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College Admins: If You Favor Second Amendment Rights, You Must Be Crazy
Townhall.com ^ | October `7, 2007 | Jon Sanders

Posted on 10/17/2007 9:07:36 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20

A Minnesota college student was suspended and ordered to undergo "mental health evaluation" for his response to campuswide e-mails from school officials concerning the Virginia Tech massacre.

The college, Hamline University, a private, liberal-arts institution affiliated with the Methodist Church, has a policy on "Freedom of Expression and Inquiry" that guarantees that Hamline students will be "free to examine and discuss all questions of interest to them and to express opinions publicly or privately."

With such a strong guarantee on students' "freedom from censorship and control" by the university, student Troy Scheffler's e-mail must have been horrifically bad to warrant such a crackdown. Right?

Wrong. What Scheffler did was make a gun-rights case for concealed-carry permits on campus to help ward off potential Cho Seung-Huis before they strike Hamline.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; academia; agenda21; banglist; communistgoals; concealedcarry; diversity; healthypeople2010; hypocricy; ivorytowers; marxism; rtkba; suspension
Look who's calling him nuts!!!!

**BARF**

1 posted on 10/17/2007 9:07:42 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

All our founding fathers and writers of the Constitution were “crazy”? Who would have guessed?


2 posted on 10/17/2007 9:13:42 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

People seem to have forgotten that the shooter killed two people and was not apprhended because the police already had a “prime” suspect detained. He was the boyfriend of the slain girl and he “fit the profile” because (A) he knew the victim, and (B) he owned a gun.


3 posted on 10/17/2007 9:17:33 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

If you don’t support Second Amendment Rights you are crazy!!


4 posted on 10/17/2007 9:20:20 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I guess there’s a lesson here: When a university tells students to exercise their free speech rights, be careful what you say.


5 posted on 10/17/2007 9:23:00 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Dustbunny

I’m old enough to remember when not believing in the 2nd amendment would classify you as “crazy’. How times have changed.


6 posted on 10/17/2007 9:25:58 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

The Methodist Church was on the gun ban wagon 50 years ago. Many of their efforts have not been overt, but they’ve been supporting the hoplophobes big time.


8 posted on 10/17/2007 9:32:21 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Needs to sue them.


9 posted on 10/17/2007 9:33:25 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I dated a stupid liberal (Pardon my French) chienne from that travesty of a college known as “Hamline”. The girl was the dumbest, most patronizing liberal (Again, pardon my French) salope in the world.

Get this, this (Again, pardon my excessive usage of French profanity) salope was such a stupid liberal airhead that she went on a little “I’m better than you kick” by publicly declaring herself to be a “semi-vegetarian” because she cared for the animals. If the woman really cared for the animals, she wouldn’t be a “semi vegetarian”, she would be just a regular vegetarian, like everybody else that cares for animal rights. Shrimp and chickens are animals too.

God I (Francias) basies hate that chienne and I wish she was mort! (Continuing with the French theme).


10 posted on 10/17/2007 9:34:41 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (If More Black People Were Like Ken Hamblin, Jesse Jackson Would Be Broke.)
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To: weegee

Sounds entirely reasonable to me. Most of the time that is exactly what happens - it’s somebody close to the victim, not some random loon on a killing spree. I don’t blame the police for this.

What was inexcusable is forcibly rendering everybody else on campus defenseless. There’s pretty much never a cop around when the s**t hits the fan.


11 posted on 10/17/2007 9:38:44 PM PDT by ROP_RIP
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To: TypeZoNegative
The girl was the dumbest, most patronizing liberal ...

Isn't there a more liberal, common sense need not apply school in the PacNorwest? The one that both Lewinsky and the pancake girl went to?

Hamline probably ranks #2, but the stupidity taught there will do just as much damage.

12 posted on 10/17/2007 9:42:47 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Turret Gunner A20
"Psychiatric abuse is not something one expects in America, but it happens.

No mention of the efforts by Elites who are mandating psych elvals for children. Statists are entrenched within both parties.

13 posted on 10/17/2007 9:43:49 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: TypeZoNegative
Bet she was a hottie, though. Can’t fault you for that.
14 posted on 10/17/2007 9:45:39 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: TypeZoNegative

You should’ve gotten even with the twit... While you were in delicto flagrante with her later that evening, announce in your loudest voice at the point of no return, “I’m a Conservative !” and watch her squirm in horror. Put your pants on, walk out and say, “Put some ice on that, and au revoir, baby. You just been screwed like a Dhimmicrat.” ;-D


15 posted on 10/17/2007 9:55:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Calvin Locke

Evergreen State in Olympia Washington.


16 posted on 10/17/2007 9:58:18 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Calvin Locke

Monica Lewinsky went to Lewis & Clark College, near Portland, OR


17 posted on 10/17/2007 10:02:59 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: ROP_RIP
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18 posted on 10/17/2007 10:12:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

bump


19 posted on 10/17/2007 10:55:28 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Turret Gunner A20
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20 posted on 10/17/2007 11:18:21 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

1984


21 posted on 10/17/2007 11:29:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I seem to recall there’s a little piece of legislation making its way through Congress that would now restrict this individual from owning a gun because he has now been referred to a shrink. The bill has lots of support, too, IIRC.


22 posted on 10/17/2007 11:30:14 PM PDT by dbandit (It's only a conspiracy until they advertise; then it's called policy.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"The Methodist Church was on the gun ban wagon 50 years ago."

All the libs are cut from the same cookie cutter: The United Methodist church is so pro-abortion that they were PRO PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION until 2000; and they STILL have a waiver built in "for the safety of the mother's life". They even sent Bill Clinton congratulations for vetoing the two congressionally passed bans.

23 posted on 10/17/2007 11:31:27 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Draft John Bolton for President! He's pre-vetted by the move-ons.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I guess there’s a lesson here: When a university tells students to exercise their free speech rights, be careful what you say.

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Could you imagine if he was able to recite the 2nd Amendment by memory!!!!! They would have been hiding under desks peeing themselves, this crazed madman about to snap and kill anything that moves. Head for the safe rooms, call 911!

Go scare these people for Halloween, learn the 2nd amendment and recite it robotically like the Terminator.


24 posted on 10/17/2007 11:38:58 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: doc1019
The pathological fear of a certain class of inanimate objects (hoplophobia) isn't a mental illness but thinking that there are bad people in the world and wanting to be prepared in case you meet one is?

Next they will call the fear that you are getting older and wanting to save money against time you are too old to work a mental illness. Saving money or buying insurance in case you get sick could go the same way.

25 posted on 10/18/2007 2:59:02 AM PDT by magslinger (I will not submit.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

The college administrators are crazy. They need a psychological evaluation.


26 posted on 10/18/2007 3:46:36 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Turret Gunner A20
College Admins: If You Favor Second Amendment Rights, You Must Be Crazy

At a number of colleges with speech codes, etc., I am sure one could imagine: If You Favor FIRST Amendment Rights, You Must Be Crazy

27 posted on 10/18/2007 3:48:54 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: magslinger
This parody cartoon perfectly encapsulates the liberal attitude toward guns.


28 posted on 10/18/2007 5:29:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
A Minnesota college student was suspended and ordered to undergo "mental health evaluation"

While there may be a case for some civil charges against the university, and that there's something to be said for standing on principle, I think this student should take a step further. As a consumer of this school, and unless there's some other valid reason for him to want to stay, he ought to "take his business elsewhere," and transfer out.

29 posted on 10/18/2007 5:30:30 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: Travis McGee

(magslinger hangs head)I’m a baaaad person.


30 posted on 10/18/2007 5:52:03 AM PDT by magslinger (I will not submit.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

A response to dissidents in the old Soviet Union was to put the dissidents in mental institutions...

“Everything old is new again!”

Mark


31 posted on 10/18/2007 6:09:11 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Dude. Your suppose to date girls you LIKE!


32 posted on 10/18/2007 6:12:51 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: Calvin Locke

Evergreen State College, or maybe they call it a “university” now.


33 posted on 10/18/2007 6:20:42 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I honestly can’t remember the last time a news story made me physically sick to my stomach...this one did.

As a senior at a state university with a no-weapons policy (we’re lucky the police can carry), the idea that simply questioning a ridiculous policy can get you suspended and referred to a psychiatrist, is absolutely horrifying.


34 posted on 10/18/2007 7:00:39 AM PDT by billakay
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To: Turret Gunner A20

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” ~Thomas Jefferson, 1776

“The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” ~Samuel Adams, 1788


35 posted on 10/18/2007 7:04:28 AM PDT by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: billakay
re: # 34

I honestly can’t remember the last time a news story made me physically sick to my stomach...this one did. >p? Well, keep the barg bag handy while you read this thread and get the full story of just what those freaks did to this kid's life:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1912813/posts

36 posted on 10/18/2007 7:16:16 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (Progressives = Liberals = Reactionaries = Regressives)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

bump for publicity


37 posted on 10/18/2007 7:25:02 AM PDT by VOA
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To: ansel12

To loosely use a line from Raising Arizona, “You want to defend yourself, buy a gun. You want to find a Dunkin Doughnuts, call a cop.”


38 posted on 10/18/2007 7:27:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

If this is the same guy from last weeks thread, I read the emails he sent. He choose his words poorly (if its the same guy) to say the least.


39 posted on 10/18/2007 8:24:31 AM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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To: stevio; fieldmarshaldj; endthematrix

Re: Hot. No. She was a whale, but she was a brabuster type of whale.

Re: Being screwed. Well, when I met her, I was going through a lot of mental anguish because of my learning disability (High Functioning Autism) was hampering me socially. I wasn’t myself. Also, I was dating this girl and I got burnt so she was sort of a rebound case.

Well, during my breakdown, she broke up with me and then afterwards made an anti-dating site about me making fun of my suicide attempt.

Re: I thought I liked her but then I found out how spiteful she is.

Moral of the story: Never go out with a liberal. Behind their nice exterior, they’re really spiteful people.


40 posted on 10/18/2007 7:20:04 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (If More Black People Were Like Ken Hamblin, Jesse Jackson Would Be Broke.)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Ewwww. I retract what I said. Only worth doing if she’s a skinny hottie.


41 posted on 10/18/2007 7:22:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: billakay
As a senior at a state university with a no-weapons policy (we’re lucky the police can carry), the idea that simply questioning a ridiculous policy can get you suspended and referred to a psychiatrist, is absolutely horrifying.

It's called "zero tolerance" and it's been around since the Safe Schools Act (which declared all educational institutions to be "gun-free" school zones.)

Hah.

42 posted on 10/18/2007 7:36:02 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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