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(Hip Hop) Song Links Saggy Pants to Being Gay
NPR ^ | October 26, 2007 | NPR

Posted on 10/26/2007 8:01:20 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Song Links Saggy Pants to Being Gay

The Bryant Park Project, October 26, 2007 · A new campaign by the city of Dallas targets the hip-hop style of wearing your pants low enough that your boxers are showin — and part of your posterior, too.

The campaign has a signature song, "Pull Your Pants Up," by Dooney Da' Priest, that links so-called saggin' with being gay. After the BPP blogged NPR's original report on the public service announcement, listeners objected to lyrics they consider homophobic.

Andrew Jones commented on a line about living "on the down low" — common slang for a man who has secret sexual encounters with other men.''It's cute when homophobia is part of a citywide campaign," Jones wrote. "Shaming the youth by calling them gay, love that from the government."

An accompanying billboard says it's rude to be "walking around showin' your behind to other dudes." The song's refrain is "Be a real man — pull your pants up."

In an interview with a local television station, Dooney explained that saggin' comes from jail, where he argued that showing your boxers has a very particular meaning. "You're letting another man know that you're available," Dooney said.

Mark Anthony Neal, professor of black popular culture in the Department of African American Studies at Duke University, parses the lyrics and explains why they'll hit some young men hard.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: baggypants; culturewar; dallas; fashion; gay; ghetto; hiphop; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; pullyourpantsup; rap; saggin; saggypants; tard
"Song Links Saggy Pants to Being Gay"

lol

1 posted on 10/26/2007 8:01:21 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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Listen to the “song” here:

http://www.npr.org/templates/dmg/popup.php?id=15525668&type=7&date=&au=1&pid=22322323&random=1161156531&guid=0007E7C5A87B07224100503961626364&uaType=WM,RM&aaType=RM,WM&upf=Win32&topicName=Arts___Culture&subtopicName=Pop_Culture&prgCode=BPP&hubId=-1&thingId=15654565&tableModifier=&mtype=WM


2 posted on 10/26/2007 8:01:58 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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Related article:

“In Dallas, a Hip-Hop Plea: Pull Your Pants Up”

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15534306


3 posted on 10/26/2007 8:02:44 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: EveningStar

ping


4 posted on 10/26/2007 8:03:09 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I doubt it will work.

But, I appreciate the effort.


5 posted on 10/26/2007 8:03:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: DogByte6RER
After the BPP blogged NPR's original report on the public service announcement, listeners objected to lyrics they consider homophobic.

I guess they don't mind songs that are mysogynistic, or encourage violence against police officers, though.

What will be interesting to see is how many young men start hiking their pants back up.

6 posted on 10/26/2007 8:06:08 PM PDT by SuziQ
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7 posted on 10/26/2007 8:07:27 PM PDT by EveningStar
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8 posted on 10/26/2007 8:09:39 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
"The campaign has a signature song, "Pull Your Pants Up," by Dooney Da' Priest, that links so-called saggin' with being gay."

LoL! That's one way of getting these kids to pull their pants up, and start shopping for the right sized clothes.

9 posted on 10/26/2007 8:09:44 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DogByte6RER

Sagging was in like 15 years ago. Can’t they get with the times? Now just baggy clothes are in style with men. No men want to see other men’s boxers/underwear unless they like other men. AT that point it’s not a fashion statement but a sexual orientation AND sex drive statement.


10 posted on 10/26/2007 8:10:21 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: DogByte6RER

T’anks. :)


11 posted on 10/26/2007 8:11:01 PM PDT by EveningStar
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http://www.myspace.com/pullyourpantsupman


12 posted on 10/26/2007 8:12:42 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
I've been trying to do the same thing with the Confederate Flag for YEARS!


13 posted on 10/26/2007 8:14:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: DogByte6RER

Another thing, between the posing, the hatred of women, the bragging about solidarity with one’s homies, rap lyrics are kinda gay...


14 posted on 10/26/2007 8:15:35 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Clemenza

I knew you would be on this thread.


15 posted on 10/26/2007 8:16:03 PM PDT by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: darkangel82

No, I am NOT on “da D-L.”


16 posted on 10/26/2007 8:16:41 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: DogByte6RER
hmmm...i had heard that wearing pants low was, in fact, from prison. but the implication was that you were the property of another inmate. effectively, that you were someone's "bitch".

and i heard this from guys who were actually in prison.

17 posted on 10/26/2007 8:18:18 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: DogByte6RER

When I see some doof with baggy pants I chuckle.
Reminds me of the good ole days and one of my kids with a ‘load’ in their diaper.


18 posted on 10/26/2007 8:20:18 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Clemenza

On the other hand, those wearing saggies would make TERRIBLE chain snatchers and purse theives. Can you see them robbing someone and then trying to run. That would be one of the funniest things you could ever hope to see.


19 posted on 10/26/2007 8:21:08 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: Clemenza

This is what kids are listening to today.

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When I Do Dat Soulja Boy
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(Now You)
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And If We Get The Fightin
Then I’m Cocking On Your Bitch
You Catch Me At Yo Local Party
Yes I Crank It Everyday
Haterz Get Mad Cuz
“I Got Me Some Bathin Apes”

[Chorus]
Soulja Boy up in it (OH!)
Watch Me Crank It
Watch Me Roll
Watch Me Crank Dat Soulja Boy,
that Super Man Dat (OH!)
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja)
Now Watch Me Do
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Now Watch Me Do
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(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)

Soulja Boy up in it (OH!)
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Watch Me Roll
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I’m Bouncin On My Toe
Watch Me Super Soak Dat (OH!)
I’ma Pass It To Arab
Then He Gon Pass It To The Low (Low)
Haterz Wanna Be Me
Soulja Boy, I’m The Man
They Be Lookin At My Neck
Sayin Its The Rubberband Man (Man)
Watch Me Do It (Watch Me Do It)
Dance (Dance)
Let Get To It (Let Get To It)
Nope, You Can’t Do It Like Me
Hoe, So Don’t Do It Like Me
Folk, I See You Tryna Do It Like Me
Man That Shit Was Ugly

[Chorus]
Soulja Boy up in it (OH!)
Watch Me Crank It
Watch Me Roll
Watch Me Crank Dat Soulja Boy,
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Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja )
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja )
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja )
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja )

Soulja Boy up in it (OH!)
Watch Me Crank It
Watch Me Roll
Watch Me Crank Dat Soulja Boy,
that Super Man Dat (OH!)
Now Watch Me Do
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Now Watch Me Do
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20 posted on 10/26/2007 8:23:20 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Was that English?


21 posted on 10/26/2007 8:32:59 PM PDT by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: DogByte6RER
Dooney explained that saggin' comes from jail, where he argued that showing your boxers has a very particular meaning. "You're letting another man know that you're available
================================= Well I was under the impression that prison sex was not homosexual love it was just part of the power play of livin' like dogs.
22 posted on 10/26/2007 8:34:31 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: DogByte6RER
that links so-called saggin' with being gay.

If that perspective catches on it's the most sure-fire way to get both the thugs and the wannabes to pull up their pants.

23 posted on 10/26/2007 8:37:54 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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To: All

It’s tough finding ways to encourage good behavior while trying to eliminate the culture that justifies it. Calling people queers to help reduce vulgarity is an interesting approach. Who knows...?


24 posted on 10/26/2007 8:40:12 PM PDT by pallis
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To: DogByte6RER
I actually saw a saggy baggy the other day. Laughed my a$$ off. That had to be the stoopidist example of a waste of intelect I have ever seen.

Who cares if they want to look like what they are showing? Like the Elvis sideburns of the 70's, it'll come back to haunt them.

25 posted on 10/26/2007 8:41:34 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Hey Jessie, how much melanin do you have to have to form a socially acceptable lynch mob?)
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To: thefactor
hmmm...i had heard that wearing pants low was, in fact, from prison. but the implication was that you were the property of another inmate. effectively, that you were someone's "bitch".

I read the same on FR the other day.

26 posted on 10/26/2007 8:41:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: NCC-1701

“On the other hand, those wearing saggies would make TERRIBLE chain snatchers and purse theives. Can you see them robbing someone and then trying to run. That would be one of the funniest things you could ever hope to see.”

I saw that happen on COPS...and it was funny, right up there with the shoes with the lights on the back of them every time the “suspect” took a step, the locator beacon activated...


27 posted on 10/26/2007 8:45:57 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on/Isaiah 3.3)
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To: DogByte6RER

“Eazy! Hey Eazy!”
“Whassup?”
“Why you wear your pants like that?”
“I wear my pants like this...for easy access, baby.”


28 posted on 10/26/2007 8:47:50 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: NCC-1701

There was some police dashcam video that showed two thugs running from a convenience store robbery. Both kept falling down due to their stylish dress. It was hilarious.


29 posted on 10/26/2007 8:53:34 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: DogByte6RER

no wonder so many hip hop’n rappers are in jail or the morgue, they can’t run with their pants damn near ‘round their knees


30 posted on 10/26/2007 9:10:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Global2010
Well I was under the impression that prison sex was not homosexual love it was just part of the power play of livin' like dogs.

What's love got to do with it? You engage in homosexual activities, you are a homosexual.

31 posted on 10/26/2007 9:12:47 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: DogByte6RER
When I see some doof with baggy pants I chuckle.

One day I was walking out of a local mall to my car.
I was walking behind and to the side of this kid,
wearing saggy-baggie shorts (crotch between his knees)
with the striped boxers showing 6" above. I chuckled
(quietly) and got into my car.

He approached a car in the next row, and was looking all
around, (suspicious!!) then he unlocked the car door,
opened it (still looking all around) and stepped just
inside the open door, grabbed the waistband of his shorts
and wiggled and pulled the shorts up to his armpits...
so he could get into the car.

I laughed my ass off as I drove away. So if this kid
became a gun-toting drive-by killer, it's all because
some short redheaded chick at the mall damaged his
fragile ego, twisting his mind to embrace a life of crime..
or he could have gone to law school :)
32 posted on 10/26/2007 9:31:46 PM PDT by Dominnae ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." -- Winston Churchill)
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33 posted on 10/26/2007 10:14:37 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Always Right

This song actually is number one on the charts. While I’m a Christian, I’m young, and I admit listening to rap because I like the beat. There actually is a dance to the Soulja Boy, and the beat of the song is good. I would like it if they cleaned up the lyrics, though. Most songs, while having a different beat, have the same message. The guys are at a club trying to get some girl to come back to their “crib”, sleeping around, pimping, that sort of thing. Women are not portrayed in a good light. I know whites listen to this to, but a lot of young black males look up to these rappers and follow the message these songs portray. It’s not good. Hopefully, at some point, a positive black male role model will move into the hip hop scene, become popular with the kids, and help transform it.

As far as the pants, my cousin works for a politician, and they work with the police sometimes. The reason why a lot of these guys wear baggy pants and long white shirts is because it makes them all look similar in the case of a crime. For example, if a crime is committed, the police will ask a witness who they saw. A witness will say for example, a black male, long white shirt, baggy pants. Well, there are tons of them. Some white guys are wearing the same thing. As far as the pants, apparantly one of the reasons they wear them baggy to be in “solidarity” with their brothers in prison. Prison pants often don’t fit and slide down. They wear their pants that way to show support for them. Another reason is so people will be unable to tell if they have a gun. A gun can be hidden easily in baggy pants. Of course I think it is ridiculous to dress for the possibility that one might be at the center of a crime, to show support for criminals, or to carry a likely illegal weapon. (Sigh) What a world we live in. My cousin did say that one positive thing about the baggy pants (ignoring the fact the police aren’t sure if they have a weapon) is that when they try to run, their pants fall down. They have to keep pulling their pants up while they run. It slows them down.


34 posted on 10/27/2007 12:04:52 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Always Right

I hate that song, and I showed my students my 90’s comp. of rap that contrasts with the absolute C-rap that these kids listen to today.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a-afGGrlmDs

It kills “modern rap.”

I need to be careful though, a couple of girls in my class told me that they got pregnant and didnt know what to do. I said, you could have solved with one action - and then I crossed my legs. These kids dont even know that they don’t NEED TO HAVE SEX. And soulja boy needs to get shot for his crappy music.


35 posted on 10/27/2007 12:36:40 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: thefactor

I heard the exact same thing.


36 posted on 10/27/2007 4:53:06 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: martin_fierro
And if it's bad
Don't let it get you down, you can take it
And if it hurts
Don't let them see you cry, you can take it
Pull your pants up, Pull your pants up
Pull your pants up, Pull your pants high
And if they stare
Just let them burn their eyes on you moving
And if they shout
Don't let them change a thing what you're doing

Pull your pants up, Pull your pants up
Pull your pants up, Pull your pants high

37 posted on 10/27/2007 7:17:29 AM PDT by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: EveningStar
An accompanying billboard says it's rude to be "walking around showin' your behind to other dudes." The song's refrain is "Be a real man — pull your pants up."

This is classic!

Pass the popcorn!

38 posted on 10/27/2007 8:50:39 AM PDT by FredHead47 (KIMI = World Champion 2007)
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To: DogByte6RER

It’s funny how alot black rap songs nowadays sounds alot like an Eminem Song. Whitey used to try to sound black and now the blacks try to sound like whitey.


39 posted on 10/27/2007 9:34:20 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: EveningStar
Saggin' pants award... Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
40 posted on 10/27/2007 10:21:35 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: rb22982
Now just baggy clothes are in style with men.

That's just sick. And I'll bet it's becoming the rage in Dupont Circle.

41 posted on 11/18/2007 1:40:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: Clemenza

ahh the Rudy Giuliani NYC-ification of the south strategy...


42 posted on 11/18/2007 1:43:25 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stand watie; basil; PistolPaknMama

Uh-oh. Check out #13.


43 posted on 11/18/2007 1:45:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: OSHA

look for the zoot suit to come back.

I thought the baggy pants was to hide drug inventory.


44 posted on 11/18/2007 1:54:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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