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Are Some Men Predisposed To Pedophilia? (Height May Point To A Biological Basis For Pedophilia)
ScienceDaily ^ | Oct. 23, 2007 | ScienceDaily

Posted on 10/22/2007 7:41:10 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Are Some Men Predisposed To Pedophilia?

ScienceDaily (Oct. 23, 2007) — Height may point to a biological basis for pedophilia, according to new research released by the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH). The study found that pedophilic males were shorter on average than males without a sexual attraction to children.

The study, published in Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment, suggests that pedophiles may have been exposed to pre-birth conditions that affected their physical development. The researchers observed this height difference by analyzing the files of over 1,000 men who were assessed for pedophilia or other sexual disorders between 1995 and 2006 at the Kurt Freund Laboratory in Toronto, Canada.

A difference in average height is a trait found in other illnesses with biological links. The average difference in height was two centimeters, which is similar to the shorter height associated with schizophrenia or Alzheimer's disease.

Further research is necessary, but this finding re-enforces evidence that pedophilia has a biological cause, possibly related to brain development before birth.

"This research does not mean that pedophiles are not criminally responsible for their behavior," said Dr. James Cantor, CAMH Psychologist and lead researcher on the study, "but the discovery of biological markers for pedophilia has important implications for future study and possibly treatment."

This study adds to previous research from this team that found pedophiles have lower IQs, are three times more likely to be left-handed, failed school grades significantly more frequently, and suffered more head injuries as children.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


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KEYWORDS: disorders; homosexualagenda; junkscience; molesters; pedophilia; perverts; psychology; science; sexcrimes; sexoffenders; shorteyes; tards
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"This research does not mean that pedophiles are not criminally responsible for their behavior, but the discovery of biological markers for pedophilia has important implications for future study and possibly treatment."

Well...if this is true then the treatment for short pedophiles could be to put them on the rack and stretch them until they are 6'

But seriously...this could be a troubling report if criminal defense attorneys begin to raise this issue as a mitigating factor.

1 posted on 10/22/2007 7:41:12 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

. short eyes 30 up, 5 down

a pedophile, or one who is jailed for child molestation

It’s dangerous to be labeled Short Eyes in prison.

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2. short eyes 20 up, 10 down

a prison incarcerated for child moslestion.

“don’t associate with him cuz his got short eyes”

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2 posted on 10/22/2007 7:47:07 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: DogByte6RER

I don’t give a crap if it’s genetic or learned. They say serial killers have a genetic defect as well. Shoot both varieties of defects.


3 posted on 10/22/2007 7:47:08 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: DogByte6RER

Hmm...

4 posted on 10/22/2007 7:47:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: DogByte6RER

Am I predisposed to something becaause I think pedophiles should be mutilated without anesthesia?


5 posted on 10/22/2007 7:48:42 PM PDT by stevem
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To: DogByte6RER

BS, BS, BS, BS and I say again, BS.


6 posted on 10/22/2007 7:49:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: DogByte6RER
I take it as proof that pedophiles can never be cured and should never be around children!

A lobotomy might help if done around the neck.

7 posted on 10/22/2007 7:50:46 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: DogByte6RER
But seriously...this could be a troubling report if criminal defense attorneys begin to raise this issue as a mitigating factor.

I saw a thing recently which said that an emerging trend among defense lawyers when defending a murder suspect is to arrange a CT scan and/or an MRI of the brain.The results are turned over to a "medical expert" who testifies that the "abnormalities" found in the scans explain why the guy killed 7 people and tore out their livers and because of the "abnormalities" the defendant absolutely cannot be held legally responsible for his actions.

8 posted on 10/22/2007 7:50:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: DogByte6RER
If enough demons of lust take up residence in a person, even animals and dead people can become an avenue of demonic subjugation. I’m waiting for human sacrifice to be a genetic disorder, then I know we are at the end of the end.
9 posted on 10/22/2007 7:53:14 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: DogByte6RER

More BS from science to feed the national hysteria (saying as one who was recently accused of being a pedophile by a crazed mother on a public bus,all of that for “looking funny”.) Link it to the Evo threads and ask why science is in such disrepute.


10 posted on 10/22/2007 7:54:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: DogByte6RER

The biological part seems pretty tenuous. I would think that it would be more likely to have a basis in socialization and personal relationships that are impaired by being short. Other than being a jockey, I can’t think of any situation in our culture where shortness is desirable.
Perhaps those that are short learn that shortness=vulnerability and they choose to victimize the one group that is, by their measure, inferior to them.


11 posted on 10/22/2007 7:54:56 PM PDT by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: DogByte6RER

short criminal defense attorneys?


12 posted on 10/22/2007 7:56:23 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: DogByte6RER

2 cm is .8 inches. Thats in the noise level. This article makes me suspicious its “non-scientific”


13 posted on 10/22/2007 7:58:13 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: DogByte6RER

Short people have to reason to live!


14 posted on 10/22/2007 7:58:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: DogByte6RER
Are Some Men Predisposed To Pedophilia?

Get near mine and they WILL be removed from the gene pool!!

15 posted on 10/22/2007 7:58:27 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DogByte6RER
pedophilia or other sexual disorders

well, that's certainly nails it down.

2 centimeters

less than 8/10 of an inch is statistically significant ?

1,000 men who were assessed for pedophilia or other sexual disorders between 1995 and 2006 at the Kurt Freund Laboratory in Toronto, Canada.

ah...I get it. Most pedophiles are Canadian.
16 posted on 10/22/2007 7:59:13 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: doc1019

No need to reply.....
You are correct.
Molesters come in all sizes and shapes.


17 posted on 10/22/2007 8:01:30 PM PDT by squibs
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To: DogByte6RER
I don't care what anybody says, I'm a pedalphile!


18 posted on 10/22/2007 8:04:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: DogByte6RER

This is just more crap about “sexual preference genes”. If they find that pedophiles are biologically pedophiles then it’s poof that sex drive is not a choice. This kind of stuff is just to add fuel to homosexuality is not a lifestyle but a biological reality, so therefor they should be treated just as we would treat another race.


19 posted on 10/22/2007 8:06:34 PM PDT by txroadkill ( http://iraqstar.org)
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To: stylin19a
Beware of short, left-handed Canadians.:}
20 posted on 10/22/2007 8:12:57 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: DogByte6RER
Sounds tenuous. Take Napoleon. He decided to conquer Europe instead.
21 posted on 10/22/2007 8:13:08 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: DogByte6RER

Don’t know about height but I am quite sure there is an ideological factor here. Most pedophiles are probably liberal democrats.


22 posted on 10/22/2007 8:13:31 PM PDT by indcons
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To: DogByte6RER

Women also like taller guys. Could inability to get a date with an adult woman also be one factor in pedophilia? Clearly, it wouldn’t be the only factor, but perhaps it plays some role.


23 posted on 10/22/2007 8:13:40 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: DogByte6RER

Homosexuals are prone to pederasty.....I am convinced of it.

Hey you freaks at DC and WA!

kiss my butt


24 posted on 10/22/2007 8:14:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (Behind the lines in Vichy Nashville)
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To: DogByte6RER

Anyone here watch the “To Catch A Preditor” series on MSNBC? The men in that sting appeared to come from all walks of life, and were of various heights and body types.


25 posted on 10/22/2007 8:18:07 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: DogByte6RER
I observed the prosecution of numerous pedophiles resulting from Edwin Meese's "Project Looking Glass" stings in the late 80's.

In every case I can recall, the defendants were of short stature, often immature in appearance, quite often noticeably "child like" themselves.

26 posted on 10/22/2007 8:20:43 PM PDT by Williams
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To: DogByte6RER
Solution

:)

27 posted on 10/22/2007 8:21:07 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: txroadkill

My thoughts exactly!

Where and when will this nonsense ever stop?


28 posted on 10/22/2007 8:21:41 PM PDT by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: Williams

Michael Jackson.


29 posted on 10/22/2007 8:24:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DogByte6RER

Dr. James Cantor:

Study analyses chances of homosexuality
Statistical analysis applied to fraternal birth order effect

by Jessica Whiteside

May 27, 2002 — Roughly one in seven gay men may owe his sexual orientation to the fact he has older brothers, say U of T researchers.

Earlier studies have shown that each additional older brother increases the odds of homosexuality in a younger brother. “This phenomenon, known as the fraternal birth order effect, was first shown by Professor Ray Blanchard [of U of T’s Department of Psychiatry and the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health] and has since been confirmed by other scientists,” says CAMH post-doctoral fellow James Cantor. Cantor is co-author of a new study to determine the proportion of gay men whose sexual orientation is due to this effect. “This latest study demonstrates just how important that link is,” says Cantor.

In their study, Cantor and colleagues from U of T and CAMH applied statistical analysis to data collected from a sample of 302 gay men and 302 heterosexual men about the number of siblings each had. According to the researchers, the sexual orientation of about 15 per cent of gay men in the sample could be attributed to the older brother effect. Their analysis also suggests that, in the theoretical case of a boy with two-and-a-half older brothers, he would be twice as likely to be gay as a boy with no older brothers.

The study does not determine a cause of the correlation between homosexuality and having older brothers. However, there is growing evidence in other research that it may be pre-natal in nature, based on findings that gay men with older brothers tend to weigh less at birth than straight men with older brothers.

Published in the February 2002 issue of the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior, the study was funded by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health Foundation and the Ministry of Health.

http://www.news.utoronto.ca/bin3/020527a.asp


30 posted on 10/22/2007 8:26:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: DogByte6RER
I don't even wanna know how much hard-earned taxpayer money was frittered away on this inconclusive, unconvincing, pointless, bullsh&t "study"!
31 posted on 10/22/2007 8:27:48 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
To live

They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin’ great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Well, I don’t want no Short People
Don’t want no Short People
Don’t want no Short People
Round here

Short People are just the same
As you and I
(A Fool Such As I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It’s A Wonderful World)

Short People got nobody
Short People got nobody
Short People got nobody
To love

They got little baby legs
And they stand so low
You got to pick ‘em up
Just to say hello
They got little cars
That go beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin’ peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They’re gonna get you every time
Well, I don’t want no Short People
Don’t want no Short People
Don’t want no Short People
‘Round here


32 posted on 10/22/2007 8:28:12 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.)
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To: DogByte6RER

“This study adds to previous research from this team that found pedophiles have lower IQs, are three times more likely to be left-handed, failed school grades significantly more frequently, and suffered more head injuries as children.”

This reminds me of the time I hit my head on the way to remedial reading class while trying to jot down directions with my right hand. (ok, that was corny, I know)


33 posted on 10/22/2007 8:29:06 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: DogByte6RER

People have free will to choose evil no matter what their physical traits.


34 posted on 10/22/2007 8:29:07 PM PDT by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: DogByte6RER

Don’t homosexuals make the same claim? Will homosexuals be saying they should be allowed to molest boys because it’s normal for them to do so?


35 posted on 10/22/2007 8:30:29 PM PDT by kathsua (A woman can do anything a man can do and have babies besides.)
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To: papasmurf

Do these “scientists” have an agenda, like Kinsey did, and if their heads were measured, would there be a statistically significant extension of the points on their heads of 2 centimeters?


38 posted on 10/22/2007 8:43:29 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Not only does Fred Thompson cut taxes, he cuts tax collectors.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Then the problem can be solved by requiring all short men to walk on stilts.


39 posted on 10/22/2007 8:52:04 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: DogByte6RER
Who got short shorts?!
40 posted on 10/22/2007 8:54:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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41 posted on 10/22/2007 8:56:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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42 posted on 10/22/2007 8:57:21 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Liberty Wins

LOL


43 posted on 10/22/2007 8:57:39 PM PDT by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: doc1019

I agree. What all these people don’t want to admit is that there is such a thing as evil in the world. This is why they attribute all criminal and immoral behavior to biological causes or global warming or anything other than evil.


44 posted on 10/22/2007 9:02:14 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Yep, blame it on a gene and all is forgiven. Jesus is crying.


45 posted on 10/22/2007 9:07:03 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: DogByte6RER

uh huh .. you bet. Short men are prone to pedophilia and everyone who eats pickles will eventually die.


46 posted on 10/22/2007 9:21:41 PM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: DogByte6RER
This study adds to previous research from this team that found pedophiles have lower IQs, are three times more likely to be left-handed, failed school grades significantly more frequently, and suffered more head injuries as children.

Well that's just great. My son is short, I held him back and he's had two concussions. My daughter's left-handed and I'm sure that'll screw him up, somehow.

I should've just gone ahead and made him gay. /sacrasm

47 posted on 10/22/2007 9:34:34 PM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: Uriah_lost
I can’t think of any situation in our culture where shortness is desirable.

I know plenty of short guys who do just fine. They do tend to date really short girls, though!

48 posted on 10/22/2007 9:37:02 PM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: DogByte6RER

That’s it. No more midgets teaching in the public schools!


49 posted on 10/22/2007 9:48:46 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: DogByte6RER

How tall was Mohammed? ...and Arafat?


50 posted on 10/22/2007 9:50:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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