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redstate.com ^ | October 19, 2007 | Erick

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:54:37 AM PDT by daylilly

These are my real time thoughts on Fred's speech. I think it is safe to say that his and Romney's are the most important for this crowd to hear)

He came in to the strains of Johnny Cash's "I've Been Every Where."

Jerri, Fred, and the family. The crowd went wild.

Then he starts speaking. He begins with a seemingly distracted aside about his daughter not wanting to get off stage. People laugh. But then he revs up.

It's his usual folksy style. Now here is the interesting thing about Fred. As of now, he really hasn't put out a lot of x point plans where x is some number 4 or higher. He's instead put out a list of principles, but his campaign has not really talked about them.

Right now, though, Fred is delving in. He's talking federalism and why it's a good idea and why it's important. He throws in some God references too. The crowd applauds.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: abortion; election; electionpresident; elections; federalism; firstprinciples; fred; fredthompson; gop; prolife; religion; republicans; socialconservatives; thompson; valuesvoters
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These are a blogger's comments on Fred's speech. Another freeper was also there.

This is linked from fred09.com

http://www.blogsforfredthompson.com/reaction-freds-speech-values-voters-summit

1 posted on 10/19/2007 10:54:38 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: jellybean; Politicalmom; Clara Lou; perfect_rovian_storm; Reagan Man; ejonesie22; b9

FYI


2 posted on 10/19/2007 10:55:59 AM PDT by daylilly
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4 posted on 10/19/2007 11:01:28 AM PDT by jellybean (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=dailyfread Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Nonstatist

If you like Fred you like his speeches. If you don’t like him you don’t like his speeches. Simple as that.


5 posted on 10/19/2007 11:02:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: daylilly

Other comments here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1913577/posts


6 posted on 10/19/2007 11:03:15 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Nonstatist

So, it isn’t Fred that is dead, but you? I’ve always been taught that you can’t learn anything if you can’t stay awake.

There has to be a desire there. A lot of people sleep during church, and don’t get anything out of it. I do not believe the preacher is there to entertain but to teach and not with rah rah stuff. It isn’t his fault if people sleep, it is those who sleep and don’t want to stay awake or aren’t prepared to do so.

If I misunderstood you, I apologize, but when you reference a cartoon, everyone gets something different out of it.


7 posted on 10/19/2007 11:03:20 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: brothers4thID

Thank you for your comments, and for posting them here. I have trouble remembering your screenname when I want to post something to you. Your comments are always memorable.


8 posted on 10/19/2007 11:04:48 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: jellybean

Wait till he picks up momentum. It will be like a locomotive... just get out of the way!


9 posted on 10/19/2007 11:05:02 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: daylilly

And thanks for all the hard work you do!


10 posted on 10/19/2007 11:06:26 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: jellybean
Speech video at Redstate
12 posted on 10/19/2007 11:08:29 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: Nonstatist

It is the content I care about not the delivery. If that is what you want watch Judge Judy.


13 posted on 10/19/2007 11:10:37 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Nonstatist

That’s a real photo taken of one of the lesser known admin monitors during the last fundraiser.


14 posted on 10/19/2007 11:15:42 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: RockinRight
"If you like Fred you like his speeches. If you don’t like him you don’t like his speeches. Simple as that."

Wow....profound.

About which candidate, Democrat or Republican, is that statement not applicable?

15 posted on 10/19/2007 11:22:46 AM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: Nonstatist

” if other Republicans didnt agree with me, he wouldnt be doing so poorly everywhere.”


Yet he is doing better than your candidate, in fact he is ahead of all candidates, except Rudy.


16 posted on 10/19/2007 11:24:30 AM PDT by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets.)
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To: kevkrom

I don’t know if it’s my computer or the video but it skips a lot.


17 posted on 10/19/2007 11:25:23 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: daylilly
"He throws in some God references too."

I take it writing wasn't the authors original gig? It's as if GOD was just a mere after thought. Throw in some God references and appease the Christians? Just state your points and leave it alone if that is your level of sincerity. With friends like this author Fred won't need any enemies.

18 posted on 10/19/2007 11:30:45 AM PDT by WildcatClan (DUNCAN HUNTER - The only candidate that can beat Hillary!)
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To: kevkrom; jellybean; brothers4thID; b9

They posted a link to this thread on brietbart.com! Woohoo!


19 posted on 10/19/2007 11:31:45 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: WildcatClan
I take it writing wasn't the authors original gig?

It's real-time blogging. He's trying to take notes as he's listening -- don't expect Shakespeare.

20 posted on 10/19/2007 11:33:09 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: SMARTY
Wait till he picks up momentum. It will be like a locomotive... just get out of the way!

Yep. Any day now. It's a comin'. Here it comes. Look out, watch his blitzkrieg. Like a locomotive. (c'mon Fred, work with me here...)

21 posted on 10/19/2007 11:35:54 AM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: Nonstatist
He just seems more dead than alive to me, and if other Republicans didnt agree with me, he wouldnt be doing so poorly everywhere.

I guess that 2nd in the Rasmussen polls since a few months back is "poorly." What's better, Romney's 3rd or 4th (and not a close 3rd or 4th)? Huckabee's 8% (his peak)? Hunter's 2%? Brownback's 0%?

Just asking.

22 posted on 10/19/2007 11:41:14 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: daylilly

I neglected to post a link to this on redstate:

http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/fred_delivers


23 posted on 10/19/2007 11:42:20 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: traditional1

None. That’s exactly my point.

If you already like someone you’re likely to like what they do.

IOW Fred won’t win or lose many supporters due to a speech. Neither will any other candidate. That was my entire point.


24 posted on 10/19/2007 11:43:46 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: LexBaird
Yep. Any day now. It's a comin'. Here it comes. Look out, watch his blitzkrieg. Like a locomotive. (c'mon Fred, work with me here...)

It will take a bit of time - frankly, no one has broken from the pack. However, as the 3rd tier candidates begin to drop out (as Brownback did yesterday), most of their support will likely go toward Fred (they are more conservative than Rudy, McCain is running out of money and will likely drop out before Iowa, and Romney isn't conservative except on taxes). THAT is when the Big Mo will start working in Fred's favor. But, it will take until early next year to really see it.

25 posted on 10/19/2007 11:44:57 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: LexBaird

I read comments like yours, then a day or two later someone comes up with a link and I can hear what he said for myself. Posts like yours are never accurate, for what I believe and think and want.

I really like his speeches, and I don’t like northeast politicians when they speak. They don’t talk like real people.

Fred uses illustrations that I can appreciate and understand [like see it in the rear view mirror, kick the can down the road,....] and I love the substance of what he says. He says important things calmly and lets them sink in. He’s the best to my midwestern ears.


26 posted on 10/19/2007 11:46:36 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: RockinRight
"That was my entire point."

Well, you sure made your POINT!

LOL

I believe this 2-year campign has been wasted because those who have not got a horse in the race, or are not even at the track yet, are the deciding factor.

Getting in the starting gate 2 years before the fans are in the stands is a waste. We've had MSM-for-Hildabeast-campaign-mode going on since the 1990's, and you know how boring that is....

27 posted on 10/19/2007 11:51:06 AM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: traditional1

“If you like Fred you like his speeches. If you don’t like him you don’t like his speeches. Simple as that.”

“Wow....profound. About which candidate, Democrat or Republican, is that statement not applicable?”

I think people who like Fred like stating tautologies.


28 posted on 10/19/2007 11:59:04 AM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: daylilly

Thanks for the ping, daylilly.

Someone linked to comments of this speech on another thread, where they spoke of what Fred says he will do the first hour in office. Do you know what that was?

The speech link is too choppy to understand.

Thank you.


29 posted on 10/19/2007 12:38:46 PM PDT by b9 (~ simply Fred ~)
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To: b9
they spoke of what Fred says he will do the first hour in office. Do you know what that was?

I don;t have the exact quote, but it's to the effect of "close the Oval Office doors, get down on my knees, and pray for the wisdom to do what is right... and the strength to carry it out."

30 posted on 10/19/2007 12:42:06 PM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: kevkrom

Thanks so much, kevkrom.


31 posted on 10/19/2007 12:43:29 PM PDT by b9 (~ simply Fred ~)
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To: daylilly

Watch Fred’s entire speech here:

http://www.c-span.org/VideoArchives.asp?z1=&PopupMenu_Name=Politics/Elections&CatCodePairs=Issue,PE;

Click on Values Voters Summit, Morning Session

and move the slider to 2:08:00

or watch the entire 3+ hours of the morning session.


32 posted on 10/19/2007 1:03:15 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("I'm not going to dance to anybody's tune." - Fred Thompson)
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To: Nonstatist

“He just seems more dead than alive to me, and if other Republicans didnt agree with me, he wouldnt be doing so poorly everywhere. His cancer has sucked the life out of him, IMO.”

He’s been in remission for years. And 2nd place is “doing poorly”?


33 posted on 10/19/2007 1:03:19 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Nonstatist

Poorly in your mind is second in polling usually near 20% in the polls? Yeah, I can see how he’s this great failure.

there are Republicans supporting a guy as Liberal as Hillary, he’s coming in first in the polls. Why should I care what “some” Republicans think about Thompson as a consequence? most of the attacks i see focus on him being “lazy”, or old or having cancer..piddling stuff I expect from democrats.

Anyway, both the right and left have been savagely attacking Thompson and whatever drop he took he’s recovering and whatever leap Rudy took is dwindling according to Rass. meanwhile in the best news I’ve heard in some time Thompson is edging very close to being seen as electable as RUDY. since i would wager at least half voting for rudy are doing so because they don’t want Hillary to win, even though Thompson is seen by them as the most conservative candidate, I’m feeling pretty uplifted here. if rudy loses that claim, the conservatives supporting him could very well jump on thompson’s bandwagon.

though it would certainly help if this Values summitt produced a consensus in his favor.


34 posted on 10/19/2007 1:24:18 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (SIGN THE PETITION: http://www.standwithrush.com/)
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To: Nonstatist

Most people do not have the same reaction.


35 posted on 10/19/2007 1:53:14 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian
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To: Nonstatist

Admit it. You’re deliberately being a stinker. Been in 4th grade recently?


36 posted on 10/19/2007 2:22:42 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: traditional1
About which candidate, Democrat or Republican, is that statement not applicable?

Hillary Clinton, for one. She says a lot of things that are incongruent with her positions... things she knows people like to hear. Sometimes she says things I like to hear. But I know that isn't her real position, so I don't like her nearly as much as what she sometimes says.

Meanwhile, the MoveOn crowd dispises some of her speeches. I'm sure there are plenty of winks to them, because they will support her.

37 posted on 10/19/2007 2:28:59 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (A liberal is someone who believes Scooter Libby should be in jail and Bill Clinton should not.)
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To: WOSG
I think people who like Fred like stating tautologies.

If by that, you mean they like consistent, (another word for redundant) statements of obvious truths, I'd have to agree with you. He does show a lack of slipperyness in his positions. Some of the other candidates are much better at muddying up their positions so that it sounds different every time they speak.

38 posted on 10/19/2007 2:35:07 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (A liberal is someone who believes Scooter Libby should be in jail and Bill Clinton should not.)
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To: daylilly

“I don’t like northeast politicians when they speak. They don’t talk like real people.”

So people from the northeast arent real?!? Fugediboutit! :-)


39 posted on 10/19/2007 2:35:41 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: WOSG

““I don’t like northeast politicians when they speak. They don’t talk like real people.”

So people from the northeast arent real?!”

No, they’re real; they just don’t rise to the level of “people.”


40 posted on 10/19/2007 3:58:54 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian
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To: WOSG

I said northeast politicians. They don’t talk like people who have everyday concerns and lives to live. They don’t talk about issues that are important to me. I don’t know everyday people from there, they don’t move to my part of the country. So about all I hear is northeast politicians who talk like they don’t have a clue.


41 posted on 10/19/2007 5:11:24 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: jellybean
THE THOMPSON FAMILY TAKING THE STAGE:

See the rest of my photos at: Fred at FRC Photos Here

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

42 posted on 10/19/2007 5:12:25 PM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: Nonstatist

I think he has one of those styles you either really like or really don’t. Personally, I love it — he seems natural, thoughtful, authentic and accessible. The more hyper Romney and Giuliani styles come off as too desperate, fake and frenetic to be at all inspiring to me. On the flip side of the coin, the folks who prefer a more hyper delivery are bored and completely uninspired by Fred’s way of speaking.

I would think these preferences were a regional thing, but I’m in Pittsburgh and have spent a lot more time in the Northeast and Southwest than the South or Southeast. So, who knows...


43 posted on 10/19/2007 8:02:00 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery

Yep. Fred won’t be doing the “Frenetic Ferret” along with Giuliani and Romney. LOL


44 posted on 10/19/2007 8:06:31 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Politicalmom

LOL ~ that’s what our daughter would call me, a ‘frazzled ferret’ and it always calmed me down and made me laugh.

Not a good trait in a president, either. “;^)


45 posted on 10/19/2007 8:13:21 PM PDT by b9 (~ simply Fred ~)
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To: ellery
I think he has one of those styles you either really like or really don’t

Maybe that's it. OTOH, why is McCain moving back up in the polls? I thought that phony media hog was finished, but at least he looks hungry (although a bit insane). But the fact that he's recovering is related to the weak field, IMO.

46 posted on 10/19/2007 8:13:30 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: ellery

This is a good post ellery, you said this so much better than I did.


47 posted on 10/19/2007 8:16:20 PM PDT by daylilly
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To: Nonstatist

I saw that — ugh! I think most of us here at FR don’t think about McCain and have written him off, but obviously he has some strong support somewhere.

I’m not convinced that it’s a weak field, so much as an unusually diverse, divided one. I think each of our nine(?) candidates has something on which he’s strong, and I think the minority of folks who have chosen a candidate for the most part really like their candidate.

In my view, this primary is illuminating the fact that we in the GOP can’t figure out as a group what issues we believe in (or at least, what the relative importance of GOP issues should be).

We have candidates that range from support of strong, national government to candidates who want to return to a state/federal balance. We have mostly pro-government-intervention candidates, mostly anti-government-intervention ones, and some in-between. We have only one pro-abortion candidate, but he’s leading the polls. We have candidates that range from anti-gun to staunchly pro-gun, and candidates who span the spectrum from basically unrestricted free trade (Giuliani), to free trade with some caveats, to positions on trade that are more characteristic of conservative rust-belt democrats (this isn’t a slam at all; obviously our current trade policies at the very least need some revamping — but it’s relatively new to me to hear from GOP candidates what I’ve heard from Pittsburgh dems over the past 25 years). We even have a candidate who tends to agree with anti-war dems on foreign policy.

I’m having a hard time thinking of one major issue upon which all of our candidates can agree. I honestly can’t remember a GOP field that has been so fragmented, ideologically. I’m hoping this doesn’t mean the Reagan coalition is no more, but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.


48 posted on 10/19/2007 8:35:22 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: daylilly

Aw, thanks! But you said it just fine. :)


49 posted on 10/19/2007 8:36:57 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: Politicalmom

Bwahaha! You just reminded me of the anti-ferret Giuliani tirade — I needed a giggle. I hope you’re kicking off a lovely, restful weekend, Politicalmom! Actually, that goes for all my fellow FReepers, even non-FRed FRiends. :)


50 posted on 10/19/2007 8:41:32 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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