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Racial ‘Cleansing’ in L.A.
Newsweek.com ^ | Oct 24, 2007 | Andrew Murr | Newsweek Web Exclusive

Posted on 10/25/2007 9:49:03 PM PDT by fishhound

A south Los Angeles Latino street gang targeted African-American gang rivals and other blacks in a campaign of neighborhood "cleansing," federal prosecutors say. Alleged leaders and foot soldiers in the Hispanic gang Florencia 13, also called F13, are being arraigned this week on charges stemming from a pair of federal indictments that allege that the gang kept a tight grip on its turf by shooting members of a rival gang—and sometimes random black civilians. The "most disturbing aspect" of the federal charges was that "innocent citizens … ended up being shot simply because of the color of their skin," U.S. Attorney Thomas O'Brien told reporters in announcing the indictments.

No one is sure what started the war between F13 and the black gang known as the East Coast Crips in the Florence-Firestone area of unincorporated L.A. County. Simple neighborhood demographic shifts played a role, as formerly black areas have become majority-Latino. The two gangs are also rivals in the lucrative drug trade. Much of the F13 indictments lay out a conspiracy alleging that gang members controlled drug houses where they sold large amounts of cocaine, crack and methamphetamine. Some say the killings began after the Crips pulled a large drug heist against F13 several years ago. Whatever the causes, L.A. Sheriff's Department statistics chart the war's violent toll: 80 gang-related shootings in the past three years, including 20 murders.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; gangs; immigration; losangeles
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1 posted on 10/25/2007 9:49:03 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound

Let me be the first to state it: it must be Bush’s fault!


2 posted on 10/25/2007 9:51:39 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: fishhound

Just doing the jobs native Americans won’t do.............


3 posted on 10/25/2007 9:52:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: fishhound
Strange, but there's no mention of hate crime charges in the article. No apparent indication of a racial element to the crimes. Imagine the serious penalties the prosecution could pursue if they could prove a hate crime. </sarcasm>
4 posted on 10/25/2007 9:55:58 PM PDT by FoxInSocks
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To: fishhound

Celebrate Diversity!!!


5 posted on 10/25/2007 9:58:59 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: fishhound
"The way it came out was that any young black man could be the target of [F13] and any young Hispanic man was the target of the [black gang]," says Rosales. "All they see is race."

Well, then they've grown up to be good little liberals then, huh?

6 posted on 10/25/2007 10:01:01 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: fishhound

Newsweak’s point: The person with the lighter skin shade is guilty and is subject to hate crime prosecution.


7 posted on 10/25/2007 10:08:02 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Where did you get the idea that the article is not about native Americans?
8 posted on 10/25/2007 10:15:00 PM PDT by Hornitos
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To: fishhound

The only racial cleansing going on in Lost Angeles, is the white population.....


9 posted on 10/25/2007 10:17:20 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: businessprofessor

And let me be the first to declare LA a quagmire.


10 posted on 10/25/2007 10:47:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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“And let me be the first to declare LA a quagmire.”

You’re a little late to be first. Right now your about the 12,456,787th to declare that.


11 posted on 10/25/2007 10:52:56 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (The UN did such a great job with Oil for Food in Iraq, let's let them run the whole country)
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To: FoxInSocks

Imagine the serious penalties the prosecution could pursue if they could prove a hate crime.

excellent point.

hate crimes charges seem to be reserved for people of european descent...unless i missed some story.


12 posted on 10/25/2007 10:57:12 PM PDT by fishhound
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“Gang leaders even allegedly instructed foot soldiers in how to hunt blacks in the most efficient manner, the feds maintain. “

So where is Jessie and Al Sharpton on this one.


13 posted on 10/25/2007 10:59:19 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound

I suggest rounding up all the gang members of all races and walling them in to Qualcomm stadium (or another one if it’s in worse shape, why trash a good one) and putting a big pile of hand weapons in the middle of the field. The winner is the one left standing or alive. He or she gets to leave and gets a free trip anywhere out of the country (one way).

Of course we put up a ton of CCTV cameras all over the stadium to catch all the action.


14 posted on 10/25/2007 11:02:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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For all the evidence of race-based targeting of victims, federal prosecutors haven’t filed civil rights charges against F13 members, though Hernandez says the idea remains under investigation in the ongoing case. (Hernandez explains that the charges are difficult to prove and wouldn’t increase prison time for those convicted of the other charges, anyway.) But law enforcement officials say the F13 members—and the Crips—frequently targeted victims based on race. “The way it came out was that any young black man could be the target of [F13] and any young Hispanic man was the target of the [black gang],” says Rosales. “All they see is race.”

Great Idea.

Do they deliberately practice not enforcing exsisting laws.
If it was a white gang against either that would be the immediate vector.


15 posted on 10/25/2007 11:06:55 PM PDT by fishhound
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You’re a little late to be first. Right now your about the 12,456,787th to declare that.

On this thread? I've got to learn how to type faster.

16 posted on 10/25/2007 11:21:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: EagleUSA

“The only racial cleansing going on in Lost Angeles, is the white population.....”

Not unlike other large cities, over quite a long time.

In many cases, people have moved from the City of Lost Angeles, to other cities in the County of Lost Angeles. Some fairly upscale, or at least solidly middle class.

This article was about an unincorporated area of the County; far from upscale or even solidly middle class.

These gangs are fighting over turf in bad neighborhoods. A lot of good minority people get out when possible, to live their middle class, law abiding lives in better neighborhoods, leaving the bad folks in the old hoods.


17 posted on 10/25/2007 11:21:31 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: fishhound

The article’s author sounds so surprised.


18 posted on 10/26/2007 12:23:41 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: fishhound

“A south Los Angeles Latino street gang targeted African-American gang rivals and other blacks in a campaign of neighborhood “cleansing,” federal prosecutors say.”

The shoe seems to be on the other foot now...


19 posted on 10/26/2007 12:28:48 AM PDT by TheThinker (Foreign campaign contributions should be criminal. This is not democracy at work.)
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To: fishhound
The democrats may be compelled to step in, if for no other reason than to record the names of the dead on voter registration lists.
20 posted on 10/26/2007 2:23:30 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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