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Parents of fat children to be given a warning
Times of London Online ^ | October 22, 2007 | Francis Elliot

Posted on 10/24/2007 6:30:40 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi

Parents of 5-year-olds are to be sent official warning letters if their child is found to be obese, as part of a national programme to weigh children in schools.

Ministers are bracing themselves for charges that they will stigmatise fat children when they publish proposals next month to tackle rising levels of obesity, The Times has learnt.

Alan Johnson, the Health Secretary, is understood to have been persuaded that it is in children’s best interest if their weight is brought formally to the attention of their parents.

The routine weighing of primary school pupils was reintroduced in England and Wales two years ago in response to obesity fears. The National Child Measurement programme aims to collect data on every child twice, when they start school and when they leave. Parents of 5 and 10-year-olds can request the measurements but are not informed automatically, even if the child is severely overweight.

The weighing programme was criticised after its first year when ministers admitted that participation levels had been so low that the statistics were all but useless.

Rates for the past year, however, are much improved, with measurements for almost a million children collected and every primary care trust in England and Wales taking part. From the next school year parents will be encouraged to request measurements and will be directed to a new website helping them to calculate how much their children should weigh.

Mr Johnson is preparing to go farther and insist that all parents are sent the information as a matter of course. He toughened his stance last week in a Commons statement on a report that gave warning that 60 per cent of men, 50 per cent of women and 26 per cent of children and young people would be obese by 2050, based on current trends.

The Foresight report laid bare the life-threatening consequences for children growing up fat, predicting a 70 per cent rise in type 2 diabetes, 30 per cent in strokes and a 20 per cent rise in coronary disease. The heightened risk of such conditions is estimated to reduce life expectancy by as much as 13 years.

A recent report by the Commons Health Select Committee went even further, suggesting that a generation of children would die before their parents if obesity was not addressed. The report envisaged a doomsday scenario where thousands would lose limbs and sight.

Mr Johnson said that children would continue to be the focus the national obesity plan when he announced it last week. “More than 80 per cent of obese 10 to 14-year-olds remain obese into adulthood,” he said.

Professor Sir Albert Aynsley-Green, the independent advocate for children, said last year that telling parents their children were too fat “risks stigmatising those who are overweight”.

But in a sign of shifting attitudes, the Office of the Children’s Commissioner said last night that obesity was rising so fast it would give the measure a cautious welcome.

Claire Phillips, its policy director, said: “Our concern is that parents are given help in the form of a package of support to help them make the necessary changes to lifestyle.”

A Department of Health spokesman said: “The programme is a vital part of engaging with children and families about healthy lifestyles and weight issues. We need to take this farther and help parents to understand the importance of healthy weight for their family.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: childhoodobesity; children; fat; government; nannystate; obese
Coming to a school near you.........
1 posted on 10/24/2007 6:30:43 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

The solution is to abolish socialized medicine in Great Britain. Then obesity will only be a problem for the obese child, which is as it should be.


2 posted on 10/24/2007 6:50:00 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
They should take two charts - one measuring the increase in obesity in the past 20 years and one measuring the use of High Fructose Corn Syrup in sodas, candies, juices, gum, etc etc.
Put the 2 charts together and they might find they only need one chart.

If they’re really concerned about obesity = publish the truth about this and other sugar substitutes in these foods...and educate the public about...but why do that when they have another excuse to go after parents?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2004/02/18/FDGS24VKMH1.DTL

the main reason manufacturers switched to HFCO is it’s high shelf life - lasts longer on the super market shelves, more money - always follow the money

3 posted on 10/24/2007 6:50:38 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Dear Parent:
Our records show that due to your incompetence, lack of intelligence or neglect your five year old is a fat a$$. Perhaps, you are a fat a$$ as well but we believe you kid would be better severed if you fed him a vegetable or two and did not let fat boy sit in front of the TV chomping down on Oreos 12 hours a day.
4 posted on 10/24/2007 6:56:38 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: Erik Latranyi

well they can simply say that if the parents don’t do anything about the obesity, their kids will just be denied government health care and must turn to private sector.


5 posted on 10/24/2007 7:02:31 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: maine-iac7

sugar is still sugar and the brits always had a problem with too much of it.
A visitor to England in 1598 said of the sixty-four-year-old Queen Elizabeth that her “teeth [were] black, a defect the English seem subject to from their too great use of sugar.”


6 posted on 10/24/2007 7:06:37 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: ari-freedom

Glad you brought up the subject of the poor dental condition of the English. I predict - there will be no cries of racism or bigotry from Anglo-American FReepers for our innate sense of superiority and confidence - requires a few bum spankings once in a while -it keeps us humble.

Now you can start spanking the Jews, the Irish, the French, the Scots, the Hispanics, the Asians and the Africans. Go ahead;)


7 posted on 10/24/2007 7:16:43 PM PDT by sodpoodle (When you can't handle the truth...............try satire.)
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To: sodpoodle

no don’t go there. This is just what happens when you eat too much sugar and the Brits just happen to like it more than other groups.


8 posted on 10/24/2007 7:42:25 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: popdonnelly

An earlier post/thread mentioned that Brittain’s NHS is recommending pregnant women give birth at home with midwives. It turns out that hospitals can’t afford birthing facilities and needs. I wonder if they’ve figured out that there’s no cash for anything?


9 posted on 10/24/2007 7:46:41 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Tempus Fidget - The time between the final hymn and recessional.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Are they next going to send people official notice that they’re stupid?


10 posted on 10/24/2007 7:50:40 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Erik Latranyi

Well, there should be no more complaining about the Norman Conquest from 1066. William didn’t screw Great Britain over half as bad as Great Britain has done herself.


11 posted on 10/24/2007 7:52:17 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: ari-freedom

Dentistry has made great strides since 1598. Even in Britain!


12 posted on 10/24/2007 8:14:44 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (hillery-rotten & her flying-monkeys in 08? OVER MY DEAD BODY, WitCh™!!)
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To: Fudd Fan

not by much
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1628122/posts


13 posted on 10/24/2007 8:23:28 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: ari-freedom

A few others left already .......


14 posted on 10/24/2007 8:34:34 PM PDT by sodpoodle (When you can't handle the truth...............try satire.)
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To: ari-freedom

Well at least I can know that I come by my dental troubles honestly.


16 posted on 10/24/2007 8:58:45 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (hillery-rotten & her flying-monkeys in 08? OVER MY DEAD BODY, WitCh™!!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Ministers are bracing themselves for charges that they will stigmatize fat children when they publish proposals next month

And how many of the ministers and other various FAT adult government employees will similarly be warned and/or punished for being obese?

This crap that they pester children with that they would never subject their own fat asses to INFURIATES me.

17 posted on 10/24/2007 9:03:06 PM PDT by Lizavetta ( Politicians: When they're speaking, they're lying - when they're not speaking, they're stealing.)
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To: popdonnelly

This is just another step in the Facism of the Socialists of England.

soon they will be telling you where to work, what to eat, what to think,what to say.....

you gutless brits have all lost your Clackers.

Limey Bitches all.

Oh,.. and Nice dental work.


18 posted on 10/24/2007 9:07:58 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Erik Latranyi
It’s just about time to irradiate this island.
19 posted on 10/24/2007 9:09:39 PM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Drip by drip, the Total Control/Total Surveillance State is coming.
20 posted on 10/24/2007 9:16:17 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: trumandogz

Or:

Dear Parent of Fat Boy:

Your kid is fat.

Solution: Bran Recipes :: Recipes like Bran Muffins Recipes, All Bran Bread

We are here to help.
FAT POLICE


21 posted on 10/24/2007 9:57:08 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The Foresight report laid bare the life-threatening consequences for children growing up fat, predicting a 70 per cent rise in type 2 diabetes, 30 per cent in strokes and a 20 per cent rise in coronary disease. The heightened risk of such conditions is estimated to reduce life expectancy by as much as 13 years.

What a flaming bunch of hypocrites liberals are! If they really cared about public health then they wouldn't be taking children out of foster care for the sole reason that they wouldn't promote homosexuality to an 11 yr old boy...even though the medical findings are very clear that homosexuals have a SIGNIFICANTLY shorter lifespan due to their homosexual lifestyle...typically dying somewhere in their 40's.

22 posted on 10/24/2007 11:37:47 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Erik Latranyi

When I see an obese 5 year old (in the US) they usually look like a smaller version of their obese parent or sometimes both parents.


23 posted on 10/24/2007 11:46:56 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Sometimes yes, but obesity is measured in ways that are not accurate. If they use the BMI, then many children will be labeled obese that are perfectly healthy, leading to more eating disorders and teasing.

Take this example (my son):
13-year old boy
5’ 11”, 220 pounds
BP 110/70

Yes ... by BMI he’s obese. But his body fat is only 11%. He’s very active ... 2.5-3 hours of sports every day of the week. So when the school in health class weighed everyone and had them figure out their BMI and what “class” they fell in ... he was “obese”, and all the kids knew it. In no way does he need to lose weight, or change his diet or exercise program.

When the smoking Nazis started to run out of smokers, they became obesity Nazis. You must comply to their statistics and methods ... the truth and consequences be damned.


24 posted on 10/25/2007 12:34:14 AM PDT by lkco
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To: lkco
I think we are both talking about genetics. Some people carry more body fat than others and you can see whole families that have exactly the same look from childhood through old age. Maybe they all do eat too many starches but they aren’t ever going to be lean hard people without starving themselves and who wants to go through life starving.

As far as your son, he sounds like he is going to be a big man and lots of boys go through a chubby stage just before puberty. Girls will be coming into his life soon and I’ll bet he sheds the extra pounds.

25 posted on 10/25/2007 5:53:17 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: taxesareforever
There is this perspective ala Freakazoid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S0OgucjDC4

26 posted on 12/11/2008 6:10:58 PM PST by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Dear Sir or Madam

“Please either put your child on a diet or have him/her branded.”


27 posted on 12/11/2008 6:15:44 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: RichInOC
“Please either put your child on a diet or have him/her branded.”

How long will it take for that to be:

"Dear Sir or Madam:

Please re-educate your child about global warming, homosexuality, and the benefits of higher taxes or he will be sent to a state school for remedial education."

28 posted on 12/12/2008 1:47:15 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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