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FBI raid shutters Medicare insurer (WellCare - formerly owned by George Soros)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 10/25/07 | Kris Hundley

Posted on 10/25/2007 7:52:37 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: floriduh voter; 8mmMauser; Lesforlife; Sun; wagglebee; Salvation
OK Senator Coburn Deficit worse than abortion. (here we go again morally equivocating). Had those babies lived, they'd be paying taxes to be blunt.

Had we not slaughtered an entire generation of 50 million babies, we would have no use for illegal aliens and Social Security would not be bordering on collapse.

But I agree that government spending is also out of control, so how about cutting all spending except defense by at least 25% and banning abortion.

151 posted on 11/02/2007 9:16:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: floriduh voter

“Senator Coburn Deficit worse than abortion.”

Do these people even have a heart?


152 posted on 11/02/2007 5:28:00 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
More about T'wit, Tim Wheeler...

Dr. Campbell sent us a note saying the tribute to Tim is now posted on their website in mp3. At the website click on Bill Campbell:

Dedication of Meeting to Tim Wheeler

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153 posted on 11/03/2007 3:50:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
A perspective from Garry Wills...

The first (awakening) in the 19th century, was a self-starting religiosity, didn’t depend on government. It was entirely self-financed, self-organized, self-supporting, so it had more life in it I think than the other ones. What broke it up was slavery.

In the 20th century ... the government was a bigger part of everyone’s life. So (evangelicals) tried to use the government to ban the sale of alcohol for instance, or ban the delivery of mail on Sunday or ban the teaching of evolution in school. When that happens, people get a little wary because of our tradition of separation of church and state. It’s more upsetting to a lot people, so that didn’t last as long.

The current one, I think, is running out of steam in about 10 years. You can see it running out of steam in the reaction to the Terri Schiavo case; the changed attitude towards gays; the growth of evangelical movement to protect the environment.

Enlightened and evangelical are cyclical, author says

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154 posted on 11/03/2007 3:55:49 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Bobby Schindler will be in Kansas City...

"The Legacy of Terri Schiavo," presented by her brother, Bobby Schindler, 7 p.m. Nov. 11 at the Kansas City Downtown Library, 14 W. 10th St., Kansas City. $15 in advance. Register online at www.respectlifemissouri.org, or call Carrie at (816) 756-1850.

The Legacy of Terri Schiavo

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155 posted on 11/03/2007 3:59:48 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Sun
Mor on Rudy!

Big Rudy surprise, well, sort of, in a thread by Sun.

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New York, NY (LifeNews.com) -- Over the last several months, pro-abortion Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani has made adoption a hallmark of his campaign. He says adoption is his plan to combat abortions as president and that he reduced abortions as mayor, but a college professor says his archives show Giuliani never pushed it.

If Giuliani had an aggressive plan to reduce abortions in New York City -- long considered the abortion capital of America because it has more abortions than most states -- Fordham University political science professor Bruce Berg has never seen it.

That's surprising considering Berg has DVD copies of every mayoral news conference in the city dating back to 1996.

"They don't exist," Berg told the St. Petersburg Times of potential news conferences showing former Mayor Giuliani touting adoption over abortion.

In August, Giuliani made adoption one of his "12 Commitments to the American People" and claimed to have promoted it enough that it lowered abortions in the Big Apple..............

Rudy Giuliani's Mayoral Backing of Adoption Over Abortion Never Existed

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156 posted on 11/03/2007 4:10:43 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Good news with adult stem cells in a thread by wagglebee...

Irvine, CA (LifeNews.com) -- A new study by researchers at the University of California, Irvine finds another advance in the use of adult stem cells. In this case, researchers used the stem cells from the brain of a mouse to restore memory following a brain injury.

The team used the neural stem cells to protect existing cells that were still healthy following the injury and to restore neuronal connections that had been damaged.

Adult Stem Cell Research May Lead to Treatments for Brain Injuries, Disease

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157 posted on 11/03/2007 4:20:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; Lesforlife
Thanks for the t'wit mp3.

Meanwhile, over in the UK where socialized medicine rules the day, a little miracle.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=491443&in_page_id=1770

As Terri Schinder Schiavo once said, "Where there's hope, there's life." (Judge Greer threw that quote out after he tampered with her words).

158 posted on 11/03/2007 8:10:13 AM PDT by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: wagglebee
www.sptimes.com

Wellcare announces in Saturday's edition that they have initiated an internal investigation. Interesting...

159 posted on 11/03/2007 8:11:22 AM PDT by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: wagglebee; 8mmMauser; Sun; Dante3; amdgmary; Saundra Duffy; EternalVigilance; Salvation; cyn; ...

As illustrated at World Net Daily. I didn't do the url cuz it's to their shop.

No doubt Terri's in this one. I think I'll get this one.

160 posted on 11/03/2007 8:24:24 AM PDT by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: 8mmMauser

You have FM.


161 posted on 11/03/2007 8:27:32 AM PDT by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: 8mmMauser; Lesforlife
Little guy on the right alive and well.

The Daily Mail photo

162 posted on 11/03/2007 8:37:14 AM PDT by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: floriduh voter

Sounds like an improtant and interesting book.


163 posted on 11/03/2007 9:46:37 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

Re: post 156.

I read a post by one of the FReepers (forgot the name) that this was what happened, so I was glad to find a link and story about it.


164 posted on 11/03/2007 10:54:37 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Wills and Living... Well, not quite.

Previously I mentioned Garry Wills, and here is another non-viable tissue from his works, appearing in the LA Times, of all places. So, I must keep to a tiny extract. I encourage reading the whole thing at the link, though, if anyone seeks to understand Garry Wills more than I would. The title says enough.

Whether through serendipity or through some sort of causal connection, it now seems that the onset of a functioning central nervous system with a functioning cerebral cortex and the onset of viability occur around the same time -- the end of the second trimester, a time by which 99% of all abortions have already occurred.

Opponents of abortion like to show sonograms of the fetus reacting to stimuli. But all living cells have electric and automatic reactions. These are like the reactions of Terri Schiavo when she was in a permanent vegetative state. Aquinas, following Aristotle, called the early stage of fetal development vegetative life. The fetus has a face long before it has a brain. It has animation before it has a command center to be aware of its movements or to experience any reaction as pain.

Abortion isn't a religious issue

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165 posted on 11/04/2007 2:43:01 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Thread by wagglebee on abortion in England: Some hope?

Having recently celebrated the life and work of William Wilberforce, some religious leaders have called abortion-on-demand the 'new slavery'; the human rights issue that will define our generation's place in history.

It is forty years since abortion became legal in Britain.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, has warned that abortion is increasingly being seen as the easy option for women, perhaps just another form of contraception. In the process, he says, British people risk losing sight of the sanctity of life.

Abortion – This generation’s ‘slavery’

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166 posted on 11/04/2007 2:54:23 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Interestingly, this topic reaches the theme of a conference and perhaps some media... Thread by wagglebee.

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The ongoing Medical Ethics and Holocaust lecture series hosted a teleconference discussion in the Applied Computational Engineering and Sciences building Tuesday to discuss the history of genocide and people with disabilities.

The lecture was broadcast live on the Internet from the Holocaust Museum of Houston and included panelists from the University of Houston, the Baylor College of Medicine and Independent Living Research Utilization, a disabilities research and consultation firm .

Bill Monroe, an English professor and dean at the University of Houston, discussed the idea of perfection through literature, citing examples from a 1960s comic book.

"Eugenics, euthanasia and extermination were extremes taken to eliminate the 'imperfections' throughout history," Monroe said.

Lecture series discusses history of disabilities in relation to genocide

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167 posted on 11/04/2007 3:01:49 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
A mantra couples with a euthanasia euphemism...

Thread by wagglebee.

A national debate on balancing the right to life with skyrocketing health-care costs could endanger services for the elderly and fuel demands to legalize euthanasia, some experts say

. Dr. Robert Cushman, CEO of the Champlain Local Health Integration Network in eastern Ontario, stirred a hornet's nest this week with a call for a serious debate on the right to die with dignity as a matter of public policy.

Health costs intrude in right-to-die debate

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168 posted on 11/04/2007 3:07:25 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Daffynition; wagglebee; floriduh voter
This must peeve Planned Parenthood powerfully...

Thread by Daffynition on the remarkable story of one kid who beat the abortionists at their own game. Thanks, wagglebee, for the ping.

When doctors found that Gabriel was weaker than his brother, with an enlarged heart,and believed he was going to die in the womb, his mother Rebecca Jones had to make a heartbreaking decision.

Doctors told her his death could cause his twin brother to die too before they were born, and that it would be better to end Gabriel's suffering sooner rather than later.

Mrs Jones decided to let doctors operate to terminate Gabriel's life.

We're twinseparable! Happy with his brother, the boy who refused to die

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169 posted on 11/04/2007 3:15:08 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; wagglebee; Sun; BykrBayb; amdgmary; Dante3; Lesforlife
MEET THE PRESS TODAY Fred Thompson said "pull the feeding tubes" or "pull the feeding tube."

That's as deep as he goes in matters of life and death.

FRED THOMPSON IS BEYOND IGNORANT.

He said the only comparison between his daughter's death and Terri's was they were both END OF LIFE matters. No, they are not! Terri was not dying but she was MURDERED.

Fred Thompson would be a good candidate for MICHAEL SCHIAVO to support. No, on FRED. He's a bioethicker and no friend of the disabled.

And, on abortion, he can only relate to it as far as his four year old daughter. Fred cannot deal with issues unless he personalizes them and that's not leadership. He's ONE DIMENSIONAL and better keep his acting gig.

170 posted on 11/04/2007 11:13:24 AM PST by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: All

Bump for life, from conception to natural death.


171 posted on 11/04/2007 11:40:36 AM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

Why doesn’t anybody ever talk about protecting the disabled and the seniors? It’s about machines and tubes.


172 posted on 11/04/2007 11:46:29 AM PST by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Medicaid reform will DISALLOW the hiding or moving of assets to prevent patients from being put in nursing homes under Medicaid.

I believe in Terri's case it still qualified as MEDICAID FRAUD cuz the placement at Hostage Woodside was for FIVE YEARS, not six months or less.

This may stop future HINOS from laundering their wives' rehab monies to death profiteering lawyers. You know their names.

www.judgegeorgegreer.com and www.michaelschiavo.org

(this should be in the news but I am multi-tasking today. See www.sptimes.com keyword: Medicaid.

Unscrupulous relatives, stop it!!!

173 posted on 11/04/2007 12:45:46 PM PST by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: bjs1779; Dante3; Saundra Duffy; amdgmary; Halls

Medicaid tightens eligibility standards or just window dressing? I think they’re just covering their tracks again for all the fraud, not just about Terri’s inhumane case. See my last.


174 posted on 11/04/2007 12:50:23 PM PST by floriduh voter (You can roll horse manure in powdered sugar but it doesn't make it a doughnut.)
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To: floriduh voter

there is medicaid fraud all the time and the govt knows all about it. They don’t care. We gave them the power and they brought in socialism. It is a catastrophe!


175 posted on 11/04/2007 1:23:45 PM PST by Halls (I hate illegals, I hate socialism, I hate liberals! What else can I say?)
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To: Halls

I think they do these fbi raids sometime to illustrate that the system works. hah! It works well for the insurance companies and hmo’s who overbill, make up doctor visits and modalities, and also give illegal aliens benefits.


176 posted on 11/04/2007 7:10:17 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Some Terri marathons/runs next year and other items of interest re: the TSSF Mission Statement.

http://www.wordonwheels.org/

177 posted on 11/04/2007 7:18:14 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser; Lesforlife
Check out this event schedule for Terri's bikers. She had bikers from early on.

March 18, 2008 marks the beginning of the Terri Schiavo Memorial Run which will depart from Durango, Colorado to the final destination of St. Petersburg, Florida on March 31, 2008; home of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation. This run will have 20+ stops along the way to visit the Harley-Davidson Dealerships "en route" (promoting awareness of the TSMR), and allowing for minor services, if needed (oil changes, batteries, plugs, etc.). There will be 3 scheduled major "hook-up" stops, to join up with the riders who are registered to meet us at any one of those three pre-determined stops.

178 posted on 11/04/2007 7:21:23 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: All

Man assaulted at peanut festival put on life support ~ http://www.dothaneagle.com/gulfcoasteast/dea/local_news.apx.-content-articles-DEA-2007-11-04-0024.html .

Mike Cowherd is 60 years old, has a severe head injury, and isn’t expected to recover. What are the odds that his respirator will be turned off before he starts breathing on his own?


179 posted on 11/04/2007 10:50:13 PM PST by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Now here is an event to watch or attend!

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Event features Alan Keyes, Rev. Frank Pavone, Christopher West, Joan (Andrews) Bell -- Randall Terry to hold two day training seminar for college students.

 

Contact: Mario Saint Francis, Operation Rescue XX Event, 202-439-2600

 

PHILADELPHIA, Oct. 29 /Christian Newswire/ -- This November 23 and 24, Randall Terry and other pro-life leaders plan to hold an event in Philadelphia to coincide with the twentieth anniversary of the first abortion clinic sit-ins by Operation rescue.  The event will include meetings and activist training held at the Philadelphia Convention Center.

 

Photo: A 1987 abortion clinic sit-in. These sit-ins were often referred to as "Rescues"

 

To announce the event to the media Randall Terry will hold a news conference in Philadelphia on Tuesday, October 30.  Mark Harrington, founder of the Genocide Awareness Project, who will also be on site with their traveling photo-mural exhibit which compares the contemporary genocide of abortion to historically recognized forms of genocide.

 

News Conference Details---

 

When: Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 2:00 pm

 

Where:  Temple University's Bell Tower located at 13th Street and W. Berks Street, Philadelphia

 

Who:  Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue; Mark Harrington, founder of the Genocide Awareness Project

 

Why: to discuss 2 days of training and protests. Mr. Terry will answer questions concerning civil disobedience in Philadelphia, and the months ahead.

 

"Our mission is to unleash a new generation of activists and leaders, who will create the tension necessary to put abortion front and center in this years political races." -- Randall Terry, Founder, Operation Rescue

 

"The 20th anniversary celebration of Operation Rescue has the potential of being a New Pentecost for the pro-life movement." -- Fr. Frank Pavone, National Director of Priests for Life and President of the National Pro-life Religious Council

News Conference -- Operation Rescue to Hold 20th Anniversary Event in Philadelphia

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180 posted on 11/05/2007 3:21:37 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Fred and Terri tar baby dailies...This from NRO!

That voice is fatherly, reassuring, calm. The contrast to Hillary couldn’t be sharper.

I’m going to say ‘well-briefed,’ but I know that will just spur one of the Thompson Associates to call me to tell me that’s not a sign of others briefing him, that’s a sign of Thompson’s own reading and study of the issues.

I was about to say that he was almost too conversational, that he could have used one quip or pithy summation at his views, and then, finally, at the tail end of his question on Schiavo, he summed up, “the less government, the better.”

When Fred Met Tim: Evaluating Thompson on Meet The Press

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181 posted on 11/05/2007 3:30:48 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Dying to address the topic, in a thread by wagglebee:

The day will come. It may be 50 years from today or it could be next month but the day will arrive when you are sitting in a doctor’s office or lying in a hospital bed, when you’ll hear the words, “There’s little we can do for you. We will try to control your pain as much as possible.

“You are dying.”

You may already be picturing your last days and hours — at home, in your own bed, surrounded by your loved ones, free of pain, ready to go. But that vision is wishful thinking. Most of us will draw our last breath in a hospital bed. Some of us will die alone, while many will be lost in a medicated fog.

Genetic counselling and in vitro fertilization has revolutionized how life begins. Now many think Canada is overdue for an honest public debate about how life ends.

Debating euthanasia

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182 posted on 11/05/2007 3:37:28 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Euthanasia: Those who know, don't say. Those who say, don't know.

The worst possible thing that could happen would be for euthanasia to be legalized.

No physician has ever been convicted of a crime for administering morphine to someone in pain at the end of their life. Never.

And Kervorkian was sent to prison.

Everything works fine.

183 posted on 11/05/2007 3:43:06 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: All; Canticle_of_Deborah; bjs1779; narses
Fred and Terri tar baby dailies in a thread of their own by Canticle_of_Deborah:

Fred Thompson told Tim Russert on NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday that he DOES NOT support a Human Life amendment. That position is part of the GOP platform. Here’s what the 2004 GOP platform says:

"We must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the 14th Amendment's protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions." Here’s what Thompson said about it lifted from today’s Meet The Press transcript:

Fred Thompson says "No" to Human Life Amendment

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184 posted on 11/05/2007 3:44:29 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Abortion isn't a religious issue

Someone tell this to the pro-aborts. They should stop insisting that opposition to abortion is completely based on religious belief.

Some of us oppose abortion because we believe that human conception results in a new human being (or multiple human beings). Human beings deserve protection at any stage of life.

185 posted on 11/05/2007 7:14:31 AM PST by syriacus (30,000 Americans died in 30 months in Korea under Truman, to RE-WIN SK's freedom.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Dino Delaurentis’ relative, the chef, is expecting. I believe I was watching The Today Show and they showed the baby’s sonograms on NBC in various stages of development. I was shocked. Is NBC promoting life now or just chefs who are pg?


186 posted on 11/05/2007 12:24:33 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: BykrBayb

Poor Mike Cowherd. If they ship him to a hospice, he’s toast. While healing takes time, assaults only take a few seconds.


187 posted on 11/05/2007 12:26:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Evaluating Thompson: That article you linked to failed to mention Fred Thompson say, "Pull the feeding tube(s)."

So, I'd still like to know who's, when and where?

Fred Thompson fails biology with an "F". If we have a health crisis, God forbid, he'd get another "F".

188 posted on 11/05/2007 12:29:59 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Debating euthanasia.

My advice is to get a long term care health plan where the insured gets to select their options for care. The worst thing is to end up having to forfeit everything to be stuck somewhere under Medicaid.

With staffing shortages, you can bet your last dollar, more people pass away on the weekends.

(and they aren't kept clean either).

Floridians need to have a plan or they'll be sorry. No, I don't sell long term care insurance but I strongly recommend it for Floridians so you can select where you want to be if you are unable to care for yourself.

Don't end up at Medicaid's mercy. Medicaid's good for the poor and the young but not for the elderly. That's my opinion. FV

189 posted on 11/05/2007 12:35:03 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: wagglebee

See my last re: your Dying to address thread.


190 posted on 11/05/2007 12:35:55 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: Sun

Wondrin’ if you like my new tag line. It sums everything up, ya think?


191 posted on 11/05/2007 12:36:45 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: Republic; amdgmary; BykrBayb; bjs1779

ping


192 posted on 11/05/2007 2:03:01 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser; All

THIS THREAD IS TERRI DAILIES News Digest for NOVEMBER, 2007. It’s the recognized FR anti-euthanasia category.


193 posted on 11/05/2007 2:06:01 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: syriacus
Someone tell this to the pro-aborts. They should stop insisting that opposition to abortion is completely based on religious belief.

There is nothing wrong that you say that, believe me.

194 posted on 11/05/2007 5:58:33 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: floriduh voter

You tag line nails it. And Chris Wallace, and various reporters, prove it.


195 posted on 11/05/2007 6:58:31 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: All; floriduh voter; 8mmMauser; wagglebee; Sun; bjs1779

Okay, everybody act surprised now.


http://www.wthitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7316704&nav=menu593_2

Cowherd died yesterday afternoon after his brother told hospital staff to take him off life support.


196 posted on 11/05/2007 8:06:47 PM PST by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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To: BykrBayb

Prayers for all concerned.

I wonder what the life support was in this case.


197 posted on 11/05/2007 9:19:06 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Sun

Another article said it took 15 minutes for him to die after being removed from life support. That sounds to me like suffocation.


198 posted on 11/05/2007 9:33:33 PM PST by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ )
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Sighhhh.... Why we must persevere,


199 posted on 11/06/2007 3:52:51 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Fred Thompson today...

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Fred Thompson said in an interview on Sunday that he does not support the Republican Party's platform advocating a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution that would afford legal protection to unborn children and ban abortions. Thompson also reconfirmed he supports overturning the Roe v. Wade case that allowed abortions.

In an interview with Tim Russert on NBC's "Meet the Press" television program, Russert read Thompson the language of the GOP's pro-life platform.

He asked the Republican presidential hopeful, "Could you run as a candidate on that platform, promising a human life amendment banning all abortions?"

"No," Thompson replied. "No. I have always—and that’s been my position the entire time I've been in politics."...................

Fred Thompson Doesn't Back Amendment Banning Abortions, Wants Roe Reversed

8mm


200 posted on 11/06/2007 4:06:10 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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