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To: Jim Robinson
Mr. Robinson,

I must dissent. Although the Republican party has strayed far from conservative principals, it is still to be preferred to the Democrat party (which itself has now dropped all pretense of Americanism and has come out of the closet as a full fledged Marxist organization).

I have long voted for any Republican over any Democrat in every election. There have been some major disappointments — the most salient of which is Arnold Schwarzenegger. But conservatives have no choice other than to stay in the political process and vote for smaller government and yes, judges who more accurately reflect the values of conservative Americans.

Permitting democrats to take elected offices will not protect any of the unborn. It can only serve to make things worse.

Respectfully,
Ben

24 posted on 10/20/2007 2:23:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I won’t be voting for any abortionist. Period. If the Republican party abandons the fight for Life & Liberty then it has abandoned me. As Ronald Reagan said, I did not leave the party, it left me.


26 posted on 10/20/2007 2:26:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: BenLurkin

Well said. This is why we have primaries but in the end, if the choice is dificult, I’d hope we’d have a great turnout. I can’t tolerate the thought that folks would stay home or skip the Presidential race.


32 posted on 10/20/2007 2:31:05 PM PDT by Bogeygolfer
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To: BenLurkin
Permitting democrats to take elected offices will not protect any of the unborn. It can only serve to make things worse.

While your argument seems to be well reasoned, I will take exception:

If one allows the Republican Party to win with a Pro-choice candidate, it will effectively remove the Pro-Life plank from the platform. It is probable that abortion will never be revisited as a party issue ever again- ergo, Pro-life will have no champion.

If the Republicans will not defend Pro-Life, as it is Pro_life's only defender (politically), it is a virtual acceptance of abortion into our society.

One must also look to the moral fiber of our party and our country. If we cannot be trusted to defend the weakest and most vulnerable of our own society, then what right have we to defend anything?

68 posted on 10/20/2007 2:45:29 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Vote for FrudyMcRomson -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: BenLurkin
First we have George Bush and the last Republican congress establish the GOP as the party of big spenders. Now we are asked to support a New York liberal, abortion supporter, gay rights advocate, cross dresser as the party nominee should he get it. Maybe we can get someone that is anti-military next and complete the transition to Dem-lite. Maybe you are satisfied with the direction of the party but I do not vote for liberals no matter what letter is behind their names.
69 posted on 10/20/2007 2:45:42 PM PDT by gscc
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To: BenLurkin

“Permitting democrats to take elected offices will not protect any of the unborn. It can only serve to make things worse.”

Are you asking people for whom abortion is one of the greatest crimes imaginable to hang up their conscience and vote for it anyway? :o


101 posted on 10/20/2007 3:08:38 PM PDT by COgamer
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To: BenLurkin

Ben you and I have had our differences, but Schwarzenegger wasn’t/isn’t one of them. The problem many of us have is that we keep sliding down the slippery sloap while supporting Republican candidates. The party has all but abandoned any pretense of Conservatism. And when these RINOs get into office, they actually implement policy that is diametrically opposed to what we stand for.

I can no longer stand by and watch our Republic go down the drain as people I helped elect do things I abhore.

I must support Jim on this one. I will also state that this isn’t the only issue that will prevent me from voting for a Republican this year. If they are not VERY STRONG against illegal immigration, they’ll be looking for new work in January of 2009. I will not vote to hire them.


114 posted on 10/20/2007 3:14:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Old Chinese Proverb (well sorta) say dance with the one who brung ya. Yes we very much like Crinton.)
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To: BenLurkin
They absolutely do have a choice Ben!! Vote pro-life in the Primary..........THAT is what this is, a PRIMARY! If we do not nominate a pro-choice candidate, then we have no problem, now do we?
126 posted on 10/20/2007 3:18:59 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: BenLurkin

If you vote for Rudy, don’t you get that you ARE voting for a Democrat in Republican clothing? :*(


127 posted on 10/20/2007 3:19:10 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: BenLurkin

Voting for a pro-life president to select pro-life SC justices is the least effective way to promote the pro-life cause. In fact, it may be counter productive in that it takes energy from more effective strategies, such as passing pro-life legislation and ultimately a constitutional ammendment. Voting for a pro-life president to sign into law pro-life legislation is effective, but only after pro-life legislation is available to be signed.

Voting for a pro-life president does however give the pro-life voter a feeling that they are doing something for the cause, but that’s all it yields, a feeling.

That the abortion holocaust occurs, and is being done at the behest of the parents of those killed, speaks volumes about how far our civilization has descended into barbarity. A significant change in the souls of Americans must occur before abortion will be seen as the crime it is by enough people to make it illegal. That is the difficult task we have before us. May God help us!


152 posted on 10/20/2007 3:26:46 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: BenLurkin

Lets see how Hillary protects the unborn.
You dont betray the ones that “brung ya to the dance” and get away with it. If its Guliani vs. the Beast..Im for Guliani.


170 posted on 10/20/2007 3:35:56 PM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: BenLurkin

Permitting democrats to take elected offices will not protect any of the unborn. It can only serve to make things worse.

How so?


175 posted on 10/20/2007 3:38:08 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: BenLurkin

Well said, Ben.
I am currently waiting for the birth of my first great-grandchild. There were some in the family whose immediate reaction was to abort because the mother is not married, until I began to raise holy hell about it. My grand-daughter (the mother-to-be) immediately said no but was getting pressure from others because of the unwed status. To that I said, Bullsh*t. We are not going to kill one of our own. Regardless, of her marital status it is still a blessed event. Having said all that, I do not believe that not voting for Rudy or any other candidate on our side will save a single unborn, but it could help a democrat become president. That is much more than merely unacceptable. That would be tragic. If the nominees are Rudy and Hillary, a vote withheld from Rudy is a vote for naked Evil. There are far too many other dangers to protect us from than that one issue. With all due respect, preventing her from being president is also the Lord’s work.


291 posted on 10/20/2007 4:42:36 PM PDT by Perfesser
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To: BenLurkin

I agree fully. Lesser then two evils... I wont sit by and let another KLINTON be president. NEVER NEVER NEVER!


335 posted on 10/20/2007 5:11:03 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: BenLurkin

I’m with you, if you mean Rudy > Hillary/ Obama/ Edwards, yes.

No way I’m voting for Rudy in the primary.


336 posted on 10/20/2007 5:12:00 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: BenLurkin
Permitting democrats to take elected offices will not protect any of the unborn. It can only serve to make things worse......................................................................................................................

What you fail to realize is this....If Rudy was to win the nomination AND the presidency, it would absolutely mean that there would never ever be a pro life Republican nominated ever again.

On top of that...Rudy can`t be trusted! If you listen hard he constantly says that a strict constructionist may not feel that Roe V Wade is bad law.

Lets also remember that he is also for gay marriage and stem cell research.

361 posted on 10/20/2007 5:27:03 PM PDT by thepresidentsbestfriend (God Bless Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, and Huck.)
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To: BenLurkin

Well said. Primaries are the place to settle this. Any Republican is better than Hillery. Shame on those who can’t figure that out.


555 posted on 10/20/2007 9:35:51 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: BenLurkin
Although the Republican party has strayed far from conservative principals, it is still to be preferred to the Democrat party

How much longer will it be proffered if the Republican party keeps giving up on core principals?

564 posted on 10/20/2007 10:18:19 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: BenLurkin

The democrats have their gameplan to win the election and the willing dupes will go right along with it.

Short of someone showing up soon, Rudy is going to be the nominee... and Hitlery and her crowd will covertly back a “pro-life” “conservative” as an independent. The dupes will vote for this person, split the general conservative vote and Hitlery will get in on a plurality, and they can enjoy Hitlery being the president that appoints the next (rather large) group of Supreme Court Justices, ensuring that abortion will never be illegal in their lifetimes.

But hey, they know what they are doing....

They ignore the 11th commandment, are unable to get someone they want through the primary, so they’ll ensure the expanded and continued slaughter of millions, that they claim to be fighting for. (sigh).


1,005 posted on 10/22/2007 6:07:05 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: BenLurkin
Permitting democrats to take elected offices will not protect any of the unborn. It can only serve to make things worse.

Agreed! But let's fight Rudy in the primaries, not just because of abortion, but because I don't see a New York liberal as the best candidate to beat a New York liberal.

1,199 posted on 10/23/2007 8:24:06 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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