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Iran to Buy 24 Jet Fighters from China
Ha'aretz ^ | October 24, 2007

Posted on 10/24/2007 5:46:32 PM PDT by nuconvert

Iran to Buy 24 Jet Fighters from China

October 24, 2007

Ha'aretz

Yossi Melman

Iran has signed a deal with China to buy two squadrons of J-10 fighter planes that are based on Israeli technology, the Russian news agency Novosti reported yesterday. The 24 aircraft are based on technology and components provided to China by Israel following the cancellation of the Lavi project in the mid-1980s. The engines of the J-10 are Russian-made.

The total cost of the planes is estimated at $1 billion, and deliveries are expected between 2008 and 2010.

The estimated operational range of the aircraft, with external fuel tanks, is 3,000 kilometers, which means Israel falls within their radius of operation.

During the 1980s, Israel Aircraft Industries, along with U.S. firms, developed a multi-role aircraft that was considered the most advanced of its type at the time.

Following the development of a prototype, the Reagan administration stopped funding, bringing about the cancellation of the joint project.

Israel then began selling some of the systems it had developed to various countries, including China.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; aviation; china; chinesemilitary; iran; j10; jets; redjihad

1 posted on 10/24/2007 5:46:33 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

Thats the Wong Wei to do things...........


2 posted on 10/24/2007 5:47:59 PM PDT by cmsgop (Hillary's Milkshake is better than Your's, She could teach you, but you would rather go blind.......)
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To: nuconvert
Image hosted by Photobucket.com sow the wind...
3 posted on 10/24/2007 5:48:24 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: nuconvert

If it’s any consolation, the joysticks are made of melamine.


4 posted on 10/24/2007 5:49:00 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: nuconvert

They might have bought 24 now, but they will be hungry again in 30 minutes.


5 posted on 10/24/2007 5:50:28 PM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: nuconvert
In other words Iran will be using Israeli Lavi made in China to bomb Israel? What goes around comes around.
6 posted on 10/24/2007 5:51:48 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: nuconvert

It should take the Israeli Air Force about 10 minutes to shoot them down when “zero hour” arrives.


7 posted on 10/24/2007 5:52:03 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: nuconvert

Ejection seats, standard equipment... canopy release optional.


8 posted on 10/24/2007 5:53:24 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: martin_fierro

and everything’s covered in lead paint


9 posted on 10/24/2007 5:54:28 PM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: nuconvert

Should be easy pickens.


10 posted on 10/24/2007 5:58:35 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: cmsgop

Target practice/road kill. China knows how to offload useless inventory.


11 posted on 10/24/2007 6:08:54 PM PDT by Marcusofboston (marcusofboston)
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To: Brilliant

The quality of pilots is probably more important. I have no idea about how good pilots are in Iran. Typically, arab countries have had good planes and bad pilots (ie not enough training, independent thinking and IQ).

These planes should not be a serious threat for some time, but never underestimate the enemy. Arab countries can lose a war as they always get to attempt it again, but a defeat for Israel would be permanent.


12 posted on 10/24/2007 6:11:36 PM PDT by nordicstan
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To: narby

The Lavi is the basis for the new Chinese jet.

13 posted on 10/24/2007 6:22:24 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: nuconvert

USS Liberty.


14 posted on 10/24/2007 6:31:58 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: Gengis Khan
So are we supposed to feel sorry for Israel? I know I don’t. They will be expecting American’s to die for their mistakes defending them because they are special, or chosen, or what ever exclusive word they prefer. I don’t know what the word is, but I know it isn’t “accountable”.
15 posted on 10/24/2007 6:33:10 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Jet Jaguar

So where did my original post to you about this go???


16 posted on 10/24/2007 6:33:56 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

The Mod locked the thread (duplicate) and pointed to this thread.


17 posted on 10/24/2007 6:36:15 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Oh. I see. Thought I was imagining things.....


18 posted on 10/24/2007 6:37:25 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

LOL


19 posted on 10/24/2007 6:37:47 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Natural Law

Actually, I suspect they have backed down on previous occasions simply to appease the U.S.


20 posted on 10/24/2007 6:56:13 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Jet Jaguar
That looks a lot like the F-16XL


21 posted on 10/24/2007 6:58:14 PM PDT by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: nuconvert
"Iran to Buy 24 Jet Fighters from China"

Hopefully they'll end up being recalled because of faulty parts.

22 posted on 10/24/2007 7:06:41 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace; Natural Law

So now how should Israel react to this (i.e Iran using Israeli designed weapon on Israel itself)?


23 posted on 10/24/2007 7:08:58 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: nuconvert

Target Practice


24 posted on 10/24/2007 7:20:03 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: nuconvert

Iran has signed a deal with China to buy two squadrons of J-10 fighter planes. The total cost of the planes is estimated at $1 billion, and deliveries are expected between 2008 and 2010.

Assuming Iran still exists.


25 posted on 10/24/2007 7:26:00 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: nuconvert
I think the key point of the article is that Reagan stopped funding...

Probably another of the many wise decisions of Ronald Reagan.

I guess some F117s, F22s and F35s might use these as target practice one day...

26 posted on 10/24/2007 7:46:17 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The Lavi is the basis for the new Chinese jet.

Doesn't look so very much like it. Except the basic shape.

J-10

Lavi

Engine inlet different, vertical stabilizer different. Nose shape appears a little different too.

Shares basic design with Saab Grippen and French Rafale also except that they have twin engiens and somewhat different intacks because of it.


27 posted on 10/24/2007 9:08:27 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Kevmo
Target Practice

The latest X-box release. Hit Tehran and you win the game!


28 posted on 10/24/2007 9:18:34 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: nuconvert

At least the paint is lethal!


29 posted on 10/24/2007 9:45:02 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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US to speed up F-35 stealth fighter delivery to Israel
The Jerusalem Post | Oct 25, 2007 | YAAKOV KATZ
Posted on 10/25/2007 1:47:36 AM EDT by sukhoi-30mki
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1916048/posts


30 posted on 10/25/2007 12:06:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Jet Jaguar
You mean that the J-10 is based on the Lavi. A lot of technology went to China via Israel. Here is a J-10 carrying copies of Israeli Python air-air missiles. The technology shared enabled China to produce copies of the missile.


31 posted on 10/25/2007 1:38:18 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

Jet Jaguar, Ignore this bit of my post. ‘You mean that the J-10 is based on the Lavi’


32 posted on 10/25/2007 1:39:53 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: nuconvert
What's Persian for "Chinese Quality Fade" or for extra credit: "Chinese crap"?
33 posted on 10/25/2007 1:57:14 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: nuconvert

It’s yet another dodgy news story. How many of these types of news stories have emerged and bore no fruition. Pakistan will be the first export customer for the J-10.

China denies reports it will sell fighter jets to Iran

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...ghter-Jets.php

China denies reports it will sell fighter jets to Iran
The Associated Press Published: October 25, 2007

BEIJING: China denied Thursday published reports it had agreed to sell its homegrown fighter jets to Iran, saying no talks had taken place.

Reports in Russian and Israeli media said Iran had signed a deal with China to purchase two dozen of its home-designed fighter jets known as the J-10, which could signal greater military cooperation between the countries at a time of continued tension between Iran and the West over its nuclear program.

“It’s not true, it is an irresponsible report,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao told reporters. “China has not had talks with Iran on J-10 jets.”

Chinese state media revealed at the end of last year that the Chinese air force was equipped with a new generation of the J-10 fighter plane.

Ties between China and Iran are largely absent of the tensions between that country and the West, and it remains an important oil supplier to feed China’s growing economy.

The J-10 has been in development since the late 1980s, according to Global Security, and has utilized Russian technology.

The Russian news reports said the planes would be delivered starting next year, and the contract could be worth US$1 billion (€700 million).


34 posted on 10/25/2007 5:01:36 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

“China denies reports it will sell fighter jets to Iran”

May be true, maybe not. Who knows? I don’t expect the truth to necessarily come out of China. Do you?


35 posted on 10/25/2007 5:10:09 AM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: nuconvert

A spokesperson for China’s Foreign Ministry just denied the report in a weekly news conference.

He said there has been no discussion between Iran and China regarding J-10 purchases.


36 posted on 10/25/2007 12:38:12 PM PDT by YaoYiNBA
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To: YaoYiNBA

Please see post #35


37 posted on 10/25/2007 12:44:29 PM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: nuconvert

Gee, maybe the Iranians will die from lead poisoning.


38 posted on 10/25/2007 12:45:32 PM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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To: nuconvert
Iran to Buy 24 Jet Fighters from China..

...that was built with the U.S. technology that the Clintons sold to them, no doubt.

Another Clinton scandal, perhaps?

39 posted on 10/25/2007 4:32:26 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: nuconvert

It is a case of journalists getting it wrong yet again.

The sale of J-10s from China to Iran would have to appear on the U.N. arms register. China would have to declare the sale and the numbers sold.


40 posted on 11/03/2007 2:02:09 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Gay State Conservative

When they get F-22I Israeli Raptors.

[img src=”http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2112/1891950591_3c79075202_o.jpg";]

IRIAF Chengdu J-10 = IAF Raptor food!


41 posted on 02/10/2009 6:14:32 PM PST by myknowledge (Nothing beats Australia's F-22EMA Raptor)
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