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Researchers posit new ideas about human migration from Asia to Americas
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign ^ | October 25, 2007 | Andrea Lynn, Humanities Editor

Posted on 10/25/2007 2:48:27 PM PDT by decimon

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Wow, neat graphic.
1 posted on 10/25/2007 2:48:29 PM PDT by decimon
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Boffo beringia ping.


2 posted on 10/25/2007 2:49:36 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Bump for later.


3 posted on 10/25/2007 2:51:29 PM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: decimon
The original article is very good.

Ripan is one of the students who came out of Dave Smith's lab at U.C. Davis. Smith and these graduates and their students are doing some of the most interesting DNA work around!

4 posted on 10/25/2007 2:58:06 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: decimon; greyfoxx39

A very interesting article. I have always believed North American Indians had an appearance that resembled Asian ancestry, as opposed to European/Middle Eastern.


5 posted on 10/25/2007 3:00:16 PM PDT by rightazrain ("Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. " -- Ernest Hemingway)
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To: decimon
The DNA data also suggest a lot more to-ing and fro-ing than has been suspected of populations during the past few decades across the Rio Grande.
6 posted on 10/25/2007 3:01:49 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: decimon

Yeah, the graphics are super. But it doesn’t tell the whole story.

Forty thousand years ago humans migrated into Australia. So, how did they get there without boats?

Australia hasn’t been attached to any Asian continental landmasses nor to the large island to its north, modern day New Guinea. Yet humans and domesticated dogs arrived in Australia 40,000 years ago. They obviously arrived on boats of some kind.

During these past 40,000 years the sea level world-wide was between 600 to 400 feet lower than it is today. Look on any detailed submarine topographical map (one labeled with depths) and you’ll note how much of the mid-Atlantic ridge and other seamounts would have been bare land. An astonishingly large number.

If humans could have made it to Australia by boat 40,000 years ago, why not island hop across the Atlantic from west Africa? Is that why the boats made of reeds used on Lake Titicaca look almost identical to boats made of reeds depicted in ancient Egyptian tombs?


7 posted on 10/25/2007 3:05:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: decimon
Journey Of Mankind
(The Peopling Of The World)
8 posted on 10/25/2007 3:12:20 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: decimon

Clovis people:

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/hive/Kennewic.htm


9 posted on 10/25/2007 3:12:58 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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Here is a map of the world's oceans with the water level reduced by about 320 feet.
10 posted on 10/25/2007 3:15:16 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: decimon
The earliest people may have all died in this impact.

Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (Carolina Bays)

11 posted on 10/25/2007 3:27:41 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: decimon
Beringian Standstill and Spread of Native American Founders
12 posted on 10/25/2007 3:33:01 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: SunkenCiv

Of interest?


13 posted on 10/25/2007 4:51:43 PM PDT by indcons
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To: decimon

So, like, let me get this straight...

There was a way to walk between the two continents? And the weather was cold enough that ice was walkable between the two countries? Then it was warm enough for people to actually live in those areas? But it was cold enough to walk?

And none of this was caused by SUVs and coal-fired power plants?


14 posted on 10/25/2007 5:19:34 PM PDT by TWohlford
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There was a way to walk between the two continents? And the weather was cold enough that ice was walkable between the two countries? Then it was warm enough for people to actually live in those areas? But it was cold enough to walk?

During the glacial period the sea levels were much lower, perhaps by some 400 feet. That left a lot more land available for walking.

It was cold, but areas that are now under water were then dry.

15 posted on 10/25/2007 7:47:05 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam

That’s a pretty cool map. Except the connection between New Guinea and Australia never existed. See “Guns, Germs, and Steel” by Jared Diamond. It’s his thesis, not mine.


16 posted on 10/25/2007 8:07:50 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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"See “Guns, Germs, and Steel” by Jared Diamond. It’s his thesis, not mine."

I read it. It was a little to PC for me.

"Except the connection between New Guinea and Australia never existed."

I agree.

17 posted on 10/25/2007 8:52:51 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: decimon
Immigrants From The Other Side (Clovis Is Solutrean?)
18 posted on 10/25/2007 8:58:51 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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I wish I could remember where I read this information, but there is a small percentage, just a single digit, of mitochondrean DNA among South American mummies dated pre-Columbus that is neither Asian nor Polynesian, but Mediterranean in origin.


19 posted on 10/25/2007 9:13:23 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll
"I wish I could remember where I read this information, but there is a small percentage, just a single digit, of mitochondrean DNA among South American mummies dated pre-Columbus that is neither Asian nor Polynesian, but Mediterranean in origin."

I'm not aware of any and if you locate where you read that I'd sure like to read it too.
A, B, C, D and X are the 'known' haplogroups in the Americas.

20 posted on 10/25/2007 9:32:44 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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