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SENATE REPUBLICANS MAY SINK BUSH'S U.N. SEA TREATY
GOPUSA ^ | October 25, 2007 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 10/25/2007 11:54:57 AM PDT by processing please hold

Can the U.N.'s Law of the Sea Treaty not only be delayed but defeated outright in the Senate? That's the question that conservatives are delightfully pondering as a remarkable series of events has put the pact, supported by the Bush Administration and the liberal leadership in the Senate, in serious jeopardy. Perhaps the most significant development is the announcement by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell that he will oppose the White House and vote against the treaty.

As opponents of the treaty make their case in advertisements and on cable TV and talk radio, Republican senators are increasingly hearing from their constituents that they don't want the treaty ratified because it will undermine American sovereignty and hand more power over to the United Nations.

In the same way that the people prevailed in the Senate in the matter of defeating the illegal alien amnesty bill, it is entirely possible that the U.N. power grab known officially as the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) could be rejected.

The views of the American people were on the minds of the top Republican senators who participated in a dramatic news conference in the Senate Press Gallery on Wednesday, on the occasion of United Nations Day, to declare that they would actively oppose the treaty and defeat it on the Senate floor.

"If you want a U.N. on steroids, you want the Law of the Sea Treaty," Senator Trent Lott (Miss.) declared at the news conference. Lott is the Senate Republican Whip, his party's number two leadership position.

"There aren't the votes to pass it," Senator Jon Kyl (Ariz.), stated confidently. If it is brought to the Senate floor, he warned, the American people would send a "resounding" message of "no" to the chamber. Kyl is chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, directs the communications operations of Senate Republicans, and is the third-ranking member of the Republican Leadership.

They were joined by Senators Jim DeMint (S.C.), John Ensign (Nev.), Jeff Sessions (Ala.), and James Inhofe (Okla.). Ensign serves as chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

The Numbers

Since a treaty requires 67 votes for passage, only 34 votes are required to kill it. Most, if not all, of the Senate Democrats are expected to vote for it. So the big question has been how many Republicans could be counted on to follow the White House/State Department line and vote for the treaty. Senator Richard Lugar (Ind.), the ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has been a big promoter of the pact for years. He is usually fawned over by the liberal media as a foreign policy expert.

But the treaty has been hurt by its affiliation with a world body widely known for its corrupt practices and scandals, including rapes of women and children by its "peacekeepers." In this context, another late-breaking development has been the revelation that a former top official of the treaty organization known as the International Seabed Authority (ISA) has documentary evidence of corruption by top officials of the entity and is willing to share it with the Senate. Nithi Sam-Thambiah told this columnist that he has documents proving mismanagement of the ISA and improper payments to the ISA Secretary-General and other officials.

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The GOP senators' press event came on the same day that a full-page ad was published in the Washington Times, sponsored by the Coalition to Preserve American Sovereignty and my own America's Survival, Inc., featuring an enlarged picture of the U.N. building above the New York City skyline under the big bold headline, "Do you want a U.N. on steroids?" Citing controversial provisions of the treaty, as well as President Reagan's rejection of the pact, the ad argued for the defeat of UNCLOS by the U.S. Senate. It also urged people to call their Senators to oppose the pact by calling a toll-free number to the Capitol switchboard 1-800-828-0498.

The Capitol Hill event marked a new phase in the decision by Senate Republicans to oppose their own President and try to sink UNCLOS. Earlier in the day, Senator McConnell's announced opposition to the pact had been greeted with thunderous applause at a conservative gathering. He is considered someone with the leadership and credibility necessary to bring other Republicans to his side in this struggle.

McConnell's decision was an important development also because conservatives were fearing quick ratification of the dangerous treaty. With the announced opposition of McConnell and the determination of other top Senate Republicans to defeat the pact, its fate is now in question. Some think Senator Joseph Biden, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, could even decide to indefinitely postpone a vote in his committee.

A vote had been scheduled on Wednesday, United Nations Day, but Senator David Vitter, a member of the committee, requested and received a postponement until the next business meeting. It's not clear when that will be. Vitter has asked for more hearings, noting that the two hearings which have been held featured supporters of the treaty over opponents by a margin of 9-2.

With mounting opposition from Republican senators, will Biden quickly reschedule a vote in his committee? Or will he wait?

Thompson Jumps on Bandwagon

Meanwhile, in the wake of Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee making political mileage by opposing the treaty in national debates and during campaign appearances, another candidate, former Senator Fred Thompson, has issued a statement saying he was opposing the treaty as well.

"I oppose the ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty at this time," Thompson said. "The Treaty threatens U.S. sovereignty and gives a U.N.-affiliated organization far too much authority over U.S. interests in international waters. The American people also deserve ironclad assurances that the problems with the treaty highlighted by President Reagan more than two decades ago have been fixed. At a time when customary international law in this area has proven sufficient, I believe the efforts of treaty proponents would be better spent reforming the United Nations. Until such reforms are complete, I see little reason for the U.S. to move forward on the Law of the Sea Treaty."

However, candidates Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney have not taken a stand.

Lott Attacks U.N. Bureaucracy

Senator Lott, who told the Capitol Hill press conference that he had studied the treaty for years, said it would authorize U.S. participation in a "huge new bureaucracy" and that American taxpayers would end up paying 25 percent of the total cost. He noted that, under the provisions, money and resources provided to the treaty organization would be "shared with the rest of the world," a form of foreign aid.

Speaking to the U.S. Navy's support of the treaty, Lott said that Admiral Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had conceded that one of the treaty's tribunals could make adverse rulings against the U.S. military. In any event, Lott said, the treaty is "a lot bigger than the military," a reference to its provisions that cover all kinds of activities on land and sea. He said the alternative to the treaty is "a strong robust Navy" that can protect American interests on the high seas.

Senator DeMint, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, said the treaty was defective because while the U.S. would follow it, other nations would not.

Senator Ensign warned of further entanglements with international bodies, in light of the fact that liberal members of the Supreme Court have been citing foreign rulings and international law in their rulings. He noted that a majority of members of some arbitration panels under the treaty can be picked by the Secretary-General of the U.N.

Senator Sessions noted that the U.S. can remain a non-party to the treaty and still cooperate with other nations on maritime issues.

Senator Inhofe emphasized the danger of the International Seabed Authority developing an independent source of revenue through fees and royalties on U.S. companies seeking access to oil, gas and minerals in international waters. Inhofe said this global tax would make the U.N. even less accountable than it is now. It would make it practically impossible, he argued, for the Congress to withhold money from the U.N. in order to induce reforms or changes in the world body.

Lugar's Lies

Several of the senators noted that President Reagan had rejected the pact. In this regard, Steven Groves of the Heritage Foundation has written a special report, "Why Reagan Would Still Oppose the Law of the Sea Treaty," noting the evidence of the former president's opposition to the pact on several grounds.

Groves notes that Senator Lugar, a treaty supporter, had claimed, "It is telling that the President [Reagan] did not raise any objection to any provision of the Convention outside the deep seabed mining section. President Reagan made no demands for any other changes in the treaty."

Groves cites evidence that Lugar's statement is "demonstrably false."

Lugar has played fast-and-loose with the truth on other occasions, such as when he attacked America's Survival, Inc., for an ad opposing the treaty but refused to permit my organization to respond.

Meanwhile, Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch and I have signed a letter of complaint (PDF) to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, asking for a review of misleading testimony provided to the Senate by Legal Adviser John B. Bellinger III and Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte. They insisted that the treaty has no provisions covering industrial and economic activities on land affecting the oceans when Senator Vitter, by citing the actual text of the document, proved that the truth was the exact opposite.

Meanwhile, President Bush took advantage of "United Nations Day" by issuing yet another proclamation in "honor" of the world body. This document called the U.N. a "great institution" and an "important body" that needed some reforms.

Leading conservative foreign policy experts have concluded that the Bush Administration is increasingly out-of-touch with the American people on many domestic and global issues, ranging from illegal immigration to international law and the United Nations.

A White House spokesman said on U.N. Day, however, that the administration is sticking with the U.N.'s Law of the Sea Treaty, despite evidence of increasing conservative and Republican Senate opposition to it. Such a decision can only further erode whatever is left of the President's conservative base.

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KEYWORDS: 109th; bush; bushislost; gop; lawoftheseatreaty; lost; nwo; un; unitednations
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It also urged people to call their Senators to oppose the pact by calling a toll-free number to the Capitol switchboard 1-800-828-0498.

Come on FReepers, let's light up that switchboard, It isn't too late yet to kill this.

There's still time to stop the hand-off of 70% of the earths surface to the un.

1 posted on 10/25/2007 11:54:58 AM PDT by processing please hold
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To: processing please hold

This is good news indeed.


2 posted on 10/25/2007 12:00:56 PM PDT by saganite
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To: processing please hold

W’s presidency is a wrap.


3 posted on 10/25/2007 12:01:21 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: saganite

Yes it is good news. Please call that switchboard. Have your voice heard.


4 posted on 10/25/2007 12:02:28 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
the pact, supported by the Bush Administration and the liberal leadership in the Senate

An all-too-common state of affairs.

5 posted on 10/25/2007 12:02:30 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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To: processing please hold; Calpernia; pissant; Issaquahking

One man was out ahead on this. Yes, the usual guy.

#13. Do you support the Law of the Sea Treaty? If not, will you revoke it if it passes before you take office?

Hunter: No, in the past I have opposed the Law of the Sea Treaty. I expect that to continue. There are serious issues of sovereignty involved, and as in the past, I have no intention of letting US sovereignty be eroded.

08/13/2007
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1880600/posts


6 posted on 10/25/2007 12:04:53 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
A total wrap.

Meanwhile, President Bush took advantage of "United Nations Day" by issuing yet another proclamation in "honor" of the world body. This document called the U.N. a "great institution" and an "important body" that needed some reforms.

Needs reforms? Too late- needs to be torn down and all it's foreign workers kicked out of our country. But first, make them pay their parking tickets.

7 posted on 10/25/2007 12:05:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“Such a decision can only further erode whatever is left of the President’s conservative base.”

I guess we need a show of hands on who supports W any longer.


8 posted on 10/25/2007 12:06:51 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: processing please hold

If Bush wasn’t so good with the WOT I’d join the bandwagon for his impeachment.


9 posted on 10/25/2007 12:07:35 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Lazarus Longer
An all-too-common state of affairs.

Sad situation.

10 posted on 10/25/2007 12:08:20 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: edcoil
I guess we need a show of hands on who supports W any longer.

Here they are having their morning meeting:


11 posted on 10/25/2007 12:09:18 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: AuntB

Thank you. I was looking for his comment on that.


12 posted on 10/25/2007 12:09:42 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: AuntB
Hunter: No, in the past I have opposed the Law of the Sea Treaty. I expect that to continue. There are serious issues of sovereignty involved, and as in the past, I have no intention of letting US sovereignty be eroded.

Nice sentiments - I agree with him that it is a horrible idea, and I'm glad he's in favor of retaining our full sovereignty over our territory.

BUT.

What can a member of the House do about it? Nothing except jaw-boning. If the Senate ratifies LOST, then it becomes the law of the land and WE are lost. The Senate is the key. It is nice to hear from people on this, but we need 34 particular people to oppose this.

13 posted on 10/25/2007 12:10:02 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: processing please hold

LOST provides an independent funding mechanism for the UN. Unless you want the UN to be even less accountable than it already is, LOST has to go down.


14 posted on 10/25/2007 12:10:31 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: processing please hold

The up side. If this passes and the US is ever blockaded, I could live my dream of being a pirate AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGH!


15 posted on 10/25/2007 12:11:26 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: processing please hold
Senator Inhofe emphasized the danger of the International Seabed Authority developing an independent source of revenue through fees and royalties on U.S. companies seeking access to oil, gas and minerals in international waters. Inhofe said this global tax would make the U.N. even less accountable than it is now. It would make it practically impossible, he argued, for the Congress to withhold money from the U.N. in order to induce reforms or changes in the world body.

Why isn't Senator Inhofe running for President?

16 posted on 10/25/2007 12:11:57 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: cinives
How can you fight a successful WOT with our borders wide open and no idea of who has passed over them? I'll bet you a dollar to a donut the next big attack that hits us, they will have sneaked across the border to get here.

Is there any further news on the California fires having been deliberately set?

17 posted on 10/25/2007 12:13:12 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

Sad case when Bush has to be repeatedly hit on the head by the conservatives

After 7 years heand his advisers don’t get the message


18 posted on 10/25/2007 12:13:53 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
W’s presidency is a wrap.

No kidding. I wish the dope would resign and let Cheney kick ass for the last 14 months.

19 posted on 10/25/2007 12:14:09 PM PDT by Maynerd (Hillary = amnesty, higher taxes,defeat in the WOT, and socialized medicine)
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Senator DeMint, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, said the treaty was defective because while the U.S. would follow it, other nations would not.

Umm didn't know DeMint had such a clear mind...

Thank you Senator... Concise and on target!
20 posted on 10/25/2007 12:14:38 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: AuntB
One man was out ahead on this. Yes, the usual guy.

No I think there has been more than one candidate opposed to LOST. Ron Paul for example, who has been repeatedly submitting bills to end US involvement in the UN for years.

21 posted on 10/25/2007 12:15:11 PM PDT by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: Ancesthntr

You are right about the senate, of course. However, I can assure you if Duncan Hunter were president, this LOST nonsense wouldn’t even be coming up.


22 posted on 10/25/2007 12:15:40 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: processing please hold

I will call mine, but I have little faith.


23 posted on 10/25/2007 12:16:56 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: processing please hold
"I oppose the ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty at this time," Thompson said.

I'm pleased Thompson is opposing it. But his words are weasely--"at this time." The more I see of him, the less I like him.

24 posted on 10/25/2007 12:19:14 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: P8riot
The up side. If this passes and the US is ever blockaded, I could live my dream of being a pirate AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGH!

What would a female pirate called should I ever get into that line of work? lol

Speaking of blockade, did you hear about this new Cuba initiative?

New UN initiative against the blockade circulating

25 posted on 10/25/2007 12:19:16 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

BTTT- I’ve made my calls


26 posted on 10/25/2007 12:20:26 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: gridlock
LOST provides an independent funding mechanism for the UN. Unless you want the UN to be even less accountable than it already is, LOST has to go down.

I hope everyone here reads your post, also lurkers. It must go down.

27 posted on 10/25/2007 12:20:55 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: gridlock

It’s a global tax pure and simple. Next would come the Tobin tax. Increments, it’s always in increments.


28 posted on 10/25/2007 12:22:42 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Lazarus Longer

I wish GWB would have fought as hard to fix SS as he did when he tried to ram amnesty and now the UN down our throats.


29 posted on 10/25/2007 12:22:45 PM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: processing please hold

These left wing initiatives never really die do they? They just keep getting coming up over and over again until they pass. LOST should have died in the 80’s.


30 posted on 10/25/2007 12:22:50 PM PDT by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: processing please hold; hedgetrimmer; nicmarlo; Borax Queen; Czar; calcowgirl

I am surprised at Trent Lott. I wonder how McCain will vote.

I notice no mention of the Texas senators. Time to call and apply pressure.

We only need 34 votes to kill this. Call your senators today.


31 posted on 10/25/2007 12:23:18 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Politicalmom

Congress critter ping!


32 posted on 10/25/2007 12:23:44 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: uncbob

“Sad case when Bush has to be repeatedly hit on the head by the conservatives. After 7 years he and his advisers don’t get the message.”

I think they get the message... but they disagree. When it comes to US sovereignty Bush is a total liberal. Clinton sold us to China, Bush sold us to Mexico. This is exactly what I expect from him. He is pathologically opposed to any kind of border at all... except for the fence that surrounds the White House.


33 posted on 10/25/2007 12:23:54 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: ModelBreaker

Those three words sent me into a tizzy yesterday on a Fred thread. I was not welcomed there at all.


34 posted on 10/25/2007 12:24:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: SE Mom

Thank you, thank you, thank you. So have I. And I’ll call them again. :)


35 posted on 10/25/2007 12:25:26 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Come on FReepers, let's light up that switchboard...

My Senator, Senator Kyl, is well aware of my stance on LOST, I will be writing to thank him for his fight against it. I will encourage him to keep fighting!
36 posted on 10/25/2007 12:26:32 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: processing please hold

Does anyone know the bill number?


37 posted on 10/25/2007 12:27:34 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: antinomian
Then we'll keep fighting it again and again. The L.O.S.T. treaty ratification has an expiration date------2009!!!!!!!

I'm afraid what Bush will do as one of his last acts before he leaves. Executive Orders scare the hell outta me.

38 posted on 10/25/2007 12:28:17 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: gridlock

He’s hardly ever been on TV. He’d end up second tier.


39 posted on 10/25/2007 12:29:15 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: processing please hold

“However, candidates Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney have not taken a stand.”

Rudy does not want to admit hes for it and Romney wont stand for anything until he grows a spine..


40 posted on 10/25/2007 12:30:22 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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President Bush is earning the moniker, “Missile”.

Just about any policy position he takes is a sure fire miss.


41 posted on 10/25/2007 12:32:03 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: processing please hold
,I.' . . . supported by the Bush . . . '

Wussup with the prez? Seems like he's on the wrong side of more and more issues.

42 posted on 10/25/2007 12:32:39 PM PDT by Eastbound
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Wake up America and protect our sovereignty!!

Be Ever Vigilant!!


43 posted on 10/25/2007 12:33:42 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: processing please hold

Good News indeed.


44 posted on 10/25/2007 12:34:09 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: processing please hold

I’m with you. Illegal immigrant for the economy are more important, I suppose, than the safety and sovereignty of the US.

No further info on the CA fires, but there are frequent reports of FBI investigations at several locations related to arson. I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that even if they find they’re deliberately set they’ll hide any evidence of it being anything other than white men.


45 posted on 10/25/2007 12:34:27 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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What would a female pirate called should I ever get into that line of work?

A wench.

I hadn't heard about the Cuban blockade. Thanks.

46 posted on 10/25/2007 12:34:30 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Eastbound
Wussup with the prez? Seems like he's on the wrong side of more and more issues.

He's a socialist trying to push the new world order on Americans.
47 posted on 10/25/2007 12:35:34 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: libs_kma

Yep. If he’d tried this hard with SS, there might at least have been a bill introduced in Congress.


48 posted on 10/25/2007 12:36:00 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: P8riot

I already have the requisite macaw, matey.


49 posted on 10/25/2007 12:36:41 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Man50D

Let me go through my bookmarks for it’s official handle.


50 posted on 10/25/2007 12:37:41 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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