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2007 Christmas Stamps (Vanity)
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Posted on 10/25/2007 11:48:44 AM PDT by lilylangtree

The Postal Service announced the new 2007 Christmas stamp "The Madonna of the Carnation" for Catholics. Also, the USPS came out with the Christmas stamps commemorating the Muslim holiday of EID (Sep 28). Plus, USPS will release stamps recognizing Kwanzaa and Hanukkah (Oct 26). And for those in the "none of the above" category, the Holiday Knits stamps series will be available as of today.

I commend the Postal Service for its political correctness. However, as a Christian that believes in Jesus Christ, where is the Christmas stamp to represent the Christian belief?

Has our country moved so far away from its Christian foundation that we must now ask "where is our representation"?


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Do any other freepers believe that we are being slighted?
1 posted on 10/25/2007 11:48:45 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: lilylangtree

Jesus is a bit too politically incorrect.


2 posted on 10/25/2007 11:51:19 AM PDT by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: lilylangtree

What? Cathlolics aren’t Christians?!


3 posted on 10/25/2007 11:51:26 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: lilylangtree

It has become ingrained in our liberal institutions that we will pander to the false religions and intentionally ignore the Creator. Honestly, are there that many Muslims in this country, and those who are here, are they clamoring for a postage stamp?


4 posted on 10/25/2007 11:51:29 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: lilylangtree

Aren’t Catholics considered Christian?


5 posted on 10/25/2007 11:52:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: lilylangtree

Looks Christian to me.

6 posted on 10/25/2007 11:52:42 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: lilylangtree

Correction...the Madonna stamp is “Madonna and child” - this seems to reflect a bit of a Catholic perspective, but I don’t see it as exclusively Catholic. And I’m not sure I feel the need to be validated by an organization that honors Kwanzaa and Eid.


7 posted on 10/25/2007 11:53:49 AM PDT by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: lilylangtree
However, as a Christian that believes in Jesus Christ, where is the Christmas stamp to represent the Christian belief?

Huh? What's wrong with the stamp of Mary and Jesus? That's the type of stamp the Post Office usually uses for its religious Christmas stamp. Also, I like Luini's paintings so I'm pleased with this year's selection.

8 posted on 10/25/2007 11:53:52 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: lilylangtree
Not me.
where is the Christmas stamp to represent the Christian belief?

Catholics aren't Christians?

9 posted on 10/25/2007 11:53:52 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: lilylangtree

I believe the stamp designers are of the opinion that the mortal mother of Jesus, having been arbitrarily elevated to the rank of co-redemptrix, is a wholly adequate and appropriate symbol of Christmas. I do not use Madonna stamps.


10 posted on 10/25/2007 11:54:01 AM PDT by Elsiejay (,)
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To: lilylangtree

....Yeah, need MORE commercialization!!!

Only two more months of:

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken


11 posted on 10/25/2007 11:54:19 AM PDT by dakine
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To: lilylangtree

Aw crap...correction again, that was from 2005, apparently. Your link is busted though.


12 posted on 10/25/2007 11:54:34 AM PDT by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: lilylangtree

“stamps recognizing Kwanzaa...”

Why is the postal service putting out a stamp for a made up holiday with no basis in anything factual and that was invented by a criminal?


13 posted on 10/25/2007 11:54:50 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Elsiejay

I won’t use a stamp with Jesus on it unless he looks like a hippie.


14 posted on 10/25/2007 11:54:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: lilylangtree
I don't think "The Madonna of the Carnation" is just for Catholics. I mean, speaking as a Southern Baptist, when I look at it I feel like it is a picture depicting my religious heritage as well.


15 posted on 10/25/2007 11:55:30 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: lilylangtree
I used to work as a USPS window clerk in an area with very few Catholics and I don’t remember any of the Protestants who wanted religious themed Christmas stamps being slighted by the Madonna stamps. They seemed quite satisfied with the stamps.
16 posted on 10/25/2007 11:55:33 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: xjcsa

http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2007stamps/downloadcenter.htm


17 posted on 10/25/2007 11:56:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Elsiejay

Neither do I.


18 posted on 10/25/2007 11:56:38 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Bogtrotter52
Why is the postal service putting out a stamp for a made up holiday with no basis in anything factual and that was invented by a criminal?

Hey, if we want to get technical, Jesus was a criminal too. : )

19 posted on 10/25/2007 11:57:05 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Tamar1973
What? Cathlolics aren’t Christians?!

Not to the blind nor the obtuse, apparently.

I guess some people object to a portrayal of Christ's mother to be inappropriate for a holiday that commemorates His birth. You'd think that even the blind and the obtuse would be able to understand the connection between a mother and a birth.

20 posted on 10/25/2007 11:57:41 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: AppyPappy

LOL! In Catholic school we were told that are Christian’s. Did somebody change something and forget to tell us?:)


21 posted on 10/25/2007 11:57:53 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Ron Paul is nutcase, plain & simple.)
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To: lilylangtree

Ummm, what’s wrong with babay Jesus and Mary for Christmas? I don’t understand.


22 posted on 10/25/2007 11:58:21 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: lilylangtree
Mary and the infant Jesus are pretty much standard fare for Christmas, for Catholics and Protestants alike. There are plenty of Protestant painters and engravers from the Renaissance who portrayed similar scenes.

For instance, here's one by Albrecht Durer:


23 posted on 10/25/2007 11:58:37 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Elsiejay

I believe you could stand to lower your caffeine intake...


24 posted on 10/25/2007 11:59:04 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: gracesdad

You know, they don’t look very Jewish? European painters always depicted the Christ Child and his followers and family as white when they were in the Middle East.


25 posted on 10/25/2007 11:59:34 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: Elsiejay

You don’t like a stamp that portrays baby Jesus and is symbolic of his birth? Weird.


26 posted on 10/25/2007 11:59:46 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: highball; AppyPappy; Tamar1973

While I do disagree with them, many evangelicals do not consider Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc. to be Christians.


27 posted on 10/25/2007 12:00:04 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: lilylangtree

Why not?


28 posted on 10/25/2007 12:00:23 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Elsiejay
I do not use Madonna stamps.

Oh well, at least Jesus loved His Mother.

29 posted on 10/25/2007 12:00:44 PM PDT by pbear8 (Padre Pio please pray for Tony Snow)
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To: ladtx
Looks Christian to me.

It also looks like a thirty-nine cent stamp. When are we supposed to use this?

30 posted on 10/25/2007 12:01:23 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: dakine

Re your post # 11 - that Mencken quote would make a great tag line . . . .


31 posted on 10/25/2007 12:01:34 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Hey, if we want to get technical, Jesus was a criminal too.

No, actually Jesus was a wholly Innocent person who was falsely accused and was sentenced to die as a criminal, but He Himself committed no crime.

32 posted on 10/25/2007 12:01:55 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Tamar1973

What? Christians don’t revere the Virgin Mary?


33 posted on 10/25/2007 12:01:56 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: FreePaul
It also looks like a thirty-nine cent stamp. When are we supposed to use this?

The USPS site has the new and improved 41 cent version. That way baby Jesus doesn't have to reach out towards some two cent Navajo Jewelry.

34 posted on 10/25/2007 12:02:54 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: xjcsa

>>>And I’m not sure I feel the need to be validated by an organization that honors Kwanzaa and Eid.

Mega dittos.


35 posted on 10/25/2007 12:03:24 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (A dyslexic, agnostic insomniac asks, "Is there a doG?")
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To: Obadiah
No, actually Jesus was a wholly Innocent person who was falsely accused and was sentenced to die as a criminal, but He Himself committed no crime.

He was a convicted criminal sentenced to the death penalty. Whether he was fairly convicted or not is a different matter.

36 posted on 10/25/2007 12:03:47 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: lilylangtree

Ummm, you are obviously being sarcastic because the stamp that I see has a picture of Jesus and Mary. I THINK that is what Christmas is all about. Right? The birth of Jesus?


37 posted on 10/25/2007 12:04:25 PM PDT by It's me
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To: lilylangtree
"Also, the USPS came out with the Christmas stamps commemorating the Muslim holiday of EID (Sep 28)."

Not to pick nits, but a stamp aimed at islam is hardly a Christmas stamp.

"I commend the Postal Service for its political correctness."

Why commend it for political correctness? PC is killing this country ... rapidly.

Has our country moved so far away from its Christian foundation that we must now ask "where is our representation"?

The country has not, meaning we the people, but those in charge of putting things out in public (the media, marketing guys, government) are so afraid to offend someone that they stay away from anything considered Christian. That is the political correctness that you seem to think is a good thing.

38 posted on 10/25/2007 12:04:32 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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So I guess we’ve got 2 more months of some Freepers finding silly things to feel slighted about concerning Christmas.

Me, I’m going to count REAL carols versus secular holiday songs on the local radio station to make sure they play enough carols.


39 posted on 10/25/2007 12:04:59 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: FreePaul
When you can't find this one.


40 posted on 10/25/2007 12:05:02 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: gridlock
What? Christians don’t revere the Virgin Mary?

Well, evangelicals don't much. She was the mother of our Lord . . . but that is all she is seen as. No different from other true believers in the Bible.

41 posted on 10/25/2007 12:05:31 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: lilylangtree
Do any other freepers believe that we are being slighted?

What would you want on a Christmas stamp to keep from being slighted?

42 posted on 10/25/2007 12:06:43 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: AppyPappy
Aren’t Catholics considered Christian?

I was also confused the first time I heard someone separate Catholics from Christians.

I believe that Evangelicals do not consider Catholics to be Christian.

I once had an Evangelical tell me that Mother Teresa was not going to heaven because she hadn't been "born again". I responded that if Mother Teresa wasn't getting in, the rest of us have no chance at all.

43 posted on 10/25/2007 12:06:57 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Well, evangelicals don't much. She was the mother of our Lord . . . but that is all she is seen as.

OK. That's fine. So what is the problem here.

My wife is in a lot of my daughter's baby pictures, too.

44 posted on 10/25/2007 12:07:07 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gracesdad
So I guess we’ve got 2 more months of some Freepers finding silly things to feel slighted about concerning Christmas.

*sigh* Unfortunately so. And let's not forget O'Reilly pandering to them.

45 posted on 10/25/2007 12:07:21 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Elsiejay
I believe the stamp designers are of the opinion that the mortal mother of Jesus, having been arbitrarily elevated to the rank of co-redemptrix, is a wholly adequate and appropriate symbol of Christmas.

What in Hades are you talking about? That infant Jesus would look kinda funny sitting up on His own, wouldn't He?

46 posted on 10/25/2007 12:07:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“The country has not, meaning we the people, but those in charge of putting things out in public (the media, marketing guys, government) are so afraid to offend someone that they stay away from anything considered Christian.”

Baby Jesus and Mary on a stanmp is staying away from everything Christian? I had no idea that imagery had become secular. When did that happen?


47 posted on 10/25/2007 12:07:39 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: ladtx

How come the stamp shows $.39 when it should be $ .41 ?


48 posted on 10/25/2007 12:08:21 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: gridlock
OK. That's fine. So what is the problem here. My wife is in a lot of my daughter's baby pictures, too.

Oh, I agree! Speaking as a Southern Baptist, I have NO problems with this picture. I mean, after all, I'm pretty sure that Mary was there for the original Christmas Day! haha!

49 posted on 10/25/2007 12:09:07 PM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Renegade

See post #40.


50 posted on 10/25/2007 12:09:08 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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