Posted on 10/17/2007 3:51:48 PM PDT by neverdem
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) - A gun-control bill that advocates say could have prevented the April killings of 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus has hit a roadblock in the Senate.
The measure would provide money to states to ensure that they properly update the national database of those prohibited to purchase weapons. It has support from both handgun control groups and the National Rifle Association but Democratic Senator Charles Schumer of New York says his colleague Republican Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, has derailed any hopes of quick passage.
Under federal law, people with criminal records and those who have been judged mentally defective are generally barred from purchasing weapons, and their names are placed in a database.
Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 people at Virginia Tech before committing suicide, had been deemed mentally defective and should have been in the database. But Virginia authorities never added Cho's name. He bought two guns in the weeks before the killings.
http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2006/03/breaking-news-angel-out.html
- That’s all I know. I didn’t realize who he was, thanks. If you like the status quo, and if you think the NRA is doing well, then I agree it’s better than nothing. But I’d prefer to support JPFO or GOA.
http://www.redpills.org/?p=418
http://redstradingpost.blogspot.com/2007/10/exaggerations-from-atf-seattle-field.html
Not the folks I want "interpreting" how to enforce this "law"...
Nope. Just don’t like stupidity like the behavior Angel brought down on himself. Had a brother in law with the same problem.
Cop: Does your husband own a gun?
Wife: Sure he does. I’ll go get it for you.
Both wife and husband living in the same house in nasty gun banned Oak Park Illinois. He should have told the cops it was her’s. LOL. By the way, this is after he refused to help overturn the ban and ignored my pleas for assistance.
I have to admit I smiled over the irony. It’s not like Angel could call the legal aid department of the NRA and get some help.
They do it with judicial nominees, IIRC. The Senate has a bunch of weird rules.
New U.S. Senator opposing H.R. 2640, and a detailed rebuttal of the NRA's defense of gun control
P.S. Thanks for helping me find this. I searched coburn hr2640 hold and found that.
I have a friend who has been very prominent in the NRA. I asked my friend why the NRA was supporting this bill, and could only get a “beats the $h!t out of me” response. My friend is totally flabbergasted by the NRA’s stance on this issue, and DOES NOT support it.
Neither do I. I will not be renewing my membership.
JPFO isn’t a lobbying group and they are even failing to turn the tide in the Jewish Community. I used to like them but they should change their tax status and join the fray.
The GOA has a dismal record. They haven’t accomplished anything that I know of and I’ve been asking on this board for years since I’ve been here. This piece of legislation may be their first. I’ll congratulate them if they succeed.
so far it’s like this:
NRA-Castle Doctrine. GOA-0
NRA-End of the Assault Weapons Ban. GOA-0
NRA-CCW laws. GOA-0
So on and so forth.
You sound happy about it. Feel the same way about Red’s getting railroaded as well? After all, most of the registration standards they are accused of violating the NRA approves of...
The “problem” is that currently, you have to be adjudicated by a court to be mentally defective. You know, due process. As I understand it, this bill will allow a “board, commission, or pyschiatrist” to judge you as a mental defective, and then you are toast.
It all depends on where you see the curve of history shaking out. After the betrayal America has seen in the amnesty battle, I don’t think we have much longer. At this point, I don’t write checks to those who compromise, and I don’t vote for people who ride fences. The NRA doesn’t get my membership.
See the link in comment# 44. Any two physicians has been ruled legal in NY by a federal judge, IIRC.
“Any two physicians”, eh? That’s just real good. So a dick doc, and a podiatrist can take away your right to possess firearms. Why, that sounds real american to me.
What’s the story behind his name change?
A podiatrist's scope of practice is limited to the foot. Allopaths, MDs, and osteopaths, DOs, get training in psychiatry during school and the ER during residency. The patient has to admit that he/she wants to commit suicide or murder.
The maniacs always attack places where guns are outlawed.
Seems ominously like this situation. Poor guy takes the 1st Am seriously and openly discusses CCW on campus and now he's ordered to undergo a "mental health evaluation." So does he get grand-fathered in if this thing passes?
"on April 23 Scheffler received a hand-delivered letter from Dean of Students Alan Sickbert that informed him his e-mails were "deemed to be threatening and thus an alleged violation of the Hamline University Judicial Code" and that he was placed on "interim suspension" to be lifted only after he agreed to a psychological evaluation by a licensed mental health professional."
I didn’t know he changed his name. What’s his new one? Prisoner #1234?
(sarc)Yeah.... that sounds like a good idea...(/sarc)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1912813/posts
Not only that, the gunman could have bought a gun illegally.
Anyone who defends the right of insane people to have guns is just going to end up making a fool of himself. Maybe that’s why Schumer is delighted to blame this on Coburn.
But I still don’t believe that Coburn really has the power to stop this.
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