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Park ranger gets seven years for fatal shooting
KOB-TV-Albuquerque, NM ^ | 10/19/07 | KOB TV Staff

Posted on 10/19/2007 7:13:59 PM PDT by elkfersupper

A former ranger at Elephant Butte State Park will spend a year on electronic monitoring for fatally shooting a man who refused to pay his permit fee.

District Attorney Scot Key says that Clyde Woods was sentenced Wednesday in state district court in Truth or Consequences to six years for voluntary manslaughter and given a seventh year for because of a firearm enhancement.

Key says, though, that all but one year was suspended. Woods will spend the remaining year under house arrest with an ankle bracelet and GPS locator.

Woods was charged with shooting Bruce Teschner on the evening of August 23, 2005, at a camp area at Elephant Butte State Park when Teschner refused to pay his camping fee.

No weapons were found on Teschner. Teschner’s family says that he was shot in the back.


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Key says, though, that all but one year was suspended. Woods will spend the remaining year under house arrest with an ankle bracelet and GPS locator.

Tree cop shoots unarmed man in the back, kills him, and gets a year with an ankle bracelet.

Fabulous.

1 posted on 10/19/2007 7:14:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
Yeah, but the dude refused to pay his fee!
2 posted on 10/19/2007 7:18:32 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: elkfersupper

It wouldn’t surprise me if Woods’ lawyer appeals this sentence as being too harsh. Lon Horiuchi shot an unarmed woman off her own porch and he got promoted for it. This ranger probably feels he deserves at least some sort of special commendation, along with complete dismissal of any charges.


3 posted on 10/19/2007 7:19:22 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: elkfersupper
Fabulous.

Mean while, two boarder guards go to jail for ten years for shooting a drug dealer in the ass. Isn't American justice something to be proud of?

4 posted on 10/19/2007 7:20:22 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: elkfersupper
Fabulous.

Mean while, two boarder guards go to jail for ten years for shooting a drug dealer in the ass. Isn't American justice something to be proud of?

5 posted on 10/19/2007 7:20:49 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: elkfersupper

Longer version:

http://abqtrib.com/news/2007/oct/18/new-mexico-park-ranger-gets-five-years-probation-s/


6 posted on 10/19/2007 7:22:43 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: elkfersupper
Tree cop shoots unarmed man in the back, kills him, and gets a year with an ankle bracelet.

Court: "Let that be a lesson to you, pal!"

7 posted on 10/19/2007 7:26:05 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: elkfersupper
...state district court in Truth or Consequences

Um, that's a city?

8 posted on 10/19/2007 7:28:17 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: elkfersupper
It’s stories like this that really rile me. I used to be gung ho for our law enforcement and still have a soft spot for them but when we give guns to Rangers, fish and game officers and petty @$$ holes like that, it gets to be too much. I’ve since met quite a few Law enforcement people with “attitudes” , and when they put that gun on their side, they think they are a god. It’s getting so that harbor patrol, mall dicks and anyone except you and me get to wear a gun and “be somebody”. The only thing more dangerous than that in my opinion is an idiot judge with a black cloak.
9 posted on 10/19/2007 7:29:07 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: org.whodat; elkfersupper; B4Ranch; Carry_Okie

But how many ‘patriots’ are demanding a continuation of Bill Clinton’s expansionary federal control over our national environment? And how many WSJ rinos want to hand it over to the big corporate interests?


10 posted on 10/19/2007 7:29:26 PM PDT by Old 300 (Freedom is not defined by safety [but] the ability of citizens to live without gov't interference-RP)
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To: elkfersupper
Okay, I'm not the smartest one here, but shouldn't the headline read "Park ranger doesn't get seven years for fatal shooting"?
11 posted on 10/19/2007 7:29:39 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Thanks for finding and posting that.

"He also told the court that a more thorough psychological evaluation before Woods was admitted to the police academy might have found him an unsuitable candidate for law enforcement."

Really?

12 posted on 10/19/2007 7:30:18 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
HE WOULDN'T LISTEN YOUR HONOR

13 posted on 10/19/2007 7:30:18 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: elkfersupper

Let this be a lesson!! Pay your damned camping fee!!
BANG!! BANG!!


14 posted on 10/19/2007 7:30:34 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: elkfersupper

Welcome to Amerika.

It used to be government of the people, for the people, and by the people.

Now it’s government against the people, opposed to the people, and basically hates the people.

I’d guess 90% of all gun-toting cops view the people... the citizens... with disgust, like we’re some lower form of life.

How is that any different than Russia?


15 posted on 10/19/2007 7:32:47 PM PDT by gpk9
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To: BibChr
Um, that's a city?

Sort of.

It used to be known as "Hot Springs" until it fell victim to the television culture and met a challenge to rename itself after a TV game show in the 1960's.

16 posted on 10/19/2007 7:33:39 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: gpk9
It used to be government of the people, for the people, and by the people.

This used to be our land, this used to be my land...

17 posted on 10/19/2007 7:34:42 PM PDT by Old 300 ("By the way, when I say cut taxes, I don't mean fiddle with the code." --RP)
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To: Larry Lucido
Okay, I'm not the smartest one here, but shouldn't the headline read "Park ranger doesn't get seven years for fatal shooting"?

That would be correct.

18 posted on 10/19/2007 7:35:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: fish hawk

amen.


19 posted on 10/19/2007 7:37:19 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: traviskicks

Ping.


20 posted on 10/19/2007 7:37:19 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: BibChr
>>Um, that's a city?<<

This town was once called Hot Springs, New Mexico but was renamed Truth or Consequences after the game show in 1950. The story is that Ralph Edwards of the game show announced that he would do the program from the first town that renamed itself after the show. Hot Springs took him up.

21 posted on 10/19/2007 7:37:38 PM PDT by Muleteam1 (We've reached a sad point in American history where we are afraid of our government.)
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To: fish hawk

This is cold blooded murder. How the cop didn’t get charged with 1st degree murder is unbelievable. DA must suck up to cops.

Getting in an argument over a $14 camping fee does not justify pulling a weapon. It’s just a minor citation.

2 shots in the back of the neck? That indicates shooting at close range.

The guy would not have had time to pull a gun and turn around to shoot. The cop couldn’t have put two holes in his neck if he were turning around quickly.

You don’t need witnesses to see bullet holes in the back of the neck. The article makes i sound like there is some sort of uncertainty about where he was shot.

This tree cop is going to pull another one of these a few years down the line.

This is how citizens lose respect for the legal system and cops, whether they are motorcycle cops or park rangers.


22 posted on 10/19/2007 7:37:41 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: BibChr

Bob Barker is the Mayor.


23 posted on 10/19/2007 7:38:27 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: fish hawk
The only thing more dangerous than that in my opinion is an idiot judge with a black cloak.

Amen.

24 posted on 10/19/2007 7:38:46 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: fish hawk

It all goes with the attitude of the badge wearers that they exist to control the civilians.


25 posted on 10/19/2007 7:39:54 PM PDT by wrench
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To: elkfersupper

So couldn’t they have gone with “Newlywed Game” or something?


26 posted on 10/19/2007 7:41:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: wrench
It all goes with the attitude of the badge wearers that they exist to control the civilians.

Noticeably absent is the "there's not enough information here" or the "I'll side with law enforcement until somebody tells us otherwise" crowd.

27 posted on 10/19/2007 7:45:24 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Larry Lucido
So couldn’t they have gone with “Newlywed Game” or something?

Apparently "Jeopardy" would have been a better choice.

28 posted on 10/19/2007 7:47:11 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Old 300

GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA and any trade agreement that they can get is more important than the sovereignty of the US to some people. Why? $imple, fal$e $ecurity.


29 posted on 10/19/2007 7:52:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: elkfersupper

I hate it when an article fails to answer the obvious questions.....was the Ranger promoted?.....and if not, why not?


30 posted on 10/19/2007 7:52:25 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: elkfersupper

I hate it when an article fails to answer the obvious questions.....was the Ranger promoted?.....and if not, why not?


31 posted on 10/19/2007 7:54:32 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: elkfersupper
Elephant Butt State Park?


32 posted on 10/19/2007 7:55:56 PM PDT by GOPmember
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To: Old 300; Travis McGee; ASOC

Tea party time


33 posted on 10/19/2007 7:59:17 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: elkfersupper
I hope the Teschner family sees justice done.
If not, I hope Clyde Woods spends the rest of his life looking over his shoulder,
waiting for that round he never gets to hear.
34 posted on 10/19/2007 8:05:00 PM PDT by trickyricky
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To: elkfersupper
I hope the Teschner family sees justice done.
If not, I hope Clyde Woods spends the rest of his life looking over his shoulder,
waiting for that round he never gets to hear.
35 posted on 10/19/2007 8:06:20 PM PDT by trickyricky
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To: elkfersupper

Yea, but this goes on his PERMANENT RECORD, too! </sarc>


36 posted on 10/19/2007 8:08:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: gpk9

“I’d guess 90% of all gun-toting cops view the people... the citizens... with disgust,”

I agree. They deal with the 0.5% of the scum of the earth and think that the other 99.5% are the same.


37 posted on 10/19/2007 8:11:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: gpk9

“I’d guess 90% of all gun-toting cops view the people... the citizens... with disgust,”

I agree. They deal with the 0.5% that comprise the scum of the earth and think that the other 99.5% are the same.


38 posted on 10/19/2007 8:12:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: fish hawk
"anyone except you and me "

What's this you and me stuff, kemo-sabe?

39 posted on 10/19/2007 8:13:07 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Draft John Bolton for President! He's pre-vetted by the move-ons.)
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To: GOPmember

“The largest and most popular lake in New Mexico, Elephant Butte Lake State Park provides a setting for every imaginable water sport. The visitor center offers regional interpretive exhibits. The mild climate of the area makes this park a popular year-round destination.

Warmth and Water
Elephant Butte Reservoir, created by a dam constructed in 1916 across the Rio Grande, is 40 miles long with more than 200 miles of shoreline. Although constructed to provide for irrigation and flood control, the lake is New Mexico’s premier water recreation facility. A wide variety of water sports are available at the lake, with fishing being one of the most popular. The mild climate of the area makes this park a popular year-round destination.”


Put me in the crowd that thinks there is something mighty odd about the reporting. How can you have two holes in the back of the neck of someone who is supposed to be threatening you? ANYONE shooting two shots to the neck under stress is either an outstanding shot, or very close and behind the person.

I’ve not much faith in our justice system, but I find it hard to believe any court would rule that way unless there was a LOT more to the story.


40 posted on 10/19/2007 8:17:29 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: elkfersupper
This is an example of the total breakdown of due process here in Amerika.

Due process would have required that gun-toting psychopath cop to file a complaint in court against the guy, give the guy his day in court to make a defense, and if found guilty the COURT would order whatever punishment was justified.

In this case the gun-toting psychopath cop played judge, jury, and executioner.

It appears that "law enforcement" people are taught nothing about due process these days, yet due process is THE VERY THING that secures every right we have.

When due process breaks down, we basically have no more rights.

When "law enforcement" gets to play judge, jury, and executioner, and gets nothing more than a slap on the wrist, we have no more rights.

What good are rights when they are summarily ignored by "law enforcement" people... and judges?

The very term "law enforcement" reveals the true mindset of government these days. All government cares about anymore is enforcing their laws... against us.

It really is government against the people now.

We are viewed as the enemy.

Here is the dictionary defintion of "psychopath:"

n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.

Does that not describe the attitude of most gun-toting "law enforcement" people these days?

... who apparently have no qualms about gunning down a citizen... over something as trifling as a $14 fee?

When laws become more important than people, liberty is dead, rights are dead, and freedom is dead.

The simple definition of liberty is "freedom from government oppression" or if you prefer "freedom from government tyranny."

How are the attitude and actions of that cop any different from the attitude and actions of British troops in the colonies?

Did we not fight a revolutionary war with Britian over this very same stuff?
41 posted on 10/19/2007 8:18:09 PM PDT by gpk9
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To: B4Ranch

One set of laws for the lords, another for the peasants.


42 posted on 10/19/2007 8:24:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: elkfersupper; 2nd amendment mama; B4Ranch; BagCamAddict; BCR #226; Beagle8U; bentfeather; ...

And these thugs worry about private citizens carrying?


43 posted on 10/19/2007 8:28:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rogue yam
Yeah, but the dude refused to pay his fee!

Pay your taxes or die!

Best regards,

44 posted on 10/19/2007 8:33:35 PM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: elkfersupper; rogue yam; AlmaKing; fish hawk; Brad from Tennessee
I don't think this guy got shot just for refusing to pay the fee. From the link posted at #6 by Brad from Tennessee:

the August 2005 death of Bruce Teschner, 58. Teschner - who according to testimony was drunk and had a history of mental illness - refused to pay a $14-a-night camping fee and refused to leave the park.

The brother of the deceased said he "was obviously self-medicating with alcohol" at the time of his death. The ranger says he shot when he thought he saw Tescher reaching for a weapon.

This is not a case of a normal, peaceful citizen refusing to pay a $14 fee and promptly getting shot dead for that refusal. This is a case of a belligerent drunk resisting arrest and a law enforcement officer who was too quick to assume the worst (though if I knew exactly what happened, I might end up cutting the ranger even more slack than that). It's not clear to me what time of day/night this happened, how many other people were on the scene (I gather few if any), or what physical movement the deceased may have been engaging in (possibly in dimlight) that may have led the officer to decide to shoot while the target was facing him only to have the target quickly turn around, or to decide to shoot when he mistakenly thought the target was facing him, etc. Once you've made the decision to shoot someone, and raised the gun with your finger on the trigger, you're not necessarily going to be able to continue re-evaluating the quickly changing scenario without losing your opportunity for a clean double tap.

If I was an ordinary citizen and some belligerent drunk out in the woods in the middle of the night came at me following a verbal conflict -- even unarmed -- and I shot him, I wouldn't expect FReepers to be hollering about how inexcusable my actions were and how I ought to be locked up for many years. If we're having trouble recruiting high quality law enforcement personnel, part of the reason is that we insist on giving the criminals more rights than the law enforcement officers, and the law enforcement officers fewer rights than we 2A-respecting conservatives assert belong to every citizen, and this isn't a very attractive proposition to a young adult choosing a career.

45 posted on 10/19/2007 8:37:23 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Bonaparte

Yeah, where is ol’ Lon Whore-Iuchi these days?

Witness protection program, flipping burgers somewhere?
Hopefully?

Or maybe a leading postger on MoreOn.Org?


46 posted on 10/19/2007 8:39:34 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Bonaparte

Yeah, where is ol’ Lon Whore-Iuchi these days?

Witness protection program, flipping burgers somewhere?
Hopefully?

Or maybe a leading poster on MoreOn.Org?


47 posted on 10/19/2007 8:39:34 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Bonaparte
Lon Horiuchi shot an unarmed woman off her own porch

Actually she was inside the house, holding an Assault Baby.

48 posted on 10/19/2007 8:40:52 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: BibChr
Um, that's a city?

Sure is Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.

49 posted on 10/19/2007 8:53:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Right on! When your internal decision tree says (In boldface) pull the trigger - its pretty much a done deal.

The guy was shot twice, I’ll assume that showed some restraint (vs 6 or 15 rounds to the now-dead citizen) - but in any case, I would hate to be put in that situation.

Which, of course, is why I am not tree fuzz.

Final note, we had a pol up here busted for taking a few bucs under the table, he got 5 years in a FedGov pen. Makes ya wonder about what is valued.

50 posted on 10/19/2007 8:57:13 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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