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Putin attacks US foreign policy, announces new nuclear weapon
Brietbart ^ | Oct 18 03:06 PM

Posted on 10/18/2007 3:57:26 PM PDT by BradtotheBone

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday chastised the United States over its policy in Iraq and Iran, and announced "grandiose" military plans, including development of a new nuclear weapon. Putin, who is to step down at the end of his second term next year, also said he wanted the ruling United Russia party to preserve his policies after December parliamentary elections, confirming that he wants to retain major political influence after leaving office.

In a nationally broadcast link-up with ordinary Russians across the country, Putin called the US intervention in Iraq a "dead end" and called on Washington to set a deadline for the withdrawal of troops.

Putin suggested that Iraq had been invaded because of its oil wealth and assured one caller that energy-rich Russia could not suffer the same fate. To think so, he said, was "political erotica."

The White House quickly rebuffed Putin's comments, insisting there was a "good trend" in Iraq.

The hawkish Russian leader also swiped at Washington's tough stand on Iran's nuclear power programme, saying Moscow's insistence on negotiations was better than "threats, sanctions or even force."

In a video link-up with servicemen at the Plesetsk nuclear missile base, Putin said that Russia would build another nuclear submarine next year and was also planning a "completely new" atomic weapon.

"We have grandiose plans and they are absolutely realistic," Putin said, speaking hours after the military announced the successful test firing of a Topol intercontinental ballistic missile.

Putin's sixth phone-in during eight years in power came in for particular scrutiny for clues to Putin's future political career after December parliamentary and March presidential elections.

Putin, 55, has left the world guessing about what he will do after the March election, in which he is barred by the constitution from seeking a third consecutive term.

The former KGB officer who came to power in 2000 repeated that he will step down, saying "there will be another person here in the Kremlin in 2008."

He confirmed that he would campaign for the United Russia party in the parliamentary election, saying this party's victory would ensure that his policies over the last eight years continued.

"Imagine that people come to power who do not agree with these decisions, it would be easy to reverse them.... It is therefore extremely important that parliament is effective," Putin said.

Putin has previously said he is considering taking up the prime minister's post after leaving the Kremlin, but he appeared to scotch speculation that he wants constitutional changes transfering power from the Kremlin to the government.

He said he was "against cutting the powers of the president of Russia," Interfax said.

On the economy, Putin trumpeted economic growth of 7.7 percent, but conceded that the government was so far unable to control inflation of 8.5 percent and rising beyond "the planned parameters."

There has been a more than doubling of foreign investment, 13.4 percent increase in incomes, and 5.1 percent increase in pensions, he said, while gold and foreign currency reserves are at record levels.

Putin also claimed credit for a slowdown in the country's dramatic population plunge, saying that government benefits to families were having an effect.

Although Putin says he will step down next year, he remains by far the dominant political force in a country where there is almost no outspoken opposition.

Adding to the mystery, no major politician has yet expressed interest in seeking the presidency, while polls indicate the parliamentary election will give Putin's United Russia party an overwhelming majority.

Speculation is mounting that Putin will seek to remain in control even after quitting the presidency. Or he may return to the Kremlin for a third term after a break -- something the constitution does not bar.

Later Thursday Putin was to meet Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in Moscow for talks expected to focus on Iran's Russian-backed nuclear programme.

Putin was in Tehran on Tuesday, the first visit to Iran by a Kremlin leader since World War II.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; nuke; putin; russia; russiannukes; wmd

1 posted on 10/18/2007 3:57:29 PM PDT by BradtotheBone
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To: BradtotheBone

Interesting times.


2 posted on 10/18/2007 4:00:59 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: BradtotheBone
who is to step down at the end of his second term next year...

Sort of true.
3 posted on 10/18/2007 4:07:16 PM PDT by kc8ukw
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To: BradtotheBone
So what was that about the U.S. Congress blocking funding for the development of new nuclear weapons to modernize our force sometime back...?
4 posted on 10/18/2007 4:07:16 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: BradtotheBone

What’s next, Tsar Bomba II?


5 posted on 10/18/2007 4:09:04 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (RIP, Corky, I miss you, little princess!!! (Corky b. 5-12-1989 - d. 9-21-2007))
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
So what was that about the U.S. Congress blocking funding for the development of new nuclear weapons to modernize our force sometime back...?

Was that before or after Bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw the soul of a man he could work with?

6 posted on 10/18/2007 4:11:48 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: BradtotheBone
Putin suggested that Iraq had been invaded because of its oil wealth and assured one caller that energy-rich Russia could not suffer the same fate. To think so, he said, was "political erotica."

Putin is delusional if he thinks we would WANT to invade Russia for it's "riches".

Can you imagine the economic drain that would be?

PUTIN, we want to be partners in freedom. You are the one who wants to be OUR adversary.

7 posted on 10/18/2007 4:13:28 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: redgolum

“Interesting times.”

Indeed they are. I have to wonder if (given the fact that so many of our factories are now closed, our jobs gone overseas, our middle class dwindling, our money loosing value by the day, our military handcuffed by an administration in thrall to TROP and our borders wide open to peons from the south, the new serf class for the super rich international capitalists who seem to call the shots in this country) we have the will or the financial or industrial capacity to take the Russians on again and beat them like we did 20 years ago.

I have never doubted this country until the past couple of years. Now I just don’t know.


8 posted on 10/18/2007 4:15:11 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: BradtotheBone

Putin is insane. The Russian people should take him out as soon as possible.


9 posted on 10/18/2007 4:16:11 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: BradtotheBone
Image hosted by Photobucket.com yes it's the dreaded DOOMSDAYWEAPON... and now there will be a DoomsDayWeapon GAP!!!
10 posted on 10/18/2007 4:23:52 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Dogbert41
Putin is insane. The Russian people should take him out as soon as possible.

Now as a counter, how does one classify Pelosi?

11 posted on 10/18/2007 4:24:18 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: BradtotheBone
Putin was in Tehran on Tuesday, the first visit to Iran by a Kremlin leader since World War II.

Joining the axis of evil?

12 posted on 10/18/2007 4:26:07 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: BradtotheBone
announces new nuclear weapon...

But before putting all those Rubles into new weapons, perhaps they might want to try and get the bugs out of the radar systems they are selling that seem to be all the rage around the world (well, at least in Syria and Iran).

13 posted on 10/18/2007 4:26:27 PM PDT by C210N
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To: BradtotheBone
Putin said that Russia would build another nuclear submarine next year and was also planning a "completely new" atomic weapon.

I have read that nuclear weapon design in the US and Russia is considered to be a very mature science, with little to be improved on other than details.

Got to wonder what "completely new" is all about, or is it just hyperbole about some new delivery system?

14 posted on 10/18/2007 4:35:00 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Kolokotronis; Toddsterpatriot

Todd, could you help me out with the manufacturing gloom and doom in #8...these “we ain’t got no mfg” posts are wearin me out!


15 posted on 10/18/2007 4:36:30 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: BradtotheBone

Cold War 2 has begun. What’s his new ‘atomic’ weapon? The MX missle 2? We should build powerful moon lasers on the moon to vaporize anything down to 2 miles deep. Do ya think they would be mouthing off then if we had this? Nope, I doubt it. Too bad that reality is probably two or three decades away...


16 posted on 10/18/2007 4:39:16 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Democratic controlled Congress: ‘All we can say is, give peace a chance’. They were college kids all holding hands singing it in the late sixties. Now they control the House.


17 posted on 10/18/2007 4:40:49 PM PDT by quant5
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To: BradtotheBone

Putin is trying to do his best to support the Democrats by blaming the Bush Administration for starting a new arms race. Putin is aware that most media outlets will do their best to convey the message in that manner. Putin is hoping for another Carter type administration to try and close the gap between Russia and the U.S.


18 posted on 10/18/2007 4:41:30 PM PDT by Wiggins
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To: BradtotheBone
Putin Pelosi called the US intervention in Iraq a "dead end" and called on Washington to set a deadline for the withdrawal of troops.

Putin Pelosi has previously said (s)he is considering taking up the prime minister's post after leaving the Kremlin, but (s)he appeared to scotch speculation that (s)he wants constitutional changes transfering power from the Kremlin to the government.

"Imagine that people come to power who do not agree with these decisions, it would be easy to reverse them.... It is therefore extremely important that parliament is effective," Putin Pelosi said.

(S)he said (s)he was "against cutting the powers of the president of Russia the USA," Interfax said.

19 posted on 10/18/2007 4:41:39 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: BradtotheBone

Putin what are you thinking? who are you fighting in chechnya? the same muslim terror we are dealing with in iraq and iran!

And Israel is the home to so many russians who still go back and forth to russia. they are threatened by your policies


20 posted on 10/18/2007 4:56:01 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: BradtotheBone
Moscow's insistence on negotiations was better than "threats, sanctions or even force."

Russia should practice what it preaches.

21 posted on 10/18/2007 5:00:53 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: redgolum

Bush should have looked into his soul with a geiger counter.


22 posted on 10/18/2007 5:01:50 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (What you said is exactly what you intended to say.)
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To: sam_paine; Kolokotronis

23 posted on 10/18/2007 5:02:08 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Kolokotronis

WHAT????
Man you need to move out of the northeast.


24 posted on 10/18/2007 5:21:18 PM PDT by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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To: Kolokotronis

We can’t take on Russia alone. And we are alone right now. The EU is to tied to them to do anything, and to be quite frank they would like to see us taken down a notch.

We don’t have the heavy industry to out build them like in the 80’s, and quite frankly they have the resources and money to outspend us.

I fear that we are going into some dark times.


25 posted on 10/18/2007 5:49:51 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
We don’t have the heavy industry to out build them like in the 80’s, and quite frankly they have the resources and money to outspend us.

Their GDP is less than $800 billion.

26 posted on 10/18/2007 6:01:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; redgolum

“Their GDP is less than $800 billion.”

Our State Dept says their GDP in 2006 was $986 billion and goes on to say:

“The Russian economy underwent tremendous stress in the 1990s as it moved from a centrally planned economy to a free market system. Difficulties in implementing fiscal reforms aimed at raising government revenues and a dependence on short-term borrowing to finance budget deficits led to a serious financial crisis in 1998. Lower prices for Russia’s major export earners (oil and minerals) and a loss of investor confidence due to the Asian financial crisis exacerbated financial problems. The result was a rapid and steep decline (60%) in the value of the ruble, flight of foreign investment, delayed payments on sovereign and private debts, a breakdown of commercial transactions through the banking system, and the threat of runaway inflation.

Still, Russia weathered the crisis well. In the 8 years following the financial crisis, GDP growth averaged just under 7% due to a devalued ruble, implementation of key economic reforms (tax, banking, labor and land codes), tight fiscal policy, and favorable commodities prices. Household consumption and fixed capital investments have both grown by about 10 percent per year since 1999 and have replaced net exports as the main drivers of demand growth. Inflation and exchange rates have stabilized due to a prudent fiscal policy (Russia has run a budget surplus since 2003). The government created a stabilization/rainy day fund ($127 billion in mid-2007), and has the third-largest foreign exchange reserves in the world (close to $420 billion in mid-2007) which should shelter it from commodity price shocks.

Russia’s balance of payments moves from strength to strength. The current account balance grew from $58.6 billion in 2004 to $95.3 billion in 2006, almost entirely due to oil price increases. The capital account turned positive in 2006, with net inflow of $6.1 billion. In addition, net private capital flows in 2006 increased significantly to $40.9 billion, compared to an inflow of $0.1 billion in 2005 due to liberalization of the capital account in mid-2006. Foreign direct investment (FDI) flows dramatically improved in 2006 to an estimated $31 billion (inflows totaled $15.4 billion and $14.6 billion in 2004 and 2005, respectively). As of July 1, 2006, the ruble is convertible for both current and capital transactions. Russia prepaid its entire Soviet-era Paris Club debt of $22 billion in late 2006, pushing Russia’s sovereign foreign debt down to $45 billion at the end of 2006, or about 5 percent of GDP. Russia’s total public and private foreign debt at the end of 2006 was $310 billion, or 31 percent of GDP. Such a dramatic reversal to the macroeconomic situation is truly remarkable. Russia currently has a sovereign investment-grade rating from Standard and Poor’s of BBB+.”

IMF says that their GDP this year is growing at more than 7%. How are we doing?


27 posted on 10/18/2007 6:14:52 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: BradtotheBone

Its time for the Russians to get a bloody nose. Best to learn their lesson now, while they are still playing games.


28 posted on 10/18/2007 6:22:37 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: SteamShovel
Russia has enough force and resources to protect its interests both in the territory of the country and in other countries, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced today answering a question during a phone-in that former US secretary of state Madeleine Albright allegedly said that the resources in Siberia belong to Russian on an unjust ground. “I am not acquainted with the statement made by Madeleine Albright, but I know that such ideas occupy minds of some politicians,” Putin said. “Such political erotic can and will make someone satisfied, but will not result in anything. An example of it is the events in Iraq. A small country that cannot protect itself, but has vast resources. They learned there how to shoot, but failed to put things in order. Because fighting against people is an affair that has no prospects.”

Does anybody know, if Madeleine Albright ever made such statements? If so, what was the context?

29 posted on 10/18/2007 6:32:15 PM PDT by tetuhe1898
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To: SampleMan

I hope you aren’t proposing that we get into some kind of skirmish or indirect skirmish with Russia? That’s just plain dumb.


30 posted on 10/18/2007 6:35:54 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Kolokotronis; Mase; 1rudeboy; Fan of Fiat
GDP (official exchange rate): $733.6 billion (2006 est.)

CIA World Factbook

IMF says that their GDP this year is growing at more than 7%.

If we grow at 2% this year, we'll add over $260 billion to GDP. That's about a third of their entire GDP. If they grow at 7%, that's about $50 billion.

How are we doing?

We're doing okay. Some of us need some help with their math. LOL!

31 posted on 10/18/2007 6:38:32 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Was that before or after Bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw the soul of a man he could work with?

Times and people change.

Get over it.

32 posted on 10/18/2007 7:05:04 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“We’re doing okay. Some of us need some help with their math. LOL!”

Indeed, some of us do. You apparently have great faith in the CIA, at least enough to quote partial statistics from their fact book. Why do you have this confidence?


33 posted on 10/18/2007 7:06:31 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
If we grow at 2% this year, we'll add over $260 billion to GDP. That's about a third of their entire GDP. If they grow at 7%, that's about $50 billion.

Thank you for putting things in perspective.

34 posted on 10/18/2007 7:07:33 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Kolokotronis

If you have a better source, please share with the class.


35 posted on 10/18/2007 7:23:40 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Jorge
Thank you for putting things in perspective.

I do what I can to keep the whiners and America bashers honest.

36 posted on 10/18/2007 7:34:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

This is what happens when people like Ted Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, the Hollyweird bunch and their like minded friends diminish our Commander in Chief. BLAME HIM for starting a war instead of the enemy.

This is what happens, when REPUBLICANS do NOTHING to defend him.

They not only diminish him and the Presidency, but our country at large.

It’s dangerous to do so.

It emboldens our enemies and this is what we are left with.

I could go on, but I think you catch my drift.

The catchy little phrase “United we stand, divided we fall”.
Still holds true. And sadly, those who only think of capturing the White House or the Congress for political gain and power, don’t seem to understand that gaining back that which we’ll have lost will take longer than most of us will live.

Not only that, but those same enemies will still want anyone who doesn’t convert to Islam dead. Be they Democrat or Republican. You are either one of them or dead.

He who laughs first, laughs last.


37 posted on 10/18/2007 10:04:31 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, We never waver. We don't support terrorists!)
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To: Jorge

LOL


38 posted on 10/19/2007 4:48:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I hope you aren’t proposing that we get into some kind of skirmish or indirect skirmish with Russia? That’s just plain dumb.

What would be dumb would be to allow Putin to continue to build a fascist state behind a cloak of bluff and anti-Americanism.

There are many ways to call that bluff, only a few would involve direct military might. Russia needs to be put in a position where they will be too worried about losing face to stand up and fluff their feathers like they've been doing.

In matters of military might, Russia should be put in the position of having to choose escalation to military action or the loss of face. They are the weaker power by far and will soon decide that its best not to be continually poking the tiger if doing so only results in their being made to look weak in front of the world.

What's the downside, that they are going to arm our enemies and do everything they can to thwart us in the UN? We're already there.

39 posted on 10/19/2007 6:37:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: tetuhe1898
former US secretary of state Madeleine Albright allegedly said that the resources in Siberia belong to Russian on an unjust ground.

Knowing Albright, she probably did make such a stupid comment at some small gathering. Those people were foreign policy idiots. Quite a lot of the trouble we are dealing with today was brushed under the rug or created by them.

40 posted on 10/20/2007 7:05:50 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: EGPWS

Pelosi doesn’t have the ability to destroy the world with a phone call.


41 posted on 10/26/2007 10:41:43 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: BradtotheBone

Time to go full speed ahead with domestic production of oil, oil shale and several hundred nuke plants. The $90 a barrel oil is making Putin giddy.


42 posted on 10/26/2007 10:52:24 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: Wiggins

Statements to promote instability keep the oil traders jumpy.


43 posted on 10/26/2007 10:53:56 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: SteamShovel
Putin is justified to worry that Russia will be invaded to take over its natural resources.

But its not the Americans, its the Chinese or the Muslims who will do it, gradually and relentlessly. The Chinese and Muslims will just move in, as the Russian population in Siberia and southern Russia gets smaller and smaller as Russian women have fewer and fewer babies and younger women continue to abort their babies so casually, the typical Soviet style of birth control.

Putin is whistling past the graveyard and looking over his shoulder looking at old cold war ghosts while he should be looking at the red dragon and the jihadists lying in wait just ahead...

44 posted on 10/26/2007 11:04:34 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: chilepepper
Putin is whistling past the graveyard and looking over his shoulder looking at old cold war ghosts while he should be looking at the red dragon and the jihadists lying in wait just ahead...

Putin is pushing his weight via fear and a wanton ability to be the leader of the late great USSR.

He's a puny grunt gasping for breath.

45 posted on 10/26/2007 4:52:59 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: doorgunner69

And I hear Congress refused President Bush’s request to make nuclear bombs here. Hmmmmm. I think our Congress should move to Russia.


46 posted on 10/26/2007 5:01:26 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: chilepepper
Putin is justified to worry that Russia will be invaded to take over its natural resources. But its not the Americans, its the Chinese or the Muslims who will do it, gradually and relentlessly.

I agree, he's got the wrong enemy in mind and is actually allying with the one (China) who he should really be worrying about.

Imagine how successful a real American-Russian alliance would be in repelling the Chinese and Muslim extremists...

47 posted on 10/27/2007 6:46:19 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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