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Great Britain: Production of Show Boat is sunk after race row over 'blacked-up' actors
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | October 23, 2007

Posted on 10/23/2007 5:29:14 PM PDT by Stoat

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Last night Nash Thakker, a 41-year-old regeneration manager in the nearby town of Millom, said: "I'm glad it's gone. The play itself was derogatory to black people and has no place in modern society.

Well gee, the 1951 movie adaptation of it won an Oscar and was nominated for two more.

Show Boat (1951)

"It's ridiculous," she said. "We're a small town, there aren't any black actors here."

Rationales based upon logic and reason are irrelevant in matters of racial politics.

1 posted on 10/23/2007 5:29:16 PM PDT by Stoat
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"...less offensive phrases such as 'coloured folk'"

Here's a news flash for the Grange and District Amateur Operatic Society -- that is just as offensive.

2 posted on 10/23/2007 5:31:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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“The play itself was derogatory to black people and has no place in modern society.”

It was a milestone in Broadway history, and the “offended” have no business censoring it.


3 posted on 10/23/2007 5:35:14 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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I’m offended by lots of movies. I simply don’t go to see them.


4 posted on 10/23/2007 5:36:57 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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Looking beyond the surface arguments, which are all pretty weak, it's worth noting that Oscar Hammerstein's father was from a "nonpracticing Jewish family" ~ as they put it in his biography.

Given the way anti-semitism is sweeping Europe these days, it's inescapable that the this relationship is far more important than the blackness or whiteness of the actors.

5 posted on 10/23/2007 5:44:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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They’d probably still complain if they used an all-white cast without blackening any of the black characters.

“Showboat” tends to bring out the closet racists.


6 posted on 10/23/2007 5:47:24 PM PDT by period end of story (I have a bird that whistles, and I have birds that sing.)
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Last night Nash Thakker, a 41-year-old regeneration manager in the nearby town of Millom, said: "I'm glad it's gone. The play itself was derogatory to black people and has no place in modern society.

I bet this fool is just fine with rap music that depicts black people as greedy gangsters, whores and degenerates.

And BTW, what the hell is a "regeneration manager" anyway? That sounds like a fancy name for a loafer.

7 posted on 10/23/2007 5:48:59 PM PDT by Argus
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“The play itself was derogatory to black people and has no place in modern society.”

It was a milestone in Broadway history, and the “offended” have no business censoring it.

I’m offended by lots of movies. I simply don’t go to see them.

Excellent points all.

Wasn't there a movie just a few years ago that featured two famous black actors putting on 'whiteface' makeup and dressing as women?

I didn't see it because it appeared to be yet another movie that would rob me of two hours of my life that I would never get back, but I would never dream of demanding that such a movie be barred from production in any way.

8 posted on 10/23/2007 5:51:02 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: muawiyah
Looking beyond the surface arguments, which are all pretty weak, it's worth noting that Oscar Hammerstein's father was from a "nonpracticing Jewish family" ~ as they put it in his biography.

Given the way anti-semitism is sweeping Europe these days, it's inescapable that the this relationship is far more important than the blackness or whiteness of the actors.

That may indeed be a factor in this matter and I appreciate your bringing it up.  Killing the production for 'racial' reasons allows the anti-Semites to have their way without coming out of the shadows, although the breadth and scope of anti-Semitism in Europe is breathtaking and severely troubling in its brazenness and cancerous metastasis as well.

9 posted on 10/23/2007 6:03:23 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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They’d probably still complain if they used an all-white cast without blackening any of the black characters.

“Showboat” tends to bring out the closet racists.

I'm sure that you're right.

 

10 posted on 10/23/2007 6:05:13 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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“Well gee, the 1951 movie adaptation of it won an Oscar and was nominated for two more.”

I don’t recall the ‘n’ word being in any of those songs!


11 posted on 10/23/2007 6:07:47 PM PDT by texpat72 (<><)
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Maybe the stage play had different music than the movie.


12 posted on 10/23/2007 6:10:27 PM PDT by texpat72 (<><)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe in some places, but there are still places in North Carolina where if you refer to someone as “black” you’ll offend them.


13 posted on 10/23/2007 6:11:31 PM PDT by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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there are still places in North Carolina where if you refer to someone as “black” you’ll offend them.

What have you found to be the 'preferred' designation?

14 posted on 10/23/2007 6:15:56 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Last night Nash Thakker, a 41-year-old regeneration manager in the nearby town of Millom, said: "I'm glad it's gone. The play itself was derogatory to black people and has no place in modern society.

I bet this fool is just fine with rap music that depicts black people as greedy gangsters, whores and degenerates.

And he would likely be shouting "RACISM!" if anyone were to ever openly suggest taking steps to clean up the rap 'culture' that is so very destructive to a very large part of society.

And BTW, what the hell is a "regeneration manager" anyway? That sounds like a fancy name for a loafer.

LMAO!

From a superficial and admittedly minimal search it appear to be a 'resource manager' for a given region or area.  This is probably one of those job descriptions that is so loosely defined that in practice it ends up being precisely as you suggest   :-)

15 posted on 10/23/2007 6:19:42 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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They’d be better off just putting on the show as written. It is a fine musical with great songs. It actually condemns racism and racists (particularly those who oppose interracial marriages) as an important plot element.


16 posted on 10/23/2007 6:21:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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bump


17 posted on 10/23/2007 6:27:19 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Stoat

Today Monty Python would be off the air after one episode - they did gay jokes and used black face etc.

The Thought and Speech Police continue to make strides...


18 posted on 10/23/2007 6:29:18 PM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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To: Stoat
You think Rogers & Hammerstein are becoming a touchy subject? Try being a Jolson fan, as I am. (Today is the 57th anniversary of his death.)

I judge each individual person upon his or her own merits, but when dealing with groups of people I am forced by Reality to make certain assumptions based upon experience. With that understood, I wish black people would stop being so touchy and defensive over stuff like this. Yes, 400 years of slavery and all that, but every ethnic group was oppressed at some point by somebody. Imagine if we German-Americans freaked out every time a Hogan's Heroes rerun came on.

19 posted on 10/23/2007 6:30:05 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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The original cast also included the brilliant African-American actor, Paul Robeson.


20 posted on 10/23/2007 6:40:07 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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