Posted on 10/22/2007 8:06:14 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
SAN DIEGO -- With fire spreading quickly westward, San Diego County officials ordered the evacuation of a huge area east of Interstate 15 between Del Dios Highway and Highway 56 early Mon"This is the worst fire this county has ever seen -- worse than the Cedar Fire [of 2003]," Sheriff Bill Kolender said.
At a news conference shortly after 6 a.m., officials said fires had spread dramatically overnight, whipped by fierce Santa Ana winds. They said fire had jumped Interstate 15 at Lake Hodges and was burning in parts of Rancho Bernardo. Because of the explosive and unpredictable nature of the blazes, all residents living between Interstate 15 and Interstate 5 from Del Dios Highway in the north to Highway 56 in the south were told to begin evacuating.
"This fire is moving very quickly," San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said. "Watch TV, listen to the radio and have your car prepared to leave."
Among the communities in the evacuation area are Rancho Sante Fe, Carmel Highlands, Rancho Bernardo, Del Mar Heights and Fairbanks Ranch and parts of Rancho Penasquitos.
Officials have opened Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley to handle the large number of evacuees.
Sanders asked everyone in San Diego County to minimize the use of cell phones to leave the airways free for the use of emergency personnel.day.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcsandiego.com ...
Do you think that there will be looting, raping and pillaging inside of Qualcomm?
See tag line.
You know, this is all Bush’s fault.
I wonder if any homegrown jihadis are complicit in these fires?
I think that’s about 500 miles north beside a bay.
Agreed! If we didn’t invade Iraq we would have had enough troops to invade Califorina and rid ourselves of the most liberal state in the Union!!! :-)
From MarketWatch Herb Greenburg’s Blog:
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/greenberg/
10:20:59 AM October 22nd, 2007
The Enormity of the Situation…
Can’t be stressed in San Diego. We’re packing and getting out of dodge.
Cheers.
9:51:49 AM October 22nd, 2007
San Diego Evacuation
This is remarkable. They’ve just evacuated a major part of San Diego: Everywhere East of the I-5, North of the 56 and South of Lake Hodges. If you know San Diego, this is, well, half the area. My area, Carmel Valley, is included. This is JUST east of Del Mar. Total track home city, but also includes Rancho Santa Fe.
8:54:32 AM October 22nd, 2007
San Diego Fires
The San Diego fires are quite serious. For those of you who know the area, there are great concerns about the San Diego Wild Animal Park, which is northeast of the city. More disconcerting is the evacuation of the heavily populated Rancho Bernardo — which is northeast of the city and roughly about 18 miles due east of Del Mar; about 14 miles east of my home. There are currently about eight fires burning in the county.
What a difference a few hours make: My wife and I were out for about 2 hours yesterday. We left our home east of Del Mar on what was a windy but richly warm day as the Santa Ana winds started to kick up. There was no talk of fire. We had headed just a few miles north on the coast. By the we turned around we headed into smoke that was really so thick and red that we thought the fires were either on the coast by Del Mar or somewhere near our home. Yet the flames were 30-plus miles east of us. That’s how intense the winds were. Rather than dying down at night, as they often do, the winds have continued to blow with heavy gusts throughout the night. No matter where you are east of the flames it’s impossible to escape the soot and ash. I would suspect my area is very safe and not threatened. But many schools and all San Diego courts have been closed.
La Jolla backwards is Al Alloj.
Praying for you all. I know that area well and dealt with the aftermath of the Cedar and Paradise Fires as part of my job.
For perspective, we had these large wildfires every year in Alabama (a woodland state) until the late 1940’s and early 1950’s when we instituted scientific forestry management.
Now we’ve got logging roads strategically placed to serve as fire breaks in ways that limit most of our fires to a mere 100 acres.
This is why you no longer hear about great forest fires in Alabama.
Such large fires *can* be stopped with proper land management from mature adults.
The pyros are out today and they aim to burn So Cal to the ground:
6:18 a.m.: Two fires burning 160 acres; homes evacuated
Melissa Pinion-Whitt, Staff writer
ONTARIO - Two brush fires fueled by 30 to 40 mph Santa Ana winds are burning in the south part of the city, prompting evacuations and damaging structures.
One of the blazes is burning in the 8600 block of East Schaefer Avenue and the other is in the 13000 block of South Walker Avenue. The fires have burned about 160 acres, said Ontario fire spokesman Jacob Green.
More than 100 firefighters from Ontario and surrounding agencies battled the blaze, dealing with low visibility and high winds and blowing debris, Green said.
Mandatory evacuations were in effect for residents south of Schaefer, east of Grove Avenue, north of Edison Avenue and west of Walker Avenue.
Residents were evacuated to the Westwind Community Center at 2425 Riverside Drive in Ontario. Firefighters established a disaster hotline for residents, (909) 988-3650.
Unfortunately, many Orange County and San Bernadino county cities have engines in Malibu. So California fire departments are stretched thin. I watched Fullerton FD battle a structure fire in Burbank last night.
There should probably just be one thread for all of the fires burning in SoCal. It’s going to be a long day.
It seems putting in wide, permanent fire breaks in these areas, particularly around inhabited areas, would stop fires
from spreading.
You sure? Maybe you should come down to Monmouth County?
None of any of the people arrested for starting fires in Southern California in the past few years have been Muslim, despite much hope to the contrary.
This is an ecosystem that naturally burns and given the right conditions it's going to burn eventually from one cause or another.
Probably not. San Diego is a pretty conservative area (only large city in California that is so).
Therefore expect things to be more civilized.
Ya....God's going after San Diego because he couldn't get the fires whipped up in Las Vegas.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1914596/posts
Thinking the same. You’ll be interested in the above thread...arson in Irivine...3 different fire starts.
I am sure he has something else in hand for Vegas :-)
Not when these winds kick up. There's not a firebreak in the word that will stop the embers from traveling in hurricane force gusts.
Here’s a story about two beautiful sister from that exact area four years ago near where Duncan Hunter lost his home. One was burned to death, the other horribly maimed.
Go ahead and make your stupid Sodom and Gomorrah jokes. San Diego is no where near as close to the perverts in San Francisco as you are in your tiny corrupt little state to Manhattan and all of Massachusetts and every other liberal nut up and down the East Cost.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2003/11/07/news/inland/11_6_0322_11_46.txt
Now that's funny!
Exactly!
Prayers for the people who are in the area.
I hope that was suppoesd to say "East of I-15."
6:24 a.m.
Mandatory evacuations have been ordered for a huge swath totaling 100 square miles and ranging from Interstate 5 on the west across Interstate 15 to the east, and north from state Route 56 to Lake Hodges, said San Diego fire department spokesman Maurice Luque.
Flames penetrated Rancho Bernardo from the northeast beginning around 3:30 a.m., and have jumped Interstate 15 at Carmel Valley Road, Luque said.
An undetermined number of homes are burning and there are reports of people trapped in their homes and cars, Luque said.
Someone tell me....is this near the Navy base?
that is correct
It is difficult to comprehend the absolute delight that some find in the pain and suffering of others. Whenever and wherever disaster strikes, the majority of sufferers are at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Our prayers for all those endangered.
Not close at all. No worries. Tell your son we thank him for his service!
Either these fires all started by lightening strikes, careless campers, or it is a concerted, coordinated plan by 'evil-doers'.
That term applies to IMF & World Bank protesters...as well as ROP jihadists...or just plain ole firebugs.
Jim Rob lives in Fresno, 300 miles North of there
Oh no. Is Julian in trouble again?
The Naval Base is totally safe. These fires are in the brush covered foothills East of San Diego.
Uh. These aren’t forest fires, they are brush fires, and a natural part of Southern California’s enviroment. What’s unnatural is greedy developers and (mostly wealthy) morons building in areas that are historically fire prone.
Somehow the Indians and original settlers knew better then to build in fire prone areas.
At least one fire was started by a downed power line. There were multiple downed lines overnight because of the very high winds.
Jim Rob is in Northern California.
You think the idiots in NJ/NY/MA don’t understand CA you should see what they think about FL.
FNC is a great example of NE ignorance of anything having to do with geography or science — and fire is both (so is hurricanes.)
OK...I have my bearings. Growing up in North County, “east of I-5” means “everybody.”
Would have no effect in this situation. The Santa Ana winds are just too strong and the area too dry. Even if there were huge firebreaks, the winds would blow the embers past the firebreaks and into the next forested/flammable area. And the fires aren’t arson, they’re electrical fires started from power-lines that have been knocked down by the winds. The only hope for the area is that the winds will die down. And pray.
There should probably just be one thread for all of the fires burning in SoCal. It’s going to be a long day.
Yeah starting with mine i was first yesterday hours before
some other posts
San Diego County is about the same politically as Monmouth County in NJ.
Results from 2004
Monmouth County
Kerry 133773 44.58%
Bush 163650 54.54%
Other 2658 0.89%
San Diego County
Kerry 526437 46.44%
Bush 596033 52.58%
Other 11114 0.98%
compared to San Fransisco County
San Fransisco County
Kerry 296772 83.38%
Bush 54355 15.27%
Other 4802 1.35%
But still, thinking it’s a good thing that people burn in a fire is pretty tasteless regardless.
If there was anything that would get the far-left out of bed with the Islamofascists, it would be jihadis starting forest fires. Executing homosexuals, stoning and beating innocent women, Sharia Law, mutilation of female genitals, death penalty for pornography, concubine slavery, criminalization of the teaching of evolution, criminalization of fornication, no freedom or speech or freedom of religion, etc etc etc just isn't enough. But to attack innocent trees, animals, or other parts of the environment, is an assault on their RELIGION, the very basis of their faith, their salvation, their meaning of life. Attacking the prime symbols of American militarism and capitalism on 9/11 endeared the left to Islamofascism. IMO, they would feel betrayed if nature was attacked. /rant
Thanks for that info....
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