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Media myths about the Jena 6 (A local journalist tells the story you haven't heard)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | October 24, 2007 | Craig Franklin

Posted on 10/23/2007 10:58:14 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189
If you're expecting the MSM to ever become friends of conservatives or to report the truth fairly, you'll be waiting for Godot, my friends.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

61 posted on 10/24/2007 8:09:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rocky
Just like the Duke case, if we just wait, the truth eventually comes out.

We can't afford to wait. The socialists won the Jena 6 round. The damage has been done and this one article changes nothing. We need to expose these hoaxes more quickly and relentlessly. I was on every Jena 6 thread from the get-go arguing that this was a socialist hoax. Many FReepers called me a racist etc. Where were you?

62 posted on 10/24/2007 8:12:55 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Rocky
Unfortunately, as the article says, the media does not apologize for their biased reporting. They just move on.

Drive-by media. Rush nailed that one perfectly.

63 posted on 10/24/2007 8:14:57 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rmlew
Don't people understand that if they don't get the facts out early the race-baiters will define the issue?

A non-sequitur IMO. The media not only control the facts that are presented but they ARE the race-baiters. Current American journalism is mostly an excercise in partisan propaganda and spin.

64 posted on 10/24/2007 8:34:13 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Gondring
Does anyone think that all those FReepers are pushing for a socialistic world order? Obviously not...

Well yes, as a matter of fact that is exactly what I think which is why that is exactly what I said. Funny how that works, huh?

Whether those FReepers who advance socialistic world government do so unwittingly is immaterial. Ignorance is no excuse. Many FReepers were on the Jena threads repeating the socialist line. I called them out explicitly from day one and yet many of them persisted in their error with great energy and self-righteous indignation.

...which illustrates why so many in the media reported the what they did...because of poor (lazy) primary reporting and the propagation of the partial story that was available at first. It wasn't any idea of dividing America or other nonsense...it was that the reporters on the scene believed the race-baiters out of laziness and stupidity and the great story it made, and the downstream papers had nothing else upon which they could rely.

It is my belief that you could not be more wrong. I believe that anyone who cannot see the socialist agenda behind the reporting on race in this country is ignorant and foolish. It is well documented here on FR. There simply is no excuse for your continued unreason.

As Bernard Goldberg pointed out in Bias, there's no organized conspiracy among all the journalists out there. There are left-leaning tendencies of individuals, and low enough salaries that you don't get many highly logical or investigatory-minded recruits, so the net effect is one of bias, even if it's not organized.

This is tendentious nonsense. You think you are being intelligent and wise but really you are spouting off crap. You here claim that there is no "organised" socialist agenda, merely a disorganized one. Yet above you said there is no socialist agenda at all. Well, which it it?

65 posted on 10/24/2007 8:37:07 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: DoughtyOne
As a former editor, I recognize the diffference between the primary reporting and the downstream propagation of the story. I have to remind myself that many don't have that division in their mind.

If you read my previous comment, you'll see that I am not suggesting the posters or the editors across the country were lazy...I'm blaming it on the primary reporting.

And, as I also said, there's a tendency for reporters to have inherent bias, poor logic skills, etc., all of which contribute to the story being a conduit for the race-baiters (rather than a well researched story).

As for the FReepers holding opinions after hearing the facts, well, that's a different story. I can't speak to that.

66 posted on 10/24/2007 8:42:01 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Some of these folks had to have had some sort of vested interest in propigating the theory that racism must be a factor, or they were just shockingly unable to reason.

They have been conditioned into this unreason. They have been taught to crave the thrill of sanctimony and belonging. Southern white racists are the new witches.

67 posted on 10/24/2007 8:42:12 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
finally another poster sees the same thing that I do.

Please join me in calling this out wherever you see it, especially here on FR.

68 posted on 10/24/2007 8:44:17 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: robertpaulsen
"When a student asked during an assembly at the start of school last year if anyone could sit under the tree"

This doesn't pass the smell test.

Of course it doesn't, and it never did. I called this very nonsense out the moment it first appeared on FR and got called a racist for doing so. Some people just enjoy hating "Southern white racists" too much to let their own reason spoil the party.

69 posted on 10/24/2007 8:47:53 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
The race baiters were trying to stop the GOP from taking the governor slot in LA. This is why we heard about this non-issue.
70 posted on 10/24/2007 8:56:05 AM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: bmwcyle

Yes and the irony is that a first generation immigrant son from India won in a huge landslide.


71 posted on 10/24/2007 8:59:14 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: rogue yam
Misinterpreting my question and misquoting will get you nowhere. I did not say a noose was a symbol in the south, i said the symbolism of nooses in the south, and it is hard for me to believe that there are kids who don't know about this. We learned about it in school.
72 posted on 10/24/2007 9:00:44 AM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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To: CajunConservative

Thank God!


73 posted on 10/24/2007 9:02:21 AM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: CajunConservative

74 posted on 10/24/2007 9:03:49 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: robertpaulsen
One time. That tree. The next day. Pure coincidence. And it wasn't aimed at blacks. And none of the boys had a clue that nooses were racist. In Louisiana.

Your clue is right in front of you in your own words. "Nooses are racist." Who told you this and why did they tell you this? How can you be so sure that everyone "knows" that "nooses are racist"?

"In Louisiana." Well, say no more, right? Those people are ignorant, racist troglodytes. Not at all like you! Racist, racist, racist! (Feels good to say it, no?)

Oh by the way, how 'bout that Bobby Jindal?

From the article:

"An investigation by school officials, police, and an FBI agent revealed the true motivation behind the placing of two nooses in the tree the day after the assembly. According to the expulsion committee, the crudely constructed nooses were not aimed at black students."

So all these folks are stupid, racist and wrong and you know this simply because they are "in Louisiana" and "nooses are racist". That's some mighty fine detective work there, Sherlock.

75 posted on 10/24/2007 9:06:10 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: robertpaulsen
"Well, we have the MSM account. We have this one. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle."

I tend to agree. I think it's probably a few trouble-makers (racist or not) that fueled this episode, and the ever-opportunistic leftist media pounced on the incident and blew it all out of proportion. Which is pretty much what the leftist media does with every issue that makes whites, and especially white Republicans, look bad.

76 posted on 10/24/2007 9:10:49 AM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Califreak
I always thought they promoted racism so the whole country wouldn’t unite in anger against the people in power who are screwing everybody regardless of race, religion or economic staus.

I believe that there are fundamental disagreements among those with wealth and power. I believe that they don't all want the same things. For example, I believe that there are important differences between Dick Cheney and George Soros, two men of great wealth and power. Now, Karl Marx would tell you that there are not such differences between Cheney and Soros, and I think George Soros wants you to agree with Karl Marx on this, which apparently you do. Please reconsider.

77 posted on 10/24/2007 9:14:51 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: longtermmemmory
I strongly suspect this is another tawana brawly case.

It is certainly a hoax but it has not yet been exposed as such to most Americans.

78 posted on 10/24/2007 9:16:20 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Theresawithanh
Misinterpreting my question and misquoting will get you nowhere. I did not say a noose was a symbol in the south, i said the symbolism of nooses in the south, and it is hard for me to believe that there are kids who don't know about this. We learned about it in school.

You are babbling foolishly. What exactly did you learn in school?

79 posted on 10/24/2007 9:21:45 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Islander7

Isn’t that the truth. lol


80 posted on 10/24/2007 9:25:58 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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