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Why Pregnant Women Frighten Me
10-18-07 | 60Gunner

Posted on 10/18/2007 3:50:02 AM PDT by 60Gunner

I had spent the first half of my shift in the "Fast Track" section of the Emergency Department. Cases that are a level 4 and 5 on the 5-point triage scale are sent to Fast Track in order to make room for the more acute cases in the main ER. Cases that rate a 4 or 5 are cuts, sprains, bumps, bruises, series antibiotics, migraines, the mother who brings her six kids in because the ER is her family clinic, and such.

(I am a fervent proponent of "Fast Track." It keeps the patients suffering from non life-threatening ailments from having to wait too long to be seen, and it keeps the really sick people from having to wait for a bed.)

But this night was tough. Every patient I had was a pregnant woman. One had a headache (she was dehydrated, and needed to drink enough water for two instead of only one). Another woman had abdominal cramping but no spotting. (fetal heart tones were reassuring, she was not spotting, and she turned out to have gastroenteritis.) Others were there for coughs, colds, fevers,and so on. In all cases, FHTs were obtained and the 'passengers' were all just fine. But I was ready to be done with pregnant women.

Don't get me wrong. I think that pregnancy is, in itself, an amazing process. But at the same time, even a "normal" pregnancy is fraught with danger to both child and mother. Pregnant women are like the X-planes of the 1950s: awesome things happen inside them, but they can self-destruct in spectacular fashion without warning and without the slightest provocation. Pregnant women scare the crap out of me.

Fast Track closed at Midnight, and I was assigned the Float RN position until 0300.

At about 0100, the medic call came, signified over the intercom system by a soft,sweetly-intoned, bong-bong-bong that belied its urgency. The MD picked up the phone to receive the report. As he took notes, his brow furrowed and he rubbed his forehead with his free hand. He hung up the phone and handed me the Medic Call sheet.

A pregnant 25-tear-old woman had an on-scene BP of 226/116. Heart rate was 52. She complained of severe headache and numbness to her left arm. ETA was 10 minutes. I groaned.

We had taken care of pre-eclamptic patients before. Magnesium is the weapon of choice because it reduces the risk of seizures associated with eclampsia. Lopressor (a beta blocker) is also favored because it protects the heart and lowers blood pressure. But since this woman's heart rate was less than 60, we could not give Lopressor and thus intended to use magnesium as aggressively as possible. She was really rummy from the Mag; her speech was slurred, her limbs were floppy. But her vital signs were great. So we sent her to CT. Since I was the 'float' RN at the time, I went with the patient. She was on a portable monitor so I could continue to see what her body was doing.

She made it through CT like a champ. No evidence of a brain injury was found. As we were exiting the CT control room I said to the CT tech with a sigh, "Taking care of pregnant women scares the crap out of me. It's like being a demolitions expert." The CT tech said a heartfelt "Amen!" We carefully transferred the woman from the CT table to the stretcher for the trip back to her room. I looked up to reach for the oxygen tubing, and then looked down at her.

At that moment, she seized.

I rolled her onto her left side and barked to the CT tech, "Get the doctor NOW!" The other tech in the room frantically stuck a Yankauer wand onto the end of some suction tubing and handed the wand to me. I suctioned the secretions out of her mouth to keep her airway clear and waited the thousand years it seemed to take for the MD to get there. He finally arrived, breathless, and asked, "How long has she been seizing?"

"About a minute," I replied. The seizure was just beginning to abate.

"Let's get her back to the room now."

We pushed her back into the exam room (which was only thirty feet away from CT) while keeping her on her left side. The seizure had stopped by the time we got her back on the full monitor. She then entered the post-ictal phase and became combative. She swung, punched, kicked, and screamed gibberish.

"Give her 1mg of Ativan. Ramp up the Magnesium to 4 grams per hour. Keep her in soft restraints. I don't want to lose that IV, and I don't want to intubate her. Get her back on the fetal monitor," the MD said as he left the room.

We followed the orders. The patient was hemodynamically stable soon thereafter, and the Ativan helped settle her down. But the problem was not solved yet. Her passenger was in grave danger, and she was not out of the woods yet, either.

The on-call OB-GYN came in the room and said, "Get her ready to transfer to the University. I've already signed the orders." I set about getting the paperwork ready while the patient's primary nurse continued direct care. Within the hour, the patient was on her way to the other hospital.

We heard the next day that the patient underwent an emergency cesarean section. The baby was in very bad shape and not likely to make it. The mom had a massive stroke during the procedure and was also not likely to survive. It was her first pregnancy.


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1 posted on 10/18/2007 3:50:06 AM PDT by 60Gunner
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To: MaryFromMichigan; SunnyUsa; bad company; RobFromGa; doodlelady; Slings and Arrows; NonValueAdded; ..

ER Nursing Stories Ping!


2 posted on 10/18/2007 3:51:06 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: running with scissors and playing with sharp objects- ain't America great?.)
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To: 60Gunner
Match this posting with the one that immediately follows it. Now you're really scared...
3 posted on 10/18/2007 3:53:02 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: 60Gunner

I want happy stories, damn it.


4 posted on 10/18/2007 3:54:26 AM PDT by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: gridlock

Yeah. In Britain, 60Gunner could just have said “Sorry Lady, we’re full”.

(disclaimer: I am British)


5 posted on 10/18/2007 3:57:45 AM PDT by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: 60Gunner

Love your stories, but Damn!! That one hurts.


6 posted on 10/18/2007 4:02:45 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 60Gunner
Every patient I had was a pregnant woman.

Uh huh, and how many of those were ILLEGAL aliens wanting to have their anchor babies.

I'm just sayin.

7 posted on 10/18/2007 4:07:44 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: 60Gunner
"We heard the next day that the patient underwent an emergency cesarean section. The baby was in very bad shape and not likely to make it. The mom had a massive stroke during the procedure and was also not likely to survive. It was her first pregnancy."

Wow, that's truly tragic. My wife is a RN in the OBGYN department at our only local hospital. She often tells me similar stories, but most of the time they have happier endings. I'm sure she would agree with your assessment of taking care of pregnant women being like working with demolitions. Recently she came home late and nerved out. She had a women in labor who was at 6CM and within 15 minutes the patient was fully dilated with the baby literally coming out. The doctor wasn't even in the hospital at the time and she had to deliver it herself. She had read about and heard stories of women in labor doing such things, but she hadn't witnessed such a thing while working.

8 posted on 10/18/2007 4:18:52 AM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: 60Gunner
a). Your account reads and flows very fluidly. Very easy to follow. Great writing.

b). Hopefully both the baby and parent survive without disability. Even if improbable, there is still hope that the two of them will make it through.

9 posted on 10/18/2007 4:21:54 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: 60Gunner

Thank you for the story and I pray mother and baby make it. Having gone through a troubled pregnancy, I can say from my end, thank you for what you do. It’s a gift that lasts for every lifetime in the family.


10 posted on 10/18/2007 4:30:15 AM PDT by Varda
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To: 60Gunner

Very sad.


11 posted on 10/18/2007 4:34:10 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 60Gunner

This brings to mind the stories of child birth in the sixteenth century. Back then women were at more risk from child birth than men were from being killed in combat during wars. The best example is Phillip II of Spain, the Spanish king who directed the Armada against England. Although a reasonably humane man in his dealings with his wives, he lost nearly all of them due to child birth and related complications. The horrible white, male, racist, sexist, homophobic, greedy doctors of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries changed nearly all of that, making child birth an ordinarily safe experience. However, terrible things still happen, as shown by this story.


12 posted on 10/18/2007 4:53:17 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: 60Gunner

Awful story. So sad to see it turn out that way :(


13 posted on 10/18/2007 4:54:04 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: 60Gunner

How sad. How very sad.


14 posted on 10/18/2007 4:59:43 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ShadowDancer

The Golden Motorcycle and the Kiss of Light

A little later, we were all in a prayer meeting. I had a couple of visions, sat back and I told the Lord, “You know, Lord, you owe me a chariot ride.” (I was thinking back to the episode at the dinner table earlier.)

All of a sudden, I had a shock because right in front of me was a golden motorcycle. On the side of the gas tank was a picture of an eagle. The motorcycle was vibrating as if the engine was running. The Lord Jesus laughed, and said, “Hop on.” Now if you know me at all, you will know that I am definitely NOT a motorcycle person, but I leaped on the bike. The next moment, this golden motorcycle took off and did some loops, then I became aware that I was holding onto Jesus, as I had my arms around Him.

Then we began to skim across different islands—Jamaica, Solomon Islands, West Indies, Malta, Azores, Fiji, Hawaiian Islands, Caribbean Islands, Greek Islands, etc., and all kinds of islands. Jesus was happy and He was laughing. He said, “I am going to kiss the islands.” This kiss was light, affectionate and joyful. We touched down in Fiji, and then I landed on my back somehow in Australia. I was then lying on the floor, laughing.

The “lightness” of God is powerful—it disarms the enemy. The Holy Spirit’s joy is a victory laugh. God looks at His enemies and laughs at them and has them in derision. One of the greatest spiritual warfare weapons we have is the spirit of laughter, that’s why religious spirits get mad when they hear it.

The kiss was also a sign of recognition in the early Church. In Romans 16:16, “Greet one another with a Holy kiss” was a sign of God’s love and also of recognition of a brother or a sister in the Lord. Jesus commissioned the disciples and washed their feet, it was also a recognition of one who was sent. “As the Father has sent Me, I also send you,” Jesus said in John 20:21.

In the dictionary, kiss is defined as: the token of greeting, love, affection and reverence, also associated with gentleness.

So people of the Islands—He is going to kiss you, He is going to touch you. This touch is joy and deliverance from heavy burdens. It is affection and revelation of the goodness of God. It is light and it is full of grace and favor. It is honey and oil and perfume.


15 posted on 10/18/2007 5:00:58 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

“What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail”

If you are serious and not kidding, this is simply an admonition to avoid the pagan practice of eating blood. “The life is in the blood” (Lev. 17:10)

Pagans belived eating blood would enhance their lives. But the second reason is the blood is given in payment for sin. That’s why it wasn’t to be eaten instead.


16 posted on 10/18/2007 5:01:01 AM PDT by RoadTest (The LORD shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in)
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To: 60Gunner

Crikey, you write well! I was on the edge of my seat reading all that, glued. I could picture it precisely as you described the scene — some of the technical bits I had to imagine — but whoa! That was riveting prose.

Well written! Goodonya!


17 posted on 10/18/2007 5:03:34 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: gridlock

Ahem... picture the 3 little old ladies, belly up to the bar, lifting the bun and saying....

WHERE’S THE BOOK??!!!

Come on, 60gunner, you just gotta get all these stories into one package and sell it here on FR....

And let us know if baby and/or mamma make it... sad story.


18 posted on 10/18/2007 5:05:23 AM PDT by sidetracked (www.givemebackmyrights.com)
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To: 60Gunner

<>< Must read


19 posted on 10/18/2007 5:22:50 AM PDT by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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To: 60Gunner

How’s that book coming? You’re going to make a lot of money when you finish it—you’re a splendid writer.


20 posted on 10/18/2007 5:35:21 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: 60Gunner

Sounds like a rough night! Does it help at all to remember that you only see the pregnant women with problems? Most are healthy.


21 posted on 10/18/2007 5:43:53 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: KoRn
. . . been there, done that (the rapid labor and delivery, not, thankfully, the seizure and stroke.)

Water broke at 5 (at work), went to the hospital and settled in for a long labor . . . but felt first (mild) contraction at 9, 2nd stage began suddenly and with almost no warning around 10:45 (went from 3 to 10 and +2 in what seemed like 30 seconds), and at 11:00 we had a baby!

Fortunately my OB/GYN was on the floor and actually caught the baby . . . but they had given my nice birthing room to a 3rd time mom on the theory that she'd be out of there before I was ready to go . . . wrong! She was still there when I left. Maternity was full up and overflowing, so I was quickly transferred from the storage closet where they had parked me (no kidding!) to the surgical suite, there were no C-sections that night so people had been "borrowing" stuff out of there all night. No fetal monitor (the nurse had an old Dop-Tone and did her best to chase the heartbeat all around), no stirrups, not even a proper rolling stool for the doc. He sat on a plain wooden chair, I chinned on my dear husband's arms, and we had a little frontier medicine going on. Everyone was joking and laughing and having a very enjoyable time (even me!) No epidural, no nuthin' -- but it was so quick I really didn't need one.

Fortunately absolutely no complications (other than a retained placenta which eventually straightened itself out). My doc is an old hand who has delivered many a baby ad hoc (including one in the back seat of a car in the hospital parking lot), and Baby is now in college and 19 y.o.

So there's a happy ending for you.

22 posted on 10/18/2007 5:47:00 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: 60Gunner
What the heck happened? Was the stroke due to the eclampsia? I had mild pre-eclampsia in the later stages of pregnancy, but it never went critical.

And I concur, you need to go ahead, find a publisher and get the book done. You have a ready-made market here from all the folks who have been reading installments.

23 posted on 10/18/2007 5:52:48 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: 60Gunner
This happened to me back in August. Seizure, emergency section, the whole works. I didn't stroke out, and the baby was a five-pounder, despite being born at 33 weeks.

I don't remember any of it. However, we had a good outcome -- I spent a week in, and the new sprog spent a month in the NICU.

Thanks for filling in the blanks.

24 posted on 10/18/2007 5:55:02 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Malacoda
Mrs Magslinger wasn't in any great danger, but our oldest was 5 lbs at 35 weeks and born by emergency c section because of the umbilicus around her neck.

She is now a senior in college. I thought you might like to know.

25 posted on 10/18/2007 6:25:33 AM PDT by magslinger (I will not submit.)
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To: 60Gunner

Thanks 60Gunner for the story. I know it is a sad one, (and those are the ones that probably stick with you,) but there are so many more that have a great outcome!

My daughter, (25 weeks pregnant) grandaughter, husband and I were halfway across the country, returning from a wedding, when my daughter began to hemmorage. We went straight to the hospital, and within an hour were transferred to a better hospital about 25 miles away.

Daughter G spent a week in ICU, and they talked about keeping her there until she delivered! Eventually though she was transferred over 700 miles by ambulance to get her home and on bed rest.

The care my daughter got was wonderful, and we managed to keep the squirt inside until he was fully baked. He turns 9 on Saturday.


26 posted on 10/18/2007 6:31:33 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: 60Gunner
Oh my gosh, how sad! When I was pregnant with my 3 month old, I was being monitored closely for pre-eclampsia. (My BP was borderline, bloodwork showed some issues, I guess) and I was so scared I'd have to have the baby at 32 weeks.

I'm so sad for her family and this mom and baby. You're right, things can go bad so fast during a pregnancy and no one sees it coming.

27 posted on 10/18/2007 6:52:28 AM PDT by arizonarachel (Our miracle is finally here! Check my profile to see a pic!)
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To: 60Gunner

bump


28 posted on 10/18/2007 7:29:14 AM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz can't foresee even the clearest consequences to their actions...)
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To: 60Gunner

Sad story, but thanks for it.

I sure hope you’re working on a book!


29 posted on 10/18/2007 7:53:52 AM PDT by upchuck (Hildabeaste as Prez... unimaginable, devastating misery! She will redefine "How bad can it get?")
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To: 60Gunner
“Pregnant women scare the crap out of me. “

Word!

We had an expectant mom who decided, because the father was in the Navy & out to sea, to stay with her mother. After all, all three of her prior babys had been ‘difficult’.

Problem was, mom lived on a ranch so 40 miles outside of Ely, NV. Ely had a expanded clinic at the time, no real ICU capability - normal procedure was to stabilaze bad pt, then Life Flight to SLC.

We got the call (Nellis AFB Hospital) that the pt needed transport, incoming bad wx (monster snowstorm) prevented helo transport to Hill AFB.

The drive up, while long, was uneventful - the RN and EMTs enjoyed naps and a card game in back. When we hit town, the snow was just starting....

The drive back became real fun when the pt went into labor and her BP spiked. We had good coms back to the hospital, and applied aggressive treatment - but the last 75 miles were interesting. Mom going sour in the back and us trying to outrun the snowstorm. Visibility got sketchy at times, but cleared when we hit the valley.

Once in hospital, pt stabilized and we wound up with a new squidette and a healthy mom. We did ask that *next time*, she stay someplace with a full service hospital.

That country living ain’t for me..... at least as an EMT!

30 posted on 10/18/2007 8:29:39 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: 60Gunner

I know they scare the hell out of you. Me too. How can something so natural and normal be so terrifying.

I was working a diabetic unit...Had a teen come in for last trimester fine tuning of her blood sugars so she could have as safe a delivery as possible..She was 8 months.

2 days earlier she went to the OB...Fetal heart tones were fine.

I listened and nothing...I listened again...I called OB ...please someone with experienced ears come up....She listened...Nothing.

First pregnancy..Fetal demise...


31 posted on 10/18/2007 9:02:32 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: magslinger

Oh, I appreciate it. She’s home now, but still has apnea/bradycardia issues. I don’t thinknI’ll sleep well until she’s over a year old.


32 posted on 10/18/2007 9:31:00 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Malacoda

You will sleep better, but well? I’ll let you know when that happens for me.


33 posted on 10/18/2007 9:39:16 AM PDT by magslinger (I will not submit.)
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To: 60Gunner
Sad.

I love reading your stories. I hope that you are protecting yourself in any way necessary in case you want to publish them later.

34 posted on 10/18/2007 11:44:49 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: 60Gunner

Beautiful — but very sad — story. You definitely should get published.


35 posted on 10/18/2007 3:20:23 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: 60Gunner
Excellent delivery, even if a sad story.

Keep 'em coming!

36 posted on 10/18/2007 8:27:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 60Gunner
But this night was tough.

One night? That's nothing compared to the next 18 years of support. Then comes college...

37 posted on 10/18/2007 8:33:04 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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To: 60Gunner

How sad. : (


38 posted on 10/18/2007 10:22:07 PM PDT by conservative cat
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