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New Hampshire Blues (Why NH Is Turning Blue)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 27 October 2007 | ANDREW CLINE

Posted on 10/27/2007 7:27:13 AM PDT by shrinkermd

Edited on 10/27/2007 8:02:30 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Past Your Eyes

The premise is not true. If you look up the famous red-blue map (by counties or precincts) and compare the 2000 Presidential election results to the 2004 results, you’ll see blue moving in on the Vermont border, not the Massachusetts border.


21 posted on 10/27/2007 8:26:18 AM PDT by MoralSense
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To: samtheman
I lack the feeling-guilty-about-my-own-success

Probably, because YOU worked for it.

22 posted on 10/27/2007 8:31:04 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: shrinkermd

The margins of victory for liberal voters in New Hampshire come from the areas around the colleges in the state, and from Portsmouth.

The reason for liberal voting patterns around UNH and Dartmouth is pretty obvious, just look at the politics of most university faculty and many of their students. The left and the Democrats have been organizing them like mad.

I suspect Portsmouth has moved to the left due to the influx of wealthy retirees, many of whom are liberals, and the politicization of many of its younger residents who have traditionally been rather free spirited.

Those towns happen to be further north than the counties along the border, but the real change is that ratio of Republicans to Democrats and liberal Independents has been reduced in the border due to migration from Massachusetts, and therefore we can no longer offset the effect of the liberals in the college towns and Portsmouth.

In local races Republican candidates have suffered from a very weak state Republican party, and intense, organized liberal support for Democratic candidates. Up until a couple of years ago candidates for state Rep. typically spent $500 or $1000 for their campaign for some signs and a home made flyer. In the last race the Democratic candidates all had professionally produced, color printed brochures, signs, etc. I read an article describing how an issue oriented group in Massachusetts spent over $100,000 supporting Democratic candidates for state Rep., along with sending full time campaign staffers to NH.

New Hampshire is seen as a target by every liberal political group around, and they have brought agressive, out of state funded campaign operations to bear on candidates and a political system based on low key personal campaigning. All you have to do is read the local newspapers, where the letters to the editor section are now full of letters clearly written in response to some email the authors received from MoveOn.org or Emilys List or some other group of their ilk.

It is time for the conservatives in this state to get in gear and meet the challenge - our traditional style of politics is sadly gone.


23 posted on 10/27/2007 9:26:26 AM PDT by freeandfreezing (Go Sox!)
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To: nmh

I think you’ll find the boomer generation is mixed because indoctrination wasn’t so insane but as you exmaine people younger than the boomer generation it will be very Demoncrat.

That’s what the lying leftists are counting on.


24 posted on 10/27/2007 9:35:36 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: shrinkermd
Speaking of Red States/Blue States.....
Does anyone have any information of why they were reversed some yrs ago....I think originally...Blue states were Republican.....Who changed it and why?
25 posted on 10/27/2007 10:27:25 AM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: metesky

But only recently have they overwhelmed us and taken control. The “natives” in town are a small minority any more.


26 posted on 10/27/2007 10:29:14 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: OCCASparky
" She looks like a "one-and-done" Congresscritter."

One can but hope. This Hodes doughhead doesn't seem to have any serious opponent yet. Hopefully Charlie Bass will stay in retirement. That little pipsqueak was just the kind of Republican that we don't need and are better off without.

27 posted on 10/27/2007 10:37:19 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: shrinkermd
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...

Um... it's _subscribers only_.

My personal opinion of threads like this is "why bother" if the original poster is not going to put up enough of the article so that EVERYONE can get the gist of what it's about.

I would prefer a ban from posting "subscription only " articles in this forum at all. The "link" to the "rest of the story" is meaningless, because without a subscription there _is no_ story. To me, that's tantamount to not providing a link at all, which is forbidden here.

Again, just my opinion, and yours may be different.

- John

28 posted on 10/27/2007 10:48:03 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman
Having been a NH resident for awhile with our family here since the 1700’s, the history of Massholes in NH is long and painful. Recently though, the blame lies with the NH Republican party. They have failed to deliver, be repondsive to an ever active liberal political machine here in NH. The NH Repubilicans and Conservatives have been “drunk” with success.
29 posted on 10/27/2007 1:31:20 PM PDT by NH Article 10 (Kill them all, God will know his own - Pope Pious the 7th)
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To: Past Your Eyes; Little Bill

Guys like Bill should stay in MA where they belong.


30 posted on 10/27/2007 1:38:30 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: NH Article 10
"family here since the 1700’s"

Ooooh, newcomers, eh?

31 posted on 10/27/2007 2:39:25 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: metesky
I was at the Salt Lake Zoo in 1978. I had my kids with me and I was buying tickets and the lady , in a very snotty voice after noticing my accent, "Just Move here."

I refrained from pointing out that my family settled in Utah in 1848 and I was born about a mile from the zoo, "Just visiting." says I.

32 posted on 10/27/2007 5:48:59 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Little Bill; Past Your Eyes
Well Bill, I can't deny I'm a Masshole, born in Boston City Hospital in '44.

The friends I've made in the 10 years we've been up here in Bangor can hardly believe that I am not like the rest, trying to change the place into a well regulated Boston suburb, but the native Dems here are doing it all by themselves anyway. I bet about 55% of working Mainers get a government check in one form or another.

Just like the rest of the country, the tick is growing bigger than the cow.

33 posted on 10/28/2007 6:12:30 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Past Your Eyes

My family Mass 1628, then to Conn 1630, then NY, Saratoga County, 1730(?), then ever West 1831. Never hit NH until I moved here after a 40 year exile in Mass, My branch anyway, sucks being the descendant of a lot of younger sons.


34 posted on 10/28/2007 11:38:23 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: metesky

I have a FRiend from Oldtown, Native, who says the same thing in Spades.


35 posted on 10/28/2007 11:42:22 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Little Bill

To the best of my knowledge, my family (some on both sides) first arrived in NH in 1633. Lots of us are still here!


36 posted on 10/28/2007 2:44:39 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Great, I hope we can raise our status from SemiFree State to FreeState, "Yankees of the World Unite, We Have Nothing To Loose But Our Chains!"

Even that pisses me off, we gave people shelter and work, helped the poor, promoted industry, and we are aholes.

37 posted on 10/28/2007 3:09:57 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: shrinkermd

Link to complete article:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/cc/?id=110010793&mod=RSS_Opinion_Journal&ojrss=frontpage


39 posted on 10/28/2007 7:46:27 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: M-cubed

The media changed it all at once in 2000. They decided in unison that we Republicans would be red, never blue. That way the communistic “red” taint could never be used against them.

Up until 2000, there was no rhyme or reason for who got which of the two colors. You could flip from channel to channel and see the GOP states go blue one place and red the next.

After 2000, we have become universally “red.” So much for Fox News being different.


40 posted on 10/28/2007 7:53:28 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way. No Mitt . No way. No McCain. No way.)
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