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A Marine's flag, in ashes
The Oregonian ^ | 10/18/2007 | Julie Sullivan

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:01:55 AM PDT by mojito

Flags flew the May day they buried Dale Peterson. They lined the streets of Burns, where hundreds watched, hands on hearts, as his coffin passed. One flag, in particular, made it to Dale's dad.

Greg Peterson, former sheriff of Harney County, went home to Redmond and hung the flag beside his front door. And there it flew, day and night, for the toddler he carried on his back into the Blue Mountains, for the boy he taught to fish the Malheur River, for the only son he sent to Iraq.

Sunday morning, as Greg Peterson left for church, he found the flag. Someone had torn it down, drenched it in lighter fluid and burned it. Ashes and the charred wooden flagpole lay scattered. "This was personal," he thought.

He walked back inside and called police.

Flags at nine other Redmond homes had also been torched overnight. A video camera at one home captured images of the culprits. On Tuesday, police arrested four teenagers, including three 17-year-old students at Redmond High School where Dale Peterson graduated in 2005.

That night, Greg Peterson sat at a friend's desk in Coos Bay where he traveled this week to train police officers. And in an open letter he began to type:

"I want you to know what that flag meant to me . . ."

"The flag you burned had flown over the United States Capitol. It was one of my son's goals to be a United States Marine. He put a lot of effort into it and graduated top of his class as a combat engineer. He also shot as an expert and his PT (physical training) score was 290. I am very proud of my son but words cannot express the sorrow I feel from his death. Dale, like most men and women in our armed services, had the courage to put his life on the line for our country.

"I ask myself, what courage do you have, and your reason for burning our country's flag?"

As he wrote, his friend, Dennis Canaday, watched, angry. He'd long admired Peterson, who lost his 2000 re-election bid by fewer than 40 votes in part because he refused to campaign. Peterson is now a police training officer for the state.

"What happened to that inner voice that says, 'This guy is grieving, and we should let him be,' " Canaday wondered about the teenagers.

Lance Cpl. Peterson was not an angel, his dad says. But he knew he needed a diploma to get into the Marines. The only boy among three sisters, he worked hard and played hard, trailing behind the father who taught him to fish, hunt and drive a Ford pickup in the open spaces they called "the Last Frontier."

He was 20 and had been in Iraq less than a month when on April 23 his team stopped to investigate a roadside bomb in Anbar province. But another bomb exploded beneath their vehicle, killing Peterson and another Marine.

A day before, the young Peterson e-mailed his dad. The two were at that delicate stage where a man who leaves home and marries -- in this case to fellow Marine Regina Peterson -- begins seeing a parent as a friend.

"I think about him every day," his dad said Wednesday. "I think people pay lip service to our vets and the people who served this country in the military, and it's very frustrating to me."

The teenagers are accused of arson, abuse of venerated objects, reckless burning, reckless endangering, disorderly conduct and criminal mischief, said Redmond Police Capt. Brian McNaughton, but were "highly upset when they found out who the flag belonged to."

"I don't think they really knew what they were doing; they just did a stupid kid thing, not as any protest or against the United States or authority," McNaughton said. "They just went out and did one and thought it was funny and decided to go find some more and keep doing it."

Redmond High Principal Jon Bullock said all were saddened by the negative attention the incident would bring but "more importantly, the family of Dale Peterson is having to deal with not just the loss of a flag, but all the emotions that go with honoring their son." Bullock said he expects that people will come together and heal.

Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., who had given Peterson the original flag, has arranged for a replacement.

But flag, or no, Greg Peterson will get up today and think of his son, who as a student at Redmond High wrote: "When I was growing up . . . I didn't like to be led around and told what to do by my peers. If they were going to do something illegal or damaging to a person's feelings or property, I had the willpower to stand up and leave."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; arson; desecration; flagburning; parenting; usefulidiots; vandalism
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Unbelievable.
1 posted on 10/18/2007 9:01:59 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
"...highly upset when they found out who the flag belonged to."

BTT. They burned the guy's burial flag but hey, they feel real bad about it so I guess it's OK. Maybe the state should pay for counseling to restore their self-esteem.

Anyone who needs a sarcasm tag on that probably doesn't belong here.

2 posted on 10/18/2007 9:09:08 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mojito

Believe it...after all it is the Waste Coast, where liberal (hate America) indoctrination begins while in the womb for many...


3 posted on 10/18/2007 9:09:36 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: mojito
"they just did a stupid kid thing"

Personally, I believe it. These guys don't sound smart enough to make political gestures. Even with the bar set as low as it is nowadays.

Hopefully, the judge will come up with some creative form of punishment. Painting flagpoles at the local VFW post, for instance.

4 posted on 10/18/2007 9:09:48 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

Maybe they could clean the floors at the local USMC recruiter’s office with a toothbrush. Every weekend for a year. And they ought to go to a couple of Marine funerals, maybe a tour of boot camp, a visit to Walter Reed.


5 posted on 10/18/2007 9:13:25 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: mojito
"I don't think they really knew what they were doing; they just did a stupid kid thing, not as any protest or against the United States or authority," McNaughton said. "They just went out and did one and thought it was funny and decided to go find some more and keep doing it."

Bullcrap.

6 posted on 10/18/2007 9:13:30 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BOBWADE; Mrs Zip

ping


7 posted on 10/18/2007 9:14:02 AM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: mojito

Speechless . . .

BTTT


8 posted on 10/18/2007 9:14:47 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: mojito

I vote we bring back public flogging.


9 posted on 10/18/2007 9:15:14 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: wbill
Hopefully, the judge will come up with some creative form of punishment. Painting flagpoles at the local VFW post, for instance.

They should get the old choice from the 1960s. Enlist in the Marines, or go to prison. The Marines have made productive citizens out of more than one delinquent.

10 posted on 10/18/2007 9:15:15 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: NEMDF

Or maybe they they should put fresh flowers on every grave in Arlington.


11 posted on 10/18/2007 9:19:21 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Kathy in Alaska; Fawnn; AZamericonnie; StarCMC; tomkow6; laurenmarlowe; MS.BEHAVIN; Lady Jag; ...
Canteen Ping
12 posted on 10/18/2007 9:19:48 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (I Soar 'cause I can....)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Just damn.


13 posted on 10/18/2007 9:23:23 AM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: mojito

Why isn’t THIS a hate crime?


14 posted on 10/18/2007 9:24:45 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: NEMDF
Great ideas, all.

Heck, 15 minutes with your average, run-of-the-mill drill instructor would be a life changing event for these boys. Perhaps a little size 12 motivation, properly applied....

15 posted on 10/18/2007 9:25:16 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Billthedrill

I think Marine Corps boot camp in lieu of a short prison sentence would be appropriate. Scum bags (parents included)


16 posted on 10/18/2007 9:26:22 AM PDT by SwankyC (Semper Fi C-Btry 1st Bn 11th Marines)
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To: svcw
I vote we bring back public flogging.

This would end most vandalism in a matter of weeks. Flog a few wiseacre kids in public, and word will get around. Do it in every state, every city, every town. Suddenly the little bastages will start to behave.

17 posted on 10/18/2007 9:27:17 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: SwankyC
I think Marine Corps boot camp in lieu of a short prison sentence would be appropriate.

They'd cry.

18 posted on 10/18/2007 9:30:14 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mojito

Thank you for posting. What a great story. Of course the libs dont care that these are real people with feelings. At least this reporter got the story right. I do believe that this wasnt just a prank but kids from leftist households who went out to make a statement. They knew what they were doing and they knew the message that they wanted to send.


19 posted on 10/18/2007 9:32:25 AM PDT by sasafras (All things evil are cloaked in the word diversity)
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To: PAR35
They should get the old choice from the 1960s

I don't think that they do that anymore. More's the pity for it.

Just out of idle curiosity, I wonder how many of these boys come from single-parent homes. If I had pulled a stunt like this and gotten caught, my Dad would have worn his belt out on me.

I did plenty of stupid things when I was a kid. Not this, specifically, but other things that were pretty dumb. Perhaps I'm naive, but I think that - with the proper motivation - these boys aren't lost causes.

Now, if they get a liberal judge who pats them on the head and says "It's OK because George Bush is a Nazi"....then all bets are off.

Restitution to the homeowners is a start. A little sweat equity put in with the local Armed Forces posts might be a better idea.

20 posted on 10/18/2007 9:34:02 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Soaring Feather; mojito; Kathy in Alaska; darkwing104; SandRat; Seadog Bytes; TASMANIANRED; ...

21 posted on 10/18/2007 9:34:38 AM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Lady Jag

Perfect.


22 posted on 10/18/2007 9:37:09 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Billthedrill

And then probably get their asses beat by the tougher recruits. Still appropriate.


23 posted on 10/18/2007 9:38:50 AM PDT by SwankyC (Semper Fi C-Btry 1st Bn 11th Marines)
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To: Soaring Feather; Lady Jag

Bump


24 posted on 10/18/2007 9:39:33 AM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and tshirtcollections.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: sasafras

“I do believe that this wasnt just a prank but kids from leftist households who went out to make a statement. They knew what they were doing and they knew the message that they wanted to send.”

So the police captain who investigated it is a liar?


25 posted on 10/18/2007 9:39:58 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Lady Jag

BTTT


26 posted on 10/18/2007 9:40:28 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: ArrogantBustard

You have inside info that this police captain doesn’t have?

Just curious.


27 posted on 10/18/2007 9:41:02 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: sasafras

I tend to agree with you. The flag is never a target of “random” vandalism. Anyone who burns a flag is making a political statement. These horrid, ignorant kids were going to “show George Bush” or some such nonsense. Only after it was shown to be a brave Marine’s burial flag did they decide to stash their “radical” credentials in the closet.


28 posted on 10/18/2007 9:41:48 AM PDT by mojito
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To: MEG33; All

GoUSA01.jpg

 

GoUSA02


Yep! I passed it on...

GoUSA03.jpg  

I'm sorry, but after hearing they want

to sing OUR National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough!

Nowhere did they sing it in Italian,

Japanese, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German, Portuguese, Greek, French, or any other language because of immigration.

It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it

was written. The news broadcasts even

 gave the translation - not even close.

Sorry if this offends anyone, but this is

MY COUNTRY

  IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY,

SPEAK UP!

I am not against immigration -

just come through like everyone else

Get a sponsor;

have a place to lay your head;

have a job;

pay your taxes;

live by the rules;

 and

LEARN THE LANGUAGE

as ! all other immigrants have in the past

and

GOD BLESS AMERICA!


PART OF THE PROBLEM

Think about this:

If you don't want to share this

for fear of offending someone,

YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

Will we still be the Country of choice

and still be America if we continue

to make the changes forced on us by

people from other countries who came

 to live in America because it is the

Country of Choice?

Think about it...!!!

All we have to say is, when will

Someone do something about

MY RIGHTS?  

We've gone so far the other way,

bent over backwards to not

offend anyone, that I am now

 being offended.

But it seems no one has a problem

with that.


We speak
ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Greek, Polish, Italian, French, or any other language. Therefore,

if you wish to become part of our society,

learn the language!

"In God We Trust"

is our national motto. This is not

some Christian, right wing, political slogan.

We adopted this motto because Christian men

 and women - on Christian principles - founded

 this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls

 of our schools.
 

It is Time for America to Speak up

If you agree - pass this along;

if you don't agree - get out.

 

 

 

 

 

 


29 posted on 10/18/2007 9:43:43 AM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Ancesthntr

“I vote we bring back public flogging.
This would end most vandalism in a matter of weeks. Flog a few wiseacre kids in public, and word will get around. Do it in every state, every city, every town. Suddenly the little bastages will start to behave.”

Seems to work in Singapore!


30 posted on 10/18/2007 9:44:39 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1 - Take no prisoners))
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To: gracesdad
Where I come from, "stupid kid thing[s]" don't include running around the neighbourhood burning folks' American Flags.

Hence, I characterise that "police captain's" comments as bullcrap.

31 posted on 10/18/2007 9:45:08 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

“Believe it...after all it is the Waste Coast, where liberal (hate America) indoctrination begins while in the womb for many...”

IF they even make out of the womb alive.

RTO


32 posted on 10/18/2007 9:47:06 AM PDT by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: SwankyC

“I think Marine Corps boot camp in lieu of a short prison sentence would be appropriate.”

Thanks, but No Thanks. Marines are made of better stuff.

TC


33 posted on 10/18/2007 9:47:57 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: NEMDF
“And they ought to go to a couple of Marine funerals, maybe a tour of boot camp, a visit to Walter Reed.”

I agree with first part of your post. I have a little problem with this part. It should be for two years, and they should have to do it every weekend of that two years. I’d give them a break if they enlist, suspending sentence pending completion of their first enlistment.

WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.)

34 posted on 10/18/2007 9:49:28 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: gracesdad
You are starting to get a real reputation around here as a token liberal. Im not claiming you are but you do seem a little confused.

You asked me, Is the police captain a liar? We live a politically correct world, the PC will say what he believes will bring less heat. What are you trying to infer? do you know him and want to say something. I guess you question nothing and take everything a face value. Good for you I have some land to sell you in case your interested.

35 posted on 10/18/2007 9:50:34 AM PDT by sasafras (All things evil are cloaked in the word diversity)
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To: Lady Jag

I like the saying...


36 posted on 10/18/2007 9:51:38 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Grassroots Conservatism at its finest...VOTE DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: ArrogantBustard; gracesdad

Gracesdad, I believe you are wrong, at best. Are you saying that burning NINE American flags is just a mistake?
This is the result of the Stalinist teacher’s union. The thugs were only “highly upset” that they got caught.


37 posted on 10/18/2007 9:51:38 AM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: NEMDF

“... And they ought to go to a couple of Marine funerals, maybe a tour of boot camp, ...”

Never mind a “tour” — their punishment should be forced enlistment, per court order, into the Marines; but then again, these efeminate spoiled-rotten wiesels probably would not survive the first week at 99 Palms.

RTO


38 posted on 10/18/2007 9:51:51 AM PDT by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: Lady Jag; Fawnn

Thanks, Lady Jag, Fawnn, thanks for the bump!


39 posted on 10/18/2007 9:51:58 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (I Soar 'cause I can....)
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To: NEMDF

They’re 17. Make them join the Marines.


40 posted on 10/18/2007 9:53:55 AM PDT by this is my name not yours (Free speech is the escape valve that keeps some people from picking up a rifle.)
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To: Lady Jag

I just adore Maxine...she should be our nations spokesperson!!! LOL


41 posted on 10/18/2007 9:55:40 AM PDT by oldteen
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To: NEMDF

I like your creative sentencing ideas.


42 posted on 10/18/2007 9:57:44 AM PDT by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: Lady Jag

They are beneath contempt.


43 posted on 10/18/2007 9:57:56 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Lady Jag

Lady Jag, would you be so kind as to give me the link to your wonderful saying?


44 posted on 10/18/2007 9:59:16 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Grassroots Conservatism at its finest...VOTE DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: sasafras

Teenagers running around in the dark burning flags as a protest? Most rational people are going to ASSUME it was a teenage prank, so exactly what use is a protest like that unless you tell the world you’re protesting?


45 posted on 10/18/2007 10:01:06 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly
It can be found at http://www.websophist.com/GoUSA.html
46 posted on 10/18/2007 10:01:46 AM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: gracesdad
"You have inside info that this police captain doesn’t have?"

The police captain has a community to live with and enough bad publicity for the immediate future. He has to be PC enough to avoid 'making the situation worse'....none of us has that particular problem and darn few of us think the kids were 'just having fun doing something stupid' or whtever alibi the locals dream up.

See post immeditely following yours for example.

47 posted on 10/18/2007 10:02:29 AM PDT by norton (Go ahead, vote for Hunter, you know you want to.)
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To: gracesdad; ArrogantBustard
"You have inside info that this police captain doesn’t have?

Just curious."

The word "Bullcrap" was, in my opinion, appropriate.

I have a question though. Where were the parents of these kids at day one? Many of us manage to keep our kids in line and out of trouble in spite of attempted government and government school interference. And, along the way, we manage to imbue them with the knowledge that the rights and property of others are not to be violated and that their feelings always deserve consideration.

48 posted on 10/18/2007 10:05:42 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: dynachrome

“Gracesdad, I believe you are wrong, at best. Are you saying that burning NINE American flags is just a mistake?”

Well, yeah, it was a mistake in that they shouldn’t have done it, but, no, I don’t think they unwittingly just sort of mistakenly accidentally set them on fire.

“This is the result of the Stalinist teacher’s union.”

Whatever you say.


49 posted on 10/18/2007 10:06:37 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Billthedrill

BTTT


50 posted on 10/18/2007 10:07:18 AM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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