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Latino head of RNC resigns (Sen. Mel Martinez, frustration over anti-illegal immigration stance)
LA Times ^ | 10/20/07 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 10/20/2007 6:39:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON -- The Republican Party's highest-ranking Latino official abruptly resigned Friday, marking the latest casualty in the GOP's bitter internal fight over immigration and dealing another setback to President Bush's years-long effort to court Latino voters.

The announcement by Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida that he was quitting as general chairman of the Republican National Committee came after he had expressed frustration over the tenor of the immigration debate within his party. ...

"Mel Martinez was a symbol of the party's outreach to Latinos, and that seems to be disappearing," said Lionel Sosa, a longtime Republican strategist and advisor to GOP presidents since Ronald Reagan. ...

The White House had engineered the ascent of the Cuban-born Martinez over the objections of many conservatives as part of an effort to repair the GOP's image among Latinos. That image suffered when Republican congressional leaders and conservative activists stymied administration-backed measures that would have created a path to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants.

Some GOP strategists say the party's poor performance among Latino voters in 2006 helped ensure Democratic victories across the country. Now, some worry that Martinez's early exit from the RNC foreshadows more trouble in 2008.

Robert de Posada, president of the Republican-leaning Latino Coalition, said Martinez's departure is especially disheartening because it follows the resignation of another high-profile Latino in the GOP: former U.S. Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales.

"The message that it sends is Latinos are not welcome," De Posada said. "The radical conservative base has a temporary victory right now."

The RNC will be run by Mike Duncan, who shared the title of chairman and was responsible for the party's day-to-day operations.

--snip--

Bush issued a brief statement saying that Martinez "represented the best of the Republican Party and its core values."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; deathofthegop; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; laraza; latino; melmartinez; mikeduncan; resignation; resigns; rnc; saynotornc
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U.S. Senator Mel Martinez (R-FL) arrives to attend a Republican rally in Orlando October 20, 2007.
The Republican contenders in the 2008 presidential race will try to woo a tough crowd on Friday and Saturday
at a "Values Voter Summit" of conservative Christians who have yet to rally around a single candidate.
REUTERS/Carlos Barria (UNITED STATES)

1 posted on 10/20/2007 6:39:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
dealing another setback to President Bush's years-long effort to court Latino voters.

So is jorge planning on running for president of Mexico are something, because he sure cannot get their votes in this country.

2 posted on 10/20/2007 6:43:58 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: NormsRevenge

BS. Since when is the Republican party the sole party of the Latinos? And shouldn’t President Bush being doing his dead leval best to repair the base of the party or does he know something we don’t know because he refuses to share what he is doing.

Who asked for that Martinez smuck anyway? Good riddance.


3 posted on 10/20/2007 6:46:50 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: NormsRevenge

4 posted on 10/20/2007 6:48:08 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: NormsRevenge
"The radical conservative base has a temporary victory right now."

Hey, he's talkin' 'bout us! ;)

5 posted on 10/20/2007 6:48:13 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: NormsRevenge

(Robert de Posada, president of the Republican-leaning Latino Coalition, said Martinez’s departure is especially disheartening because it follows the resignation of another high-profile Latino in the GOP: former U.S. Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales.

“The message that it sends is Latinos are not welcome,” De Posada said. “The radical conservative base has a temporary victory right now.” )

What BS is this? Gonzales was forced out by DEMOCRATS!


6 posted on 10/20/2007 6:49:23 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: freekitty
"Who asked for that Martinez smuck anyway? Good riddance."

+1

7 posted on 10/20/2007 6:49:36 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: winner3000

Gonzales was forced out by DEMOCRATS!

worth repeating .. Thx


8 posted on 10/20/2007 6:52:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: monkapotamus

What they smoking I am sorry that Scoody and Shaggy you know what they smoking

Can you say hippie lettuce LOL!


9 posted on 10/20/2007 6:53:35 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: NormsRevenge
Right now I'm blasting some ACDC. It really annoys the Mexican neighbors (my wife and kid are gone).
10 posted on 10/20/2007 6:54:37 PM PDT by Haddit (Hunter is the only conservative out there)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Latino head of RNC resigns (Sen. Mel Martinez, frustration over anti-illegal immigration stance)”

Hasta La Vista Senior Quisling, take McCain with you.


11 posted on 10/20/2007 6:55:20 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://franz.org/quiz.htm)
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To: Grunthor

Outreach to Latinos is important, but illegal immigrants from any country aren’t supposed to vote, right?


12 posted on 10/20/2007 6:57:39 PM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Slow down and get a grip!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves; NormsRevenge
Martinez demonstrated exactly what all other Americans feared ~ that when given the chance to open our borders and drown our culture in that of an impoverished, anti-social, anti-democratic, anti-Protestant part of the world (Latin America, in general), he would take steps to have that happen.

Maybe it's a failure in our efforts to assimilate these guys, or possibly their mothers whisper words of hate to them in the crib ~ I served in the military and worked in the Postal Service with thousands of people of Latin derivation or origin who actually thought of this as a country worth sacrificing for, and preserving. Martinez stands out as being remarkably unlike them; rather more like the people their folks fled.

Martinez should take his hateful words and attitudes with him to some other place. He doesn't like us; we don't need him.

13 posted on 10/20/2007 6:58:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Snapping Turtle

Right


14 posted on 10/20/2007 6:58:23 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://franz.org/quiz.htm)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sure would be interesting to see the statistics on how many AMERICAN CITIZENS who are Latinos agree with the so-called conservative anti-illegal immigration position.


15 posted on 10/20/2007 6:59:19 PM PDT by whipitgood (Let's burn some MEXICAN flags!)
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To: winner3000

Right ~ this little lie about Gonzales is just like the Harry Reid lie about Rush. Gonzales was not kicked out by Republicans ~ he was driven from office by, among others, Chucky Schumer, a man without a bone in his body to say anything of a Republican bone!


16 posted on 10/20/2007 7:00:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: winner3000

I noticed the same thing. De Posada is more concerned with attacking the GOP than the facts.

He should have argued that Gonzales’s resignation under Democrat pressure BALANCES the resignation of Martinez.

Martinez, with help from GWB, has stunned the GOP. It remains to be seen if the GOP can recover by 2008.


17 posted on 10/20/2007 7:01:17 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: NormsRevenge

He quit because the Republicans don’t want illegals in the country?
I say good bye.


18 posted on 10/20/2007 7:02:34 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"The message that it sends is Latinos are not welcome," De Posada said. "The radical conservative base has a temporary victory right now."

Racists unite!

19 posted on 10/20/2007 7:04:06 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: svcw

And adios!


20 posted on 10/20/2007 7:04:58 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: NormsRevenge

Hasta la vista.


21 posted on 10/20/2007 7:05:55 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: winner3000
>> “The message that it sends is Latinos are not welcome,” De Posada said. “The radical conservative base has a temporary victory right now.” ) What BS is this? Gonzales was forced out by DEMOCRATS! <<

Not to mention it was mostly the "radical conservative base" that handed Martinez his primary victory against Bill McCollum. Go back to the 2004 primary and you'll find legions of freepers beating up on McCollum as a "gun-grabbing, darling of the homosexual movement RINO" and hailing Martinez as the "true conservative" in the race.

Useful idiots, obviously, but members of the "conservative base" nonetheless.

22 posted on 10/20/2007 7:07:47 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors win. Senators DON'T. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it)
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To: Rudder

I think most of us would feel the same whether these invaders were Scandanavian, Canadian, Italian or whatever. There’s just a sense of unfairness about people coming over here illegally, thinking that they don’t have to wait in line as our ancestors did, and how others throughout the world must do to this day.

It is NOT a racial thing; it’s more like “how dare they violate our laws”! Most of us love our country and want to live in a law abiding society, and it is heartbreaking to see people invade our land while our idiot politicians pander to these people to garner votes. And Republicans are too stupid to realize the Mexicans will never vote for them en masse anyway, since the entitlements offered by democrats are always going to be better.


23 posted on 10/20/2007 7:12:10 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: NormsRevenge
The announcement by Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida that he was quitting as general chairman of the Republican National Committee came after he had expressed frustration over the tenor of the immigration debate within his party.

Maybe if he though more about America than race he wouldn't have kept butting his head on a brick wall.

24 posted on 10/20/2007 7:12:33 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Joann37
It is NOT a racial thing...

DePosada is trying to make it appear that way.

25 posted on 10/20/2007 7:17:59 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: BillyBoy

It’s that Big Tent thingy gone awry.. for all those that get coaxed and recruited to hoist the rainbow banner, that many more are leaving that no feel that they any longer count for anything more than a ‘sure’ vote.

A jaded electorate is hard to win back. We’ll see what develops next summer, should be interesting.


26 posted on 10/20/2007 7:21:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: winner3000
What BS is this? Gonzales was forced out by DEMOCRATS!

Yeah, but you have to admit you were glad.

27 posted on 10/20/2007 7:22:04 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Joann37

How about the Al Qaeda operatives who have waltzed across our borders?? No one is mentioning them.


28 posted on 10/20/2007 7:22:57 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: NormsRevenge; Borax Queen; yorkie; Liz; processing please hold; potlatch; hedgetrimmer; ...
?"The message that it sends is Latinos are not welcome," De Posada said.

Wrong. The CLEAR message is that ILLEGALS are NOT, and NEVER will be, WELCOME.

29 posted on 10/20/2007 7:24:45 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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should read in #26

many more are leaving that no longer feel


30 posted on 10/20/2007 7:25:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: All

Maybe the RNC can get someone who can work full time to head it up, someone who can mend fences with the base, and start getting in some donations.


31 posted on 10/20/2007 7:27:33 PM PDT by pallis
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Now....to get rid of Grahamnesty!

National Council of La Raza
2007 Capital Award Awardee: Senator Lindsey Graham

The award is based upon the "outstanding support of public policies that are vital to Hispanic Americans." During his acceptance of the award, Graham called Americans who support enforcement of immigration laws "bigots."


May 4, 2007 | Lindsay Graham to La Raza:

“The answer to solving the immigration problem is
to focus on what it means to be an American.
That’s the key to this problem. An American is an idea.
No one group owns being an American. Nobody owns this.
It’s an idea that’s unique to this planet......”

VIDEO | "We’re gonna tell the bigots to shut up”

- Graham says Americans are "bigots" at ~5:46 -


32 posted on 10/20/2007 7:28:21 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: NormsRevenge

Gonzalez and Martinez: two lousy appointments that have caused nothing but trouble. Sure, Gonzalez was forced out by the Dems, but he was an incompetent who never should have been given the job in the first place.

There must be some better qualified Latinos out there. As it is, the whole Latino initiative was badly handled. The worst of it was that the President failed to emphasize the difference between Latino citizens and criminal invaders, something that most Latino Republicans understood. Now it has backfired on the party.


33 posted on 10/20/2007 7:30:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge; AuntB
Bush and associates just don't get it...GOP political hacks insult every person that is a legal immigrant, or proud to be born here, and be an American, who wants to make America a better place. I get 90% of my schooling from this guy...

Looks are deceiving...He's born and raised in Florida, and has the The #1 site in my industry, nothing easy about that!

Bush, you failed American Conservatism 101...It's not about race, color, sex,. It begins with character, let JC Watts clue you in...

Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught."
34 posted on 10/20/2007 7:30:49 PM PDT by Issaquahking (N.H. FNC Debate "What did you do for America today?" Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Rudder
De Posada said. "The radical conservative base has a temporary victory right now."

I guess he's talking about me. This afternoon I got a fundraising call from the state Republican committee and I just replied with three little words (not "I love you")-----"Build the wall!"

35 posted on 10/20/2007 7:33:51 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Not only does Fred Thompson cut taxes, he cuts tax collectors.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Jim Robinson

Again, I’d like to nominate Jim Robinson for RNC Chairman.


36 posted on 10/20/2007 7:34:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: NormsRevenge
Bush and our Republican leaders are breathtakingly stupid! We've been telling them for six years:

Secure the borders first!

I know it's four words and difficult to understand, but with expert help they might figure out that securing the borders opens the doors to guest worker plans and even a little amnesty, but they have to:

Secure the borders first!

37 posted on 10/20/2007 7:37:36 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Mr. Jeeves

No mas cholos, por favor.


38 posted on 10/20/2007 7:41:43 PM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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To: NormsRevenge
What's Spanish for "ass"?

I'm too lazy to press "2."

39 posted on 10/20/2007 7:42:45 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Hunter / Keyes '08)
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To: NormsRevenge
The writing here makes little sense, even for an LA Times writer.

Some GOP strategists say the party's poor performance among Latino voters in 2006 helped ensure Democratic victories across the country.

Latinos have ALWAYS voted predominantly rat, so opening the floodgates and granting amnesty could only have helped the rats, mathematically speaking....

Robert de Posada, president of the Republican-leaning Latino Coalition, said Martinez's departure is especially disheartening because it follows the resignation of another high-profile Latino in the GOP: former U.S. Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales.

Again, Wallsten makes no sense here. It was the rats, not the Republicans, who worked for months to get rid of Gonzales. .

40 posted on 10/20/2007 7:43:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge; All

He was supposed to step down in January.

I suspect he was eased out because of the immigration fiasco.

(don’t forget the Dream Act AMNESTY is still on the table with intended passage before thanksgiving)

Which presidential candidate does this affect?

I suspect it is insider Giuliani.


41 posted on 10/20/2007 7:44:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NormsRevenge

I very much hope a republican is going to run against Martinez next time. If not I will be voting democrat.


42 posted on 10/20/2007 7:45:44 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: longtermmemmory

(don’t forget the Dream Act AMNESTY is still on the table with intended passage before thanksgiving)

DREAM ACT is back as a standalone Senate bill:

October 18, 2007 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE

By Mr. DURBIN (for himself, Mr. HAGEL, and Mr. LUGAR):

S. 2205. A bill to authorize the cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain alien students who are long-term United States residents and who entered the United States as children, and for other purposes; read the first time.

Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the text of the bill be printed in the RECORD.

There being no objection, the text of the bill was ordered to be placed in the RECORD, as follows:

S. 2205
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2007’’ or the ‘‘DREAM Act of 2007’’.

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http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=S13097&dbname=2007_record

Complete text at the link....conveniently not printed until fri nite.....


43 posted on 10/20/2007 7:48:44 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Grunthor

now his is claimed by the “latinos”

before he was called “hispanic”

This is so LA. latinos used to be a slur term and Hispanic refered to all those who were of hispanic decent.


44 posted on 10/20/2007 7:48:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Cicero
The worst of it was that the President failed to emphasize the difference between Latino citizens and criminal invaders, something that most Latino Republicans understood. Now it has backfired on the party.

I have NEVER seen an administration with worse communication skills. Some of that has to do with guts and a willingness to get mean against mean, lying political enemies. Bush just can't stomach a fight, and apparently neither can anybody else around him.

Gonzales whipped puppy-dog performance, speckled with about fifty apologies, before the Senate Judiciary Committee was one of the most pathetic and embarrassing things I ever saw.

45 posted on 10/20/2007 7:51:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: libbylu
If not I will be voting democrat.

You're rude.

46 posted on 10/20/2007 7:53:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Haddit
Right now I'm blasting some ACDC. It really annoys the Mexican neighbors

Want to *really* annoy them? Crank up the "Ameriachi"... they *hate* it!


47 posted on 10/20/2007 7:55:03 PM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"The message that it sends is Latinos are not welcome," De Posada said.

Latinos are welcome.

Illegal aliens and their enablers are not. There is a difference.

48 posted on 10/20/2007 7:55:24 PM PDT by Gritty (When a Liberal speaks, between the lines the rhetoric is a map back to the Dark Ages-Hermann Cain)
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To: NormsRevenge
Paging Michael Steele, paging Michael Steele.
Please pickup the white courtesy phone for your job offer.
(I can only hope)
49 posted on 10/20/2007 7:56:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: NormsRevenge; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Joe Brower
There was a very large group of vocal Martinez supporters here on FR. They loudly proclaimed he was the "true conservative" in the race and triumped his great "pro-life" credentials and the fact he would "deliver" Florida to Bush by bring out massive Hispanic crossover votes (in fact, Mel ended up running far BEHIND Bush in the 2004 general election and barely got elected over a C-list opponent). Many freepers hailed the need to elect Mel so we would have an "hispanic" Senator, as if the GOP should reward people on the basis of affirmative action, rather than qualifications. (I'm all for electing a "hispanic" Senate who DESERVES a Senate seat based on their past "record", but Mel, like Harriet Miers, was anything but.)

Like the legions of freepers who hailed Condi Rice for President and Arnold for Governor here, the pro-Martinez crowd has suddenly disappeared. Any vocal Martinez supporters who trashed McCollum & Johnnie Byrd have now revised history to pretend like Martinz was the only Republican to step up the plate and run, so they "had to" vote for him "because the only alternative was Betty Castro". In reality, most of the GOP candidates would have won in Republican leaning Florida against a no-name opponent like Castro. They deliberately stabbed more conservative candidates in the back and pimped Martinez as a solid conservative choice in the primary -- not held their noses for him to simply "stop" Castro in the general.

Like the Arnoldbots, they simply can't come to terms with the fact that they WERE warned Martinez was a sleazy trial lawyer Bushbot who was lying about his positions to get elected, and they ignored the facts.

Martinez is now the Senate instead of a principled conservative because of useful idiots in the conservative "base" believing candidates who say anything to get elected.

50 posted on 10/20/2007 8:09:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors win. Senators DON'T. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it)
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