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Massive Evacuation Ordered West Of I-15 Qualcomm Stadium Opened For Evacuees
NBC San Diego ^ | 10/22/2007

Posted on 10/22/2007 8:06:14 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

SAN DIEGO -- With fire spreading quickly westward, San Diego County officials ordered the evacuation of a huge area east of Interstate 15 between Del Dios Highway and Highway 56 early Mon"This is the worst fire this county has ever seen -- worse than the Cedar Fire [of 2003]," Sheriff Bill Kolender said.

At a news conference shortly after 6 a.m., officials said fires had spread dramatically overnight, whipped by fierce Santa Ana winds. They said fire had jumped Interstate 15 at Lake Hodges and was burning in parts of Rancho Bernardo. Because of the explosive and unpredictable nature of the blazes, all residents living between Interstate 15 and Interstate 5 from Del Dios Highway in the north to Highway 56 in the south were told to begin evacuating.

"This fire is moving very quickly," San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said. "Watch TV, listen to the radio and have your car prepared to leave."

Among the communities in the evacuation area are Rancho Sante Fe, Carmel Highlands, Rancho Bernardo, Del Mar Heights and Fairbanks Ranch and parts of Rancho Penasquitos.

Officials have opened Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley to handle the large number of evacuees.

Sanders asked everyone in San Diego County to minimize the use of cell phones to leave the airways free for the use of emergency personnel.day.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcsandiego.com ...


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Local news says highways are jammed and San Diego Animal Park is in direct line of the fires.
1 posted on 10/22/2007 8:06:18 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Do you think that there will be looting, raping and pillaging inside of Qualcomm?


2 posted on 10/22/2007 8:08:20 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Sleeping Freeper
When people learn that nature takes management they might be more willing to pay landowners to perform it. Bureaucracies are inept, expensive, and have no structural motive to succeed.

See tag line.

4 posted on 10/22/2007 8:10:02 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: SelectiveJNJ

You know, this is all Bush’s fault.


5 posted on 10/22/2007 8:10:20 AM PDT by TheConservator ("I spent my life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless, but not men.")
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I wonder if any homegrown jihadis are complicit in these fires?


6 posted on 10/22/2007 8:10:26 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: Slapshot68
>Do you think that there will be looting, raping and pillaging inside of Qualcomm?

Think of the rampant
sharing of copyrighted
digital music!
7 posted on 10/22/2007 8:12:00 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: SelectiveJNJ

I think that’s about 500 miles north beside a bay.


8 posted on 10/22/2007 8:13:24 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: TheConservator

Agreed! If we didn’t invade Iraq we would have had enough troops to invade Califorina and rid ourselves of the most liberal state in the Union!!! :-)


9 posted on 10/22/2007 8:14:04 AM PDT by SelectiveJNJ
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To: All

From MarketWatch Herb Greenburg’s Blog:

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/greenberg/

10:20:59 AM October 22nd, 2007
The Enormity of the Situation…
Can’t be stressed in San Diego. We’re packing and getting out of dodge.

Cheers.

9:51:49 AM October 22nd, 2007
San Diego Evacuation
This is remarkable. They’ve just evacuated a major part of San Diego: Everywhere East of the I-5, North of the 56 and South of Lake Hodges. If you know San Diego, this is, well, half the area. My area, Carmel Valley, is included. This is JUST east of Del Mar. Total track home city, but also includes Rancho Santa Fe.

8:54:32 AM October 22nd, 2007
San Diego Fires
The San Diego fires are quite serious. For those of you who know the area, there are great concerns about the San Diego Wild Animal Park, which is northeast of the city. More disconcerting is the evacuation of the heavily populated Rancho Bernardo — which is northeast of the city and roughly about 18 miles due east of Del Mar; about 14 miles east of my home. There are currently about eight fires burning in the county.

What a difference a few hours make: My wife and I were out for about 2 hours yesterday. We left our home east of Del Mar on what was a windy but richly warm day as the Santa Ana winds started to kick up. There was no talk of fire. We had headed just a few miles north on the coast. By the we turned around we headed into smoke that was really so thick and red that we thought the fires were either on the coast by Del Mar or somewhere near our home. Yet the flames were 30-plus miles east of us. That’s how intense the winds were. Rather than dying down at night, as they often do, the winds have continued to blow with heavy gusts throughout the night. No matter where you are east of the flames it’s impossible to escape the soot and ash. I would suspect my area is very safe and not threatened. But many schools and all San Diego courts have been closed.


10 posted on 10/22/2007 8:14:46 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

La Jolla backwards is Al Alloj.


11 posted on 10/22/2007 8:15:03 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Praying for you all. I know that area well and dealt with the aftermath of the Cedar and Paradise Fires as part of my job.


12 posted on 10/22/2007 8:17:23 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

For perspective, we had these large wildfires every year in Alabama (a woodland state) until the late 1940’s and early 1950’s when we instituted scientific forestry management.

Now we’ve got logging roads strategically placed to serve as fire breaks in ways that limit most of our fires to a mere 100 acres.

This is why you no longer hear about great forest fires in Alabama.

Such large fires *can* be stopped with proper land management from mature adults.


13 posted on 10/22/2007 8:17:51 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
My thoughts exactly. Wouldn't’t take much for the ROP to screw around with us this way!
14 posted on 10/22/2007 8:18:12 AM PDT by Empireoftheatom48
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To: Sleeping Freeper

The pyros are out today and they aim to burn So Cal to the ground:


6:18 a.m.: Two fires burning 160 acres; homes evacuated
Melissa Pinion-Whitt, Staff writer

ONTARIO - Two brush fires fueled by 30 to 40 mph Santa Ana winds are burning in the south part of the city, prompting evacuations and damaging structures.
One of the blazes is burning in the 8600 block of East Schaefer Avenue and the other is in the 13000 block of South Walker Avenue. The fires have burned about 160 acres, said Ontario fire spokesman Jacob Green.

More than 100 firefighters from Ontario and surrounding agencies battled the blaze, dealing with low visibility and high winds and blowing debris, Green said.

Mandatory evacuations were in effect for residents south of Schaefer, east of Grove Avenue, north of Edison Avenue and west of Walker Avenue.

Residents were evacuated to the Westwind Community Center at 2425 Riverside Drive in Ontario. Firefighters established a disaster hotline for residents, (909) 988-3650.


Unfortunately, many Orange County and San Bernadino county cities have engines in Malibu. So California fire departments are stretched thin. I watched Fullerton FD battle a structure fire in Burbank last night.


15 posted on 10/22/2007 8:18:38 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Sleeping Freeper; Admin Moderator

There should probably just be one thread for all of the fires burning in SoCal. It’s going to be a long day.


17 posted on 10/22/2007 8:20:21 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Carry_Okie

It seems putting in wide, permanent fire breaks in these areas, particularly around inhabited areas, would stop fires
from spreading.


18 posted on 10/22/2007 8:23:00 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: ElkGroveDan

You sure? Maybe you should come down to Monmouth County?


19 posted on 10/22/2007 8:23:04 AM PDT by SelectiveJNJ
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To: Empireoftheatom48
My thoughts exactly. Wouldn't’t take much for the ROP to screw around with us this way!

None of any of the people arrested for starting fires in Southern California in the past few years have been Muslim, despite much hope to the contrary.

This is an ecosystem that naturally burns and given the right conditions it's going to burn eventually from one cause or another.

20 posted on 10/22/2007 8:23:53 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Slapshot68

Probably not. San Diego is a pretty conservative area (only large city in California that is so).

Therefore expect things to be more civilized.


21 posted on 10/22/2007 8:25:52 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (I'm supporting a Conservative not a RINO http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: SelectiveJNJ
Sodom and Gomorrah?

Ya....God's going after San Diego because he couldn't get the fires whipped up in Las Vegas.

22 posted on 10/22/2007 8:26:47 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is a clown car with guns.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1914596/posts

Thinking the same. You’ll be interested in the above thread...arson in Irivine...3 different fire starts.


23 posted on 10/22/2007 8:27:22 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I am sure he has something else in hand for Vegas :-)


24 posted on 10/22/2007 8:29:34 AM PDT by SelectiveJNJ
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To: Rennes Templar
It seems putting in wide, permanent fire breaks in these areas, particularly around inhabited areas, would stop fires from spreading.

Not when these winds kick up. There's not a firebreak in the word that will stop the embers from traveling in hurricane force gusts.

25 posted on 10/22/2007 8:30:11 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: SelectiveJNJ
Oh well excuse me. Monmouth County? What do you know about San Diego or how big it is? Nothing. But that gives you the right make nasty little wisecracks while people are dying.

Here’s a story about two beautiful sister from that exact area four years ago near where Duncan Hunter lost his home. One was burned to death, the other horribly maimed.

Go ahead and make your stupid Sodom and Gomorrah jokes. San Diego is no where near as close to the perverts in San Francisco as you are in your tiny corrupt little state to Manhattan and all of Massachusetts and every other liberal nut up and down the East Cost.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2003/11/07/news/inland/11_6_0322_11_46.txt

26 posted on 10/22/2007 8:32:29 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: Thrownatbirth
La Jolla backwards is Al Alloj.

Now that's funny!

28 posted on 10/22/2007 8:35:16 AM PDT by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: Southack
Such large fires *can* be stopped with proper land management from mature adults.

Exactly!

Prayers for the people who are in the area.

29 posted on 10/22/2007 8:36:13 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sleeping Freeper
They’ve just evacuated a major part of San Diego: Everywhere East of the I-5, North of the 56 and South of Lake Hodges...

I hope that was suppoesd to say "East of I-15."

30 posted on 10/22/2007 8:36:50 AM PDT by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Someone tell me....is this near the Navy base?


32 posted on 10/22/2007 8:39:22 AM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Where does JimRob live re: the current SoCal fires? Safe?


33 posted on 10/22/2007 8:39:52 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: TankerKC
"East of the I-5"

that is correct

34 posted on 10/22/2007 8:41:18 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: ElkGroveDan
Decent people with families are suffering

It is difficult to comprehend the absolute delight that some find in the pain and suffering of others. Whenever and wherever disaster strikes, the majority of sufferers are at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Our prayers for all those endangered.

35 posted on 10/22/2007 8:41:28 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: mpackard

Not close at all. No worries. Tell your son we thank him for his service!


36 posted on 10/22/2007 8:41:38 AM PDT by mickeylee (AVON Lady)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Who says they need to be 'homegrown'?

Either these fires all started by lightening strikes, careless campers, or it is a concerted, coordinated plan by 'evil-doers'.

That term applies to IMF & World Bank protesters...as well as ROP jihadists...or just plain ole firebugs.

37 posted on 10/22/2007 8:42:21 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: MindBender26

Jim Rob lives in Fresno, 300 miles North of there


38 posted on 10/22/2007 8:42:43 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Oh no. Is Julian in trouble again?


39 posted on 10/22/2007 8:43:07 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: mpackard

The Naval Base is totally safe. These fires are in the brush covered foothills East of San Diego.


40 posted on 10/22/2007 8:44:02 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: kcvl

Uh. These aren’t forest fires, they are brush fires, and a natural part of Southern California’s enviroment. What’s unnatural is greedy developers and (mostly wealthy) morons building in areas that are historically fire prone.

Somehow the Indians and original settlers knew better then to build in fire prone areas.


41 posted on 10/22/2007 8:45:28 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: MindBender26

Jim Rob is in Northern California.


43 posted on 10/22/2007 8:46:08 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: ElkGroveDan

You think the idiots in NJ/NY/MA don’t understand CA you should see what they think about FL.

FNC is a great example of NE ignorance of anything having to do with geography or science — and fire is both (so is hurricanes.)


44 posted on 10/22/2007 8:46:54 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida (Peace is the aftermath of victory.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

OK...I have my bearings. Growing up in North County, “east of I-5” means “everybody.”


45 posted on 10/22/2007 8:47:05 AM PDT by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Would have no effect in this situation. The Santa Ana winds are just too strong and the area too dry. Even if there were huge firebreaks, the winds would blow the embers past the firebreaks and into the next forested/flammable area. And the fires aren’t arson, they’re electrical fires started from power-lines that have been knocked down by the winds. The only hope for the area is that the winds will die down. And pray.


46 posted on 10/22/2007 8:48:03 AM PDT by DrGunsforHands
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To: Smogger

There should probably just be one thread for all of the fires burning in SoCal. It’s going to be a long day.

Yeah starting with mine i was first yesterday hours before

some other posts


47 posted on 10/22/2007 8:49:17 AM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: ElkGroveDan; SelectiveJNJ

San Diego County is about the same politically as Monmouth County in NJ.

Results from 2004

Monmouth County

Kerry 133773 44.58%
Bush 163650 54.54%
Other 2658 0.89%

San Diego County

Kerry 526437 46.44%
Bush 596033 52.58%
Other 11114 0.98%

compared to San Fransisco County

San Fransisco County

Kerry 296772 83.38%
Bush 54355 15.27%
Other 4802 1.35%

But still, thinking it’s a good thing that people burn in a fire is pretty tasteless regardless.


48 posted on 10/22/2007 8:50:01 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
I wonder if any homegrown jihadis are complicit in these fires?

If there was anything that would get the far-left out of bed with the Islamofascists, it would be jihadis starting forest fires. Executing homosexuals, stoning and beating innocent women, Sharia Law, mutilation of female genitals, death penalty for pornography, concubine slavery, criminalization of the teaching of evolution, criminalization of fornication, no freedom or speech or freedom of religion, etc etc etc just isn't enough. But to attack innocent trees, animals, or other parts of the environment, is an assault on their RELIGION, the very basis of their faith, their salvation, their meaning of life. Attacking the prime symbols of American militarism and capitalism on 9/11 endeared the left to Islamofascism. IMO, they would feel betrayed if nature was attacked. /rant

49 posted on 10/22/2007 8:51:06 AM PDT by M203M4 (Giuliani/Clinton 2008 - no totalitarian left behind!)
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To: sandyeggo

Thanks for that info....


50 posted on 10/22/2007 8:52:27 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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