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The War for the Constitution ... (2008 -what's at stake)
WSJ ^ | Tuesday, October 23, 2007 | GARY L. MCDOWELL

Posted on 10/23/2007 4:09:07 AM PDT by IrishMike

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To: drpix
But maybe it's my fault for attempting to reason with the Legalize Drugs crowd.

It's your fault for looking for ways to claim support for "original intent" interpretation of the Constitution, and still support the drug war. That "if you rule in favor of one you accept them all" tapdance is a big steaming load. So is the "Clarence Thomas voted this way on this case, so he disagrees with Ron Paul on every Constitutional issue, (and I'm not cherry picking)" routine. Don't claim to support the Constituion and then look for word games you can play to help the liberals subvert it and pretend it's "conservative" just so you can score some points in the Bash Ron Paul game.

61 posted on 10/23/2007 4:33:24 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
On Thomas, the Constitution & federal drug laws, you continue to misquote, distort & spin around in circles. Seemingly oblivious to what I actual post, you again fail/refuse to grasp the simplest point.

But this time I think things have really become serious. You now claim that on the question of the Constitutionality of NSA wiretaps, the war in Iraq and federal drug laws, Ron Paul is on the same side as the likes of the ACLU & George Soros in order to advance Conservatism and to beat back the Liberal & Leftist hordes.

Again, as with many of my "debates" with Paulestinians, I end up with the same question: Dishonest, dense, delusional or PUI (Posting Under the Influence)...? Whatever, it's the same dead-end.

62 posted on 10/24/2007 4:54:00 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

You don’t have a micron of room to be complaining about anyone else’s misquoting, distortion and spin. You’ve tried to turn one isolated decision from Thomas into a claim of his support for a policy that flies in the face of everything else he’s written on the matter. The dead end is between your ears.


63 posted on 10/24/2007 5:13:58 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Dishonest, dense, delusional or PUI (Posting Under the Influence)...? Whatever, it’s the same dead-end.


64 posted on 10/24/2007 5:17:07 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

You’re down to copying and pasting your own crap.


65 posted on 10/24/2007 5:18:40 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Dishonest, dense, delusional or PUI (Posting Under the Influence)...? Whatever, it’s the same dead-end.


66 posted on 10/24/2007 5:23:08 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

Do it again. Spamming the same post over and over again is a sure-fire way to win a debate.


67 posted on 10/24/2007 5:26:08 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
"debate"

Do we have a winner? Is it delusional?

68 posted on 10/24/2007 5:32:06 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

As long as all you care about is trashing Ron Paul and are willing to throw any actual consideration of “original intent” Constitutional principles on the fire to help you the “winners” will be the liberal bureaucratic establishment in DC. They’re going to love this idea that once you accept any part of a government regulatory scheme you have to accept all of it. By that standard, they can pretty much take over what little of our lives they don’t already control and you’ll be right there helping it along.


69 posted on 10/24/2007 5:49:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: drpix
Here's his [Thomas's] real record on federal drug regulation. ... Don't sound like he's reading Ron Paul's "Constitution"

Pardon me, but you're rather confused here. The case you cite has nothing to do with Constitutional Law. That case doesn't do anything but construe the statute. Thomas gives no hint of his opinion on federal drug regulation in that case. If you want to understand Thomas's record on the matter, you need to read his opinions in the commerce clause cases. That's where the meat is, not in the case you cited.

70 posted on 10/24/2007 5:55:43 AM PDT by Sandy
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The attorneys for OCBC brought up the Constitutional Issues (including Commerce Clause) in briefs before the Supremes and earlier before the Ninth, but Thomas declined to consider it. He could have, but he choose the Conservative rather than radical "constitutionalist" approach.

Let Thomas continue to merely construe drug statutes Leftist and Libertarians say he really considers unconstitutional - but he declines address - and the drug war can continue...Thank You Very Much!

71 posted on 10/24/2007 6:36:47 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

The drug war can continue, right along with socialized medicine. There’s no reason they can’t control every other aspect of your health care by the same rule. Thank you very much, you ignorant fool.


72 posted on 10/24/2007 6:48:17 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: drpix
but Thomas declined to consider it. He could have

No, he could *not* have considered it. The statute is unambiguous. Playing let's-pretend-we-can't-read-plain-English would have been unjustified.

73 posted on 10/24/2007 6:58:02 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: drpix
Let Thomas continue to merely construe drug statutes Leftist and Libertarians say he really considers unconstitutional - but he declines address - and the drug war can continue...Thank You Very Much!

What are you talking about? The drug war will continue because Americans want the federal government controlling their lives. Justice Thomas has no say in the matter.

74 posted on 10/24/2007 7:07:44 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: IrishMike
The battle for the courts will be determined in the Republican primary. A candidate must be elected that has the will and can be trusted to nominate judges like Robert Bork to the courts.

If Giuliani wins the nomination, then issue is lost and we're looking at liberal judges for at least eight years.

75 posted on 10/24/2007 9:19:43 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky

If Giuliani wins the nomination, then issue is lost and we’re looking at liberal judges for at least eight years.
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Being a NYer, I’ve seen enough of Rootie Tootie.
Hopefully we’ll get Fred’s nominations for 8 years !


76 posted on 10/25/2007 3:50:59 AM PDT by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: Sandy

“The drug war will continue because Americans want the federal government controlling their lives.”

Only those Americans who favor big wasteful government programs.


77 posted on 01/04/2012 9:59:52 PM PST by running_dog_lackey
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