee

“Kindergarten Children should Dance Naked and Masturbate in Pre-Schools; Norwegian Child Expert”

I think this is suppossed to get a segment on The Glenn Beck Show tonight
(Thursday).


119 posted on 10/18/2007 8:28:10 AM PDT by VOA
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To: L.N. Smithee
Many people have compared S.F. and Sodom in the Bible. I am reasonably sure that Lot and his family loved Sodom. It was a beautiful city. I do know they didn’t want to leave and had to be forced.
120 posted on 10/18/2007 8:28:24 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: wagglebee
Nor can they be allowed to pressure other children into doing things they don't want to,” Friis said.

Uh, it is the teacher who is pressuring ALL kids into doing this, regardless of their "wants".

Example:
1. Boy "A" gets naked and rubs his penis in front of Boy "B"
2. Boy "B" tells the other boy to stop doing that
3. Teacher tells Boy "B" that it is fine and dandy for Boy "A" to be doing it
4. Boy "B" feels ashamed, and pressured into acting like Boy "A" as a result of teacher's pressure

121 posted on 10/18/2007 8:30:45 AM PDT by montag813
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To: wagglebee

this is by far the sickest thing I’ve read ever! truly we are in the end of times.


122 posted on 10/18/2007 8:32:57 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: Froufrou; DoughtyOne
I agree with Doughty One.

I agree with that. Post #51 is the best on the thread.

Doughty One - #51

123 posted on 10/18/2007 11:51:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: null and void; KarlInOhio; DoughtyOne; TigersEye; Badeye

You know, if people would just STOP and THINK.

What has happened [I’ll use Roe vs. Wade as for instance] is that we’ve put persons in key positions of trust who should NEVER have been there.

In turn, these key persons have sold us a bill of goods, but because they are key people we think they have our best interests at heart. Gives a whole new meaning to this:

QUOTE: “Oh, ye of little faith!” We have put too much faith in government and not enough in our Maker!


124 posted on 10/18/2007 11:56:54 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Abathar
No, I think your wrong. Pelosi is an elitist, she would be mortified if her grandchildren did this, this is for more "common" folk.

I don't know about that. Pelosi apparently didn't bat a bug-eyed eyelash when, on national TV, Whoopi said she would like to "do" Nancy and her husband. I wonder what her grandchildren thought about that?

125 posted on 10/18/2007 12:01:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: TigersEye; Abathar

Wasn’t that just the crudest? But that’s Whoopi! Crude to the core!


126 posted on 10/18/2007 12:06:59 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: wagglebee

AIN’T THE NWO GRAND?

Step right up!

Get your society shredding values and behaviors here.

Let us demean, trash, obliterate, mangle, kill all dear to you . . . and lastly you . . .

that 200,000,000 global population limite you know.

/s . . . sort of


127 posted on 10/18/2007 12:07:07 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; wagglebee

I had to tell you I like your tagline! Jesus is good. All the time.


128 posted on 10/18/2007 12:11:45 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Thanks thanks.


129 posted on 10/18/2007 12:13:38 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Froufrou; Quix
Yep, there's a few Protestants around here who have a clue! /MAJOR sarcasm off

:-)

130 posted on 10/18/2007 12:14:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Froufrou
As I told my 80 year old mother, who is actually pretty sharp but can't quite absorb such in-your-face-obscenity, "Whoopi talks like a pig and lives like a pig." There really isn't any more to it than that.

What is truly incredible is that it passes for 'tea time chat' on national TV and "the Most Powerful Woman in America" just sits there with a vacant stare and a plastic smile on her face while some degenerate pervert suggests a menage a trois between said degenerate, the Speaker of the House and the Speaker's husband (who is sitting right there as well.)

Perhaps in the next Democrat debate the candidates can answer questions about their fantasy Hollywood date and what perversion they would most like to engage in with them. Ask them if they would tape their Oval Office romps and share them with everybody on Youtube since we didn't have that advantage during the Clinton Orgy Era.

131 posted on 10/18/2007 12:41:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: wagglebee

Uhhhhhhhhhh . . .

I think I’ll just let

PRAISE THE LORD!

suffice.

LUB


132 posted on 10/18/2007 12:41:59 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Froufrou; All
My apologies to you and FR if my sense of decorum has disintegrated too far. But it seems this is what our “Hollywood Heroes,” media “guideposts” and “Glorious Leaders” are telling us we need to accept as normal and enlightened behavior.
133 posted on 10/18/2007 12:48:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: TigersEye; Badeye

Quite unnecessary to apologize! I couldn’t possibly agree more!


134 posted on 10/18/2007 12:52:37 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
I appreciate that. I sometimes can't believe what I am saying when simply trying to respond appropriately to the things manifesting before my eyes. But I don't want to sit like a deer in the headlights and just let the insanity keep coming without a peep. Greeting it with an "Oh my, that's a little precocious don't you think?" just isn't going to cut it for me.

I want these communist "progressives" to know that they're crossing a line wherein a "civilized" response can no longer be considered a compassionate response. I also want "compassionate" conservatives to understand that too. If reason doesn't take a strong stand against insanity when a soft approach has failed then at some point reason will hold no sway over anyone.

When faced with unrestrained madness many a moral and ethical person will find it hard to keep their bearings. To put it another way; it isn't possible to live with insanity and give it a place of acceptance and prominence along with things like honor, honesty, loyalty and the like. IOWs the beneficial ideals of rational thought and action. That reduces all concepts of behavior to the chaos of indefinable meaninglessness.

135 posted on 10/18/2007 1:30:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: SteamShovel
We have moved from animal/cave man to organized society. It seems we are now reverting back to animal/cave man.

I know what you mean and I essentially agree as far as it goes.  I do think we are entering something much more sinister though.  We are not cave men.  At this point in human advancement, we have far superior knowledge.  Having that knowledge, we will not become enlightened and grow out of what we seem to be headed into.  No, we have found a way to intellectualize the worst of human characteristics, and seem poised to go down that road.  If we do, it will be a road of no return.  Rationalizing this behavior referencing all that we have witnessed thorughout human history, the pure evils and not rejecting them again, there will be no wholesale rejection of them after this IMO.  No, we are poised to accept this devious nature of man, institutionalize it and herald it as the brave new future.

Damn not the cave man in relation to this.  Damn us for where we are headed, and think of the caveman as far superior to what we may be choosing to become as humanity.  Perhaps inhumanity would be more accurate.

136 posted on 10/18/2007 1:35:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Nervous Tick

I have passed through San Fransico about seven times in my life. I have stayed in town three times. I haven’t gone to the city yet, without being quite content to leave. I don’t see anything charming about the place. And yes, I like to frequent a lot of other places much better.

Honestly, I have no idea what you folks see in that place.


137 posted on 10/18/2007 1:39:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Froufrou

I try to be very careful what I log onto, on the internet. I’d like to know more about what NAMBLA and White racists are up to, but I just won’t visit their sites.

Funny thing though, I wouldn’t be afraid to visit hispanic and black racist sites.


138 posted on 10/18/2007 1:42:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: TigersEye

Thank you.


139 posted on 10/18/2007 2:22:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: Froufrou

Yes we have. And it makes me think about those who don’t even acknowledge Him.


140 posted on 10/18/2007 2:25:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: wagglebee

I have posted this reply before, but please, let me do it once more.

“I am glad to inform you that the vast majority of us Norwegians are just as shocked as you over this horrible suggestion.

Just like their parents, our children should remember the childhood as a time of innocence, not sexual depravity.

Please excuse my bad English.”


141 posted on 10/18/2007 2:34:03 PM PDT by Bergen
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To: Bergen

Your English and your sentiments are just fine.


142 posted on 10/18/2007 2:38:35 PM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: Bergen

By default Americans like Norway. I’ve been to Denmark and Sweden for 4 months. We just feel bad when we hear about such bad things in Europe and you think the same way about USA


143 posted on 10/18/2007 2:57:48 PM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant one who is "selected, not endured" - Nicholas Sarkozy)
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To: TigersEye; DoughtyOne

“...it isn’t possible to live with insanity and give it a place of acceptance and prominence along with things like honor, honesty, loyalty and the like. IOWs the beneficial ideals of rational thought and action. That reduces all concepts of behavior to the chaos of indefinable meaninglessness.”


That is correct. And it is gratifying to have a place to see that there are others in the country who think the same and that we aren’t the moonbats. Funny. Moonbats always point at us and acuse us of what THEY do. Strategery! ;o)


144 posted on 10/18/2007 3:06:17 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: TigersEye; Froufrou
Thank you FrouFrou for bringing this post to my attention.

It is good to know that there are others out there that have a good grasp of what is taking place, and have rational reactions to it.

TigersEye, what you bring to my mind is the fact that CompassionateConservative is never a place to govern from. We should expect compassion where appropriate, but it is somewhat juvenile to define yourself in those terms when so many actions depend on you being taken seriously as an adult leader of the free world.

When Iran looks at us, do you think compassionate puts terror in their hearts? Do the democrats view our leader with apprehension? IMO, they have the idea they can hit him with paint balls all day long day after day, and all he’ll do is make some bland statement at some point.

No. We must let the other side know, that when they do some of the things they do, that the punishment is going to be swift and set them back decades for having pushed us too far.

Instead I see us being pushed back decades ever closer to the abyss. When I say pushed back decades, I don’t mean to 1960 standards. I mean that we are pushed so far back, that it will take us decades just to get to the 1960s again, if ever.

I personally believe that we will never get back there, but that should be our goal. We should never settle to live this life when common decency is there for the taking.

To heck with leftists and their brave new world. It’s time to push back. It’s time to push them off the cliff. The time for compassion is over, unless finally at last the compassion for the true victims of the left and has been taking place.

145 posted on 10/18/2007 3:22:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: DoughtyOne
Damn us for where we are headed, and think of the caveman as far superior to what we may be choosing to become as humanity.

You have a point there.

Cavemen behaved the way they did because they did not have a choice.

Modern man is behaving like he is because he has chosen to do so. The choices modern men are making are becoming increasingly unbelievable.

146 posted on 10/18/2007 3:40:25 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: SteamShovel

They sure are. I appreciate your understanding about what I was trying to say. There was essentially nothing wrong with your statement. I just wanted to approach it in a different manner. Take care.


147 posted on 10/18/2007 3:44:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: wagglebee

Wait until the American Library Association grabs on to this!


148 posted on 10/18/2007 8:29:14 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: wagglebee

Wait until the American Library Association grabs on to this!


149 posted on 10/18/2007 8:29:20 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: DoughtyOne; Froufrou
Thank you both for your replies and your encouragement.

Everyone wants to talk about compassion these days. The left has assumed the position of being the ones in possession of compassion for about three decades now. Instead of dealing with the false premises that notion rests upon now we have mushy Republicans like Pres. Bush trying to simply wrest the claim away without defining any difference to base it on. I found the following article to be a clear statement of what both liberal and "conservative" compassion really is.

Idiot Compassion

In light of this way of viewing "liberal" compassion, which is to say that it is not compassion at all, strength and aggressive action cannot be said to be in and of themselves uncompassionate. That was just my point in saying that those who promote chaos through moral relativism, progressives et al, should not expect to continue to be treated civilly in the name of compassion.

As a Buddhist that is not what I have been taught about compassion. In the beginning, when my views were first being formed, I was often told "sometimes the most compassionate thing you can do for someone is beat the living crap out of them."

Ronald Reagan's "peace through strength" policy is a shining example of that kind of wrathful compassion. The Soviet Union did crumble economically under his forceful confrontation. But he prevented them from continuing to commit themselves to endless wars and possibly a nuclear holocaust. Here in the west we normally view Reagan's actions from the POV of what he did for us. But it can't be denied that he clearly saved them from actions that would have resulted in even greater suffering and a much worse demise than economic collapse.

So when I use the phrase "compassionate" conservative I put the word in quotes to indicate the false premise underlying it. When you say that we need to "let the other side know, that when they do some of the things they do, that the punishment is going to be swift" I fully agree to this extent; we do need to stand strong and draw a line in the sand. As for "punishment" I see that more as a need to apply true compassion, wrathful compassion, rather than as a punitive measure in the sense of vengeance.

I realize that that is a bit of a semantic nitpicking. But I don't accept the idea that a strong defense is somehow uncompassionate towards an aggressor. That is part of the false premise the left tries to move conservatives into in order to immobilize us. Preventing someone from committing harmful aggressions on others is as much an act of compassion towards them as it is a selfish act of defense.

We are dangerously close to the point where the left is going to force us to accept violence from them or fight back. So I would say the time for true compassion has come. It is time to kick the living crap out the left, metaphorically, before we all descend into a fight where no one is concerned with what is best for all of us.

150 posted on 10/18/2007 8:44:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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