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Ecuador wants military base in Miami
Reuters ^ | 10/22/07 | Phil Stewart

Posted on 10/22/2007 8:38:02 PM PDT by LibWhacker

NAPLES (Reuters) - Ecuador's leftist President Rafael Correa said Washington must let him open a military base in Miami if the United States wants to keep using an air base on Ecuador's Pacific coast.

Correa has refused to renew Washington's lease on the Manta air base, set to expire in 2009. U.S. officials say it is vital for counter-narcotics surveillance operations on Pacific drug-running routes.

"We'll renew the base on one condition: that they let us put a base in Miami -- an Ecuadorean base," Correa said in an interview during a trip to Italy.

"If there's no problem having foreign soldiers on a country's soil, surely they'll let us have an Ecuadorean base in the United States."

The U.S. embassy to Ecuador says on its Web site that anti-narcotics flights from Manta gathered information behind more than 60 percent of illegal drug seizures on the high seas of the Eastern Pacific last year.

It offers a fact-sheet on the base at: http://ecuador.usembassy.gov/topics_of_interest/manta-fol.html

Correa, a popular leftist economist, had promised to cut off his arm before extending the lease that ends in 2009 and has called U.S. President George W. Bush a "dimwit".

But Correa, an ally of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, told Reuters he believed relations with the United States were "excellent" despite the base closing.

He rejected the idea that the episode reflected on U.S. ties at all.

"This is the only North American military base in South America," he said.

"So, then the other South American countries don't have good relations with the United States because they don't have military bases? That doesn't make any sense."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: base; ecuador; miami; military
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1 posted on 10/22/2007 8:38:04 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Pull everything out, raze the base to the ground. Give the looters nothing.


3 posted on 10/22/2007 8:45:15 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: LibWhacker

The Chinese are whispering ‘sweet-nothings’ in his ear.

Why else would he wish to cast the largest source of income from his sh*thole?


4 posted on 10/22/2007 8:46:10 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: yeehah

Forget Miami, let’s put the base in Riviera Beach. We can cede it to them. They won’t have to pay us a dime or offer any other compensation. They just have to live there.


5 posted on 10/22/2007 8:46:34 PM PDT by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: LibWhacker

Something like 10,000 surplus condos and several large lots of land for other failed to be financed condo developments in greater Miami/Dade. I’m sure some of those near bankrupt developers would sell their land to Ecuador at this point.


6 posted on 10/22/2007 8:47:10 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: LibWhacker

The Germans are cutting back operations at their base in New Mexico- perhaps they can sublease to him.


7 posted on 10/22/2007 8:47:16 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: LibWhacker

If it’s important enough, we’ll give them a base.


8 posted on 10/22/2007 8:49:44 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: LibWhacker

...we should just give them Massachusetts....


9 posted on 10/22/2007 8:52:45 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: LibWhacker
Correa, a popular leftist economist, had promised to cut off his arm
before extending the lease that ends in 2009


In the good old days before the Church hearings...I suspect the
CIA could have convinced him that he'd lose the arm if he didn't
extend the lease.
10 posted on 10/22/2007 8:53:45 PM PDT by VOA
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To: LibWhacker
Don’t they already have the Boston Red Sox?
11 posted on 10/22/2007 8:55:43 PM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: LibWhacker
"We'll renew the base on one condition: that they let us put a base in Miami -- an Ecuadorean base"

Give them one for the sake of fun. Surely this military base will look pathetic... and will be very embarrasing for Ecuadorian soldiers to even guard it... plus several daily fly-bys of F-22s.

12 posted on 10/22/2007 9:03:51 PM PDT by ChristianDefender ("Show No Mercy, For You Shall Receive None.")
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To: LibWhacker

Do the Ecuadorians speak Spanish … if so; Bush will give them anything they want.


13 posted on 10/22/2007 9:04:28 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: LibWhacker

San Francisco.

But they have to keep it.


14 posted on 10/22/2007 9:05:15 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: LibWhacker

Do we need a base in Ecuador?


15 posted on 10/22/2007 9:06:14 PM PDT by wastedyears (A cosmic castaway)
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To: wastedyears

If we leave a base in Equador, and China moves in,

do we resurrect the Monroe Doctrine?

(and why haven’t we, already??)


16 posted on 10/22/2007 9:07:46 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: LibWhacker

These tin-pot POS dictators are getting old. It’s time we slap one down as an example. Yes I’m calling for military intervention.


17 posted on 10/22/2007 9:12:26 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: LibWhacker
Ecuador's leftist President Rafael Correa said Washington must let him open a military base in Miami if the United States wants to keep using an air base on Ecuador's Pacific coast. Now that is a pull out that I can support. But Correa should beware and take a lesson from the Puerto Ricans when we pulled out of Viacas. The economy tanked and the Governor was screaming don't go. Bet President Bush said, 'Yeah, right.'
18 posted on 10/22/2007 9:13:09 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: dynachrome

Sounds like a plan to me! Leave no trace of it every being there. Then get the popcorn and sit back, because the citizens that don’t have their jobs anymore will be in the streets. This could be one of the best things to happen, because it would destabilize Ecuador, and who knows....


19 posted on 10/22/2007 9:15:49 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: wastedyears

I say we close it down, destroy it beyond recognition, and cut the buggers off economically, refuse all their exports.

Seems they need another revolution. Those stupid people never learn.


20 posted on 10/22/2007 9:17:26 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: doc1019
Do the Ecuadorians speak Spanish … if so; Bush will give them anything they want. ha h...not. Not even pithy.
21 posted on 10/22/2007 9:19:05 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: doc1019

In Ecuador they speak Spanish and their official currency is the U.S. Dollar.

Actually, their economy is based on the US Five Dollar Bill. If you try to use a twenty dollar bill to buy something they look at you like you are trying to pass a million dollar note at a Federal Reserve Bank.


22 posted on 10/22/2007 9:23:46 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: wastedyears

My attitude toward Correa and others like him is this: No, you corrupt kook, all cultures are not created equal. The day Ecuador is a democracy instead of a kleptocracy, is a superpower instead of a military laughingstock, is the main defender of freedom and human rights in the world, then and only then might we consider giving you a base in America (and it won’t be in Miami).


23 posted on 10/22/2007 9:24:21 PM PDT by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: trumandogz

Didn’t know about the money thing. Love learning things like this. Will investigate further. One of the countries I have always wanted to visit.


24 posted on 10/22/2007 9:28:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: LibWhacker

They can have New Orleans. They won’t stay long.


25 posted on 10/22/2007 9:31:28 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Nathan Zachary
No need to go that far. It is their country after all.

I say pull out, and pull out fast so there’s no doubt why and who is reponsible for the results. I’d also pull out of South Korea. Its been a thankless job for far too long.

I would think we could find somewhere in South America that wants our dollars. North Brazil might be nice... Right next to Venezuela...

26 posted on 10/22/2007 9:34:44 PM PDT by DB
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To: oneamericanvoice

? He seems to be giving everything to his Mexican friends And I can understand some of it … his sister-in-law is Cuban, he speaks (passable) Spanish, he lived most of his life along the Mexican boarder.


27 posted on 10/22/2007 9:36:21 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: LibWhacker

There’s always Alaska... Say far north Alaska...

I doubt they could even afford to man it...


28 posted on 10/22/2007 9:37:03 PM PDT by DB
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To: doc1019

It is an amazingly beautiful country but very poor even for South America.

When I was there I spent time in the Galapagos, along the Pacific coast and in the Capital. Of course the Galapagos are one of the greatest places I have been but Quito is a wonderful city.

It is located right on the equator at an elevation of 9500 feet but you can go up to 14,000 feet just outside the city. The location and elevation of Quito give it amazing weather all year long.

For the last seven or eight years they have used the US Dollar as their currency.


29 posted on 10/22/2007 9:38:15 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: doc1019

I know all that and am frustrated too. However, Mexico isn’t Ecuador. So what if his sister-in-law is Cuban? Not all Cubans are pro-Fidel.


30 posted on 10/22/2007 9:38:37 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: DB

Ecuador cannot afford to man bases in Ecuador.

This is simply an extortion attempt and Dubya will give them the money they want.


31 posted on 10/22/2007 9:39:42 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: LibWhacker

Don’t renew the lease. Don’t pay another penny.

Tell him “You want it—you take it”

Lessee how he likes living with one arm.


32 posted on 10/22/2007 9:40:52 PM PDT by exit82 (I believe Juanita--Hillary enabled Juanita's rapist.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Actually, the Pacific Coast of Ecuador in very much like S. Louisiana with wetlands, fishing and oil industries. Moreover, they would like Louisiana as it is third world just like Ecuador.


33 posted on 10/22/2007 9:45:15 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Didn’t say that either … just pointing out some reasons that Bush might be sympatric (?) to Spanish speaking people.


34 posted on 10/22/2007 9:47:48 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: LibWhacker
'leftist economist'

Isn't that an oxymoron?

35 posted on 10/22/2007 9:52:07 PM PDT by eldoradude (Think for yourself!)
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To: doc1019

I’ve never been there, but I understand a large part of the population of Ecuador speaks Indian languages like Quechua rather than Spanish. The country is almost exactly the same size as Nevada, so maybe it’s natural for them to gamble.


36 posted on 10/22/2007 10:19:26 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: LibWhacker
This dumbass reminds me of that professor whatshisname. Ward? The pretend Indian guy. I love how Rooters and AP, et al., always refer to these communists as "populists", "popular", "beloved", blah, blah.

As if the MSM nose wasn't already planted far enough up into the nether regions of the South American despots.

37 posted on 10/22/2007 10:30:49 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: LibWhacker

Even though the guy’s a leftist POS, can you blame him? What about Calderon with his “there is a Mexico wherever there is a Mexican” crap?


38 posted on 10/22/2007 10:40:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("Just 3 hours a day with Rudy Guiliani is all I ask" -- Sean Hannity is on!)
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To: LibWhacker
"If there's no problem having foreign soldiers on a country's soil, surely they'll let us have an Ecuadorean base in the United States."

As long as they pay the same amount as we do to them.

39 posted on 10/22/2007 10:49:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: trumandogz

I’ve been to Ecuador several times, including Manta. It’s been 10 years since I was there (the last time was a year after El Nino) but I didn’t know there was a US base at Manta. Anyway, Ecuador earns the tag, “banana republic,” for a variety of reasons. Driving through Ecuador, you will see banana plantation after plantation owned by Dole. Politics are a joke, the typical presidential race may have something like thirty candidates in the general election. During the campaign, homeowners will let political parties paint murals on their houses, advertising this or that candidate, just so they get their house painted. Whoever wins the election immediately replaces all the public officials, including customs agents, etc., with their friends family etc. The typical government employee is looking for a bribe on a routine basis, but mainly only from Ecuadorians, not tourists. Lawyers are merely money changers, the person arrested hires the lawyer to broker the bribe with the judge to avoid jail. Ecuador is beautiful, and it’s economy makes vacationing there a bargain, there has never been much tourism to Ecuador, except Galapagos.


40 posted on 10/23/2007 12:21:41 AM PDT by call2arms
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To: doc1019
just pointing out some reasons that Bush might be sympatric (?)

See that button to the far left below the "REPLY" box? Has the markings "S-P-E-L-L" on it?

Use it!

41 posted on 10/23/2007 2:03:01 AM PDT by woofer (Earth First! We'll mine the other eight later.)
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To: VOA
In the good old days before the Church hearings

Aaah, the good old days! Long gone I'm afraid. I can think of six of these jet-setting tinhorn dictators who would have had "mechanical problems" with their flights as they ran around rallying with each other.

42 posted on 10/23/2007 3:28:10 AM PDT by leadhead (Democracy can withstand anything but democrats)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If we leave a base in Equador, and China moves in,

The Chinese already control the Panama Canal.

43 posted on 10/23/2007 3:29:43 AM PDT by leadhead (Democracy can withstand anything but democrats)
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To: LibWhacker
I used to live near SouthCom in Doral (west of Miami Airport). To me, it was just an a-s ugly satellite dish surrounded by grazing cows. Lots of Latin American brass would show up from time to time.

Correa may want to consider Hightstown, NJ, as it has the largest Ecuadorian population per capita of any city in the US.

44 posted on 10/23/2007 3:33:15 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: LibWhacker

My vote goes to Hope, Arkansas. No need to build any buildings for the base, just use those 11,000 FEMA trailers left over from Katrina.


45 posted on 10/23/2007 3:48:27 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Spruce
After the non-signing of the ICC UN treaty in 2002, Bush set out to make side agreements with many nations and he used military aid/training as the carrot/stick.

After the the S. American countries refuse to make a deal, there were significant reductions in aid. Instead, SA turned to China to provide that military aid and training.

Bush quietly rescinded that policy, but it opened the door.

46 posted on 10/23/2007 4:06:38 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: LibWhacker

Homestead Air Force base, lots of available empty housing, and we could use the Ecuadorian air force as target practice.....errrrr aggressors. And Charge them rent.....Then send them back to send this little wannabe commie packing.


47 posted on 10/23/2007 4:27:30 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: leadhead

“The Chinese already control the Panama Canal.”

No they don’t.

Panama owns and controls the Panama Canal.

There are Zero, None, nada, PRC connected in anyway to the Panama Canal.

Hutchison Whampoa operates two, dos, 2 ports here. Hutchison Whampoa is under British management with Panamanian blue-collar workers. They are doing a fantastic job.

How many times does this have to be repeated?


48 posted on 10/23/2007 5:41:53 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: oneamericanvoice

“...destabilize Ecuador, and who knows...” Maybe the Chinese will establish a base.

How’s that gonna play in Peoria?


49 posted on 10/23/2007 5:51:55 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: LibWhacker

How much foreign aid are we sending to Ecuador? It should be reduced to zero, and as another noted, the base razed to the ground.


50 posted on 10/23/2007 5:55:59 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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