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FBI raid shutters Medicare insurer (WellCare - formerly owned by George Soros)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 10/25/07 | Kris Hundley

Posted on 10/25/2007 7:52:37 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: All; wagglebee
But lest we forget, and think the leftists pushing embryonic stem cell research are now trumped, we err in presumption. The leftists were not about research to do good in the first place, but about an excuse to kill at will. They will be neither convinced nor ready to go quietly.

The scientist who helped ignite cultural and political controversy with the use of embryos in stem-cell research believes his new discovery – using ordinary adult skin cells – means the war is virtually over. "A decade from now, this will be just a funny historical footnote," James A. Thomson told the New York Times in an interview.

Thomson's laboratory at the University of Wisconsin was one of two that announced Tuesday a new way to turn ordinary human skin cells into what appear to be embryonic stem cells without using a human embryo.

The technique involves adding four genes to ordinary adult skin cells.

Scientist who ignited stem-cell war says it's over

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401 posted on 11/25/2007 5:09:08 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; EternalVigilance
Invaluable insight in this thread by Eternal Vigilance...

When I saw a column written by pro-life activist Jane Frantz in the Appleton Post-Crescent, it really took the wind out of my sails. She wrote about her epiphany in the pro-life movement following her own abortion, but she pointed out something that reminded me of the reasons why pro-lifers continue to tread water politically.

Frantz opined, "After three and a half decades, I wonder how much longer we can afford to do the same things, expecting different results."

Her observations about pro-lifers "authoring and defending woefully inadequate legislation" is but one of the problems we face on the political front, but I happen to think that it is precisely the politics of abortion that has drummed our message into oblivion.

~Snip~

A new strategy is called for; and to my mind, those who resist talking about it are the root cause of the problem. To them I would say: Get off the fence and join the battle to end the murder of America's future. The troops are moving out — with you, or without you.

(my bold)

Strategy for success evades pro-lifers

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402 posted on 11/25/2007 6:04:11 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; 8mmMauser

I hope the religious right does their own research rather than follow their “leaders.”


403 posted on 11/25/2007 12:27:25 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

On Fox News Sunday, FT insulted New York (didn’t specify state or city) and he accused Fox News of having it in for him. George Stupidopolis did not exactly apologize about Terri Schiavo. What he did was CONTINUE THE LIES that we already knew. (Face the Nation)


404 posted on 11/25/2007 2:50:41 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Fox bias against Fred?

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/thompson-charges-fox-news-is-biased-against-his-campaign-2007-11-25.html

I don't think so.

405 posted on 11/25/2007 3:16:16 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Florida Statute 765.309

Mercy Killing or euthanasia not authorized. (1) Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to condone, authorize, or approve mercy killing or euthanasia, or to permit any affirmative or deliberate act or omission to end life other than to permit the natural process of dying.


406 posted on 11/25/2007 3:50:24 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: wagglebee
"The more government gets involved in healthcare, the more corrupt it will become."

And the higher the costs will be.

407 posted on 11/25/2007 3:54:49 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yep, you look at the portion of the government expenses that go to health care in countries with socialized medicine and it is huge. If the government paid the highest insurance premium rates for private coverage for each person or family in their respective state of residence, it would be far less expensive than ANYTHING that the government can come up with. The ONLY thing Washington seems to be able to do consistently is to at least triple the cost of what something should be.


408 posted on 11/25/2007 4:05:59 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1686729,00.html


409 posted on 11/25/2007 9:33:45 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
CBS...

They just can't help themselves, just have to start anything possibly positive by qualifying it and denigrating it with a bald faced lie. Hitler would have been impressed.

CBS) Two years ago, Terri Schiavo sparked a nationwide debate when she was removed from a feeding tube. Schiavo was in a permanent vegetative state with no chance of recovery. But there are as many as 300,000 other Americans who have survived brain injuries, only to be trapped in what's called a "minimally conscious state." They can't talk, walk, or eat, but they retain more mental awareness than vegetative patients.

For decades now, minimally conscious people have been all but written off by the medical establishment, warehoused in nursing homes, with little hope of recovery. But as CNN's Anderson Cooper reports, incredible new discoveries are changing the way doctors view these people.

Awakenings: Return To Life

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410 posted on 11/26/2007 3:23:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Fred and Terri tar baby dailies...

They just won't let it rest! In this case, another projection. Turkeys call people they hate turkeys, stuff the lefties gobble up.

By emphasizing Thompson’s political potential, the anti-abortion group played down its own differences with Thompson, according to the Associated Press. An AP story out of Washington said: “Thompson has been at odds with the group because he doesn’t support a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion, a long-standing party platform plank; because he has called the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case a family matter; and because he backed campaign finance regulations that the group considers a restriction of free speech.”

~Snip~

In a recent interview, he also said Schiavo, the brain-damaged Florida woman who was allowed to die by a court in ’05, at the request of her husband, should have been kept alive.

Gray Panthers hand out annual Turkey Awards

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411 posted on 11/26/2007 3:36:12 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife
The Colorado Right to Life people set the standards for the rest of us. It was written up in Time. This is their latest, taken from the post by Lesforlife above.

If Colorado for Equal Rights for Human Life and other anti-abortion groups can wrangle 76,000 signatures in the next six months, theirs could be the first state in the nation to vote on whether a fertilized egg should legally be considered a person. Despite resistance from abortion-rights groups, the Colorado Supreme Court on November 13 approved the ballot measure — 40 years after Colorado became the first state to relax abortion laws — giving a boost to a conservative political movement that has worked doggedly for decades to overturn Roe v. Wade. Colorado Right to Life spokesman Bob Enyart says, "Embryos are living human beings with eternal souls and spirits. You just have to refrain from killing one to see what a precious child it is."...........................

Should Fertilized Eggs Have Rights?

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412 posted on 11/26/2007 3:43:59 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; paltz; narses
The thread by paltz shows an amazing example of embracing cognitive dissonance, attempting to cuddle two divergent views side by side and love them both. In this case, it is the Texas Supreme Court with this simple approach, cognitive dissonance for dummies. Thanks, narses, for the ping. If it is a fetus, what the heck, if mom wants to kill it, fine. Call it a baby and it becomes murder. Yup, I guess I have it straight now.

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Texas laws allow the killing of a fetus to be prosecuted as murder, regardless of the fetus' stage of development, but they do not apply to abortions, the state's highest criminal court has ruled...............

Texas Court: Fetus Death Can Be Murder

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413 posted on 11/26/2007 4:05:21 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: MountainFlower

Ping to #413 above.


414 posted on 11/26/2007 4:09:41 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

BUMP


415 posted on 11/26/2007 6:42:40 AM PST by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser
I caught a little bit of sixty minutes last night. Anderson Cooper shows more interest in brain damage than the other talking heads. I hope this means he got some Terri questions for the you tube debate Wednesday. How could Anderson Cooper come to Pinellas County where history was made on the back of an innocent woman and her loving family and not mention it?

Well, at least Cooper does research, not just blather on like George Stupidopolous for the party of death, largely the democrat party.

416 posted on 11/26/2007 4:24:47 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: Lesforlife; BykrBayb; Sun; 8mmMauser; Dante3; cyn; amdgmary; Theodore R.
It's so hot here right now, the CNN crew will be sweating like pigs and the candidates will be running from their air conditioned limos to the buildings. "Never let 'em see you sweat".

I hope they do sweat a little bit during the debate Wednesday night. Somebody's gonna surge way ahead after St. Pete. It's time for someone to break away... imo.

If you see a dork with white hair in the front row, that's our governor. He wants to build a baseball stadium, another one while people are moving out and can't afford taxes, insurance, gasoline and other costs of living. Who's going to be able to afford to attend a Rays' game when people can't feed their families? or, pay for a new stadium? They still owe over 100 Million on the current stadium.

417 posted on 11/26/2007 4:42:08 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser
By the way, the Marine who's in a coma after an August crash with Hulk Hogan's son had his guardianship hearing today.

His guardianship judge was a woman, not George Greer. (I wonder if sometimes people are REJECTING Judge Greer and getting to take the woman judge instead). I certainly would reject him. His orders are killers.

418 posted on 11/26/2007 4:44:49 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Marine John Graziano remains in coma at James Haley VA Center in Tampa.

and, Hulk Hogan (Bollea) and his wife are getting a divorce. Linda filed in Pinellas via Beverly Hills. She wants half of everything. (and, John Graziano will be suing them both for lifetime nursing care. Of course, we pray that JG improves but his stem cell was mangled and he's totally on machines. His mother has custody and they're getting an independent guardian for him.

I assumed the guardianship hrg was in Pinellas but if JG is in Tampa, maybe the guardianship will be handled by a Hillsborough judge. I haven't paralegaled for awhile. I'd have to think about venue. These are the times I miss t'wit. He'd have the answer.

419 posted on 11/26/2007 4:50:44 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: All; 8mmMauser

MSM kept telling the lie, that Terri was PVS, when he was NOT. I heard it every hour, or more, on the radio.

And too much of the American public bought the lie - they gave in to the brainwashing.

Now I’m seeing MSM repeatedly making it sound like the race is between Hillary and Rudy, tweedle dee, and tweedle dum. I hope the American public doesn’t give in to the brainwashing again.


420 posted on 11/26/2007 5:09:19 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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