Posted on 10/27/2007 12:20:20 PM PDT by george76
A pack of wolves killed about a half-dozen sled dogs from three teams in Marshall on Wednesday night before residents of the Yukon River village chased them out of town, according to village officials and Alaska State Troopers.
The wolves killed three adult dogs, including a female with pups, several villagers said. About three of the pups were also killed and several other dogs injured.
"They were running through the whole town here," said Dewayne Cooper, the housing improvement officer for the Native Village of Marshall. "They're not just hanging out by the dog teams. I don't know what they're looking for, but they're obviously not scared."
A group of about 15 people killed at least one of the wolves and wounded several, said Maureen Larson, who works for the Marshall Traditional Council.
The wolves -- it was unclear exactly how many there were -- appeared in town early in the evening Wednesday, about 6 or 7 p.m., when they were seen skulking near housing in the northeast portion of town, Larson said.
Some kids shot at them and scared them off, she said.
But around 8:30 p.m. they were back to begin their assault on three of the village's five dog teams, said musher Clem Kameroff, whose dogs were attacked.
Troopers got the report of the invading wolves Thursday morning...
(Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ...
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And tell me again why it is that we want these things running around back east?
villagers are concerned that the wolves, having tasted that easy treat, might be back. A group of hunters went out on four-wheelers Thursday to track the wolves and engage in some “preventative maintenance,” Cooper said.
“I don’t think it’s over yet,” he said. “They were in downtown Marshall, they were in uptown Marshall, they were all over town.”
Rumor has it that they like Liberals.
The USFWS are spending lots of our tax dollars to introduce Canadian wolves to the USA.
Then the beaurocrazies will get millions more dollars to ‘manage’ these Canadian wolves...
I hope those kids do not draw any pictures of guns in their school or they will be expelled. No tolerance, you know.
My last assignment before retiring from the US Army in 1990 was in central New York State and the area was 'overrun' with deer. They roamed the farms, vineyards and orchards and even people's yards in herds of 35 to 40 dear. Driving at night was especially hazardous because you never knew when you would drive around a sharp corner and find a herd of deer filling the road and fields on either side of the road.
The liberal idiots who lived in the area wanted to enact laws requiring farmers to fence their fields in order to keep the deer out of the roads so the cars wouldn't kill the poor little 'bambis'. They also refused to allow communities to hire pest control professionals to thin out the herds.
The idea or reintroducing a Predator Population (other than man) into the Northeast United States appealed to me then and still does today.
The pro-wolf lobby has for decades claimed that wolves in North America have never attacked and killed humans. They say there is no such credible historically recorded event.
I don’t believe that at all.
Nevertheless, it is only a matter of time before an attack happens and is highly publicized, just like such events involving mountain lions (puma/panther). Then we can expect to see organized wolf hunts in the lower 48 states.
Packs of stray and feral dogs are far more dangerous to people in small settlements. Every few years a kid gets killed or mauled, and the whole village goes out hunting stray dogs. Dogs have been habituated to humans and stick around the settlement; while wolves stay away from settlements, unless they’re desperate.
Wolves Suspected in Death of 22-year-old Ontario Man
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1912826/posts
“We’re looking to make sure they’re not harming people. That’s our main concern,” Andrew said. “We have a large population of small children.”
Villagers have been advised to keep children inside after dark.
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=7273671
I’m a big fan of icanhascheezburger.com, and for some reason, this reminds me of the pic I just saw there, with a dachshund looking up from the hot-dog squeezy toy he’s just been gnawing on, as if to ask the question the caption poses...
“...dis not cannibalizm…rite?”
I can’t believe George Bush can’t even protect one little village’s dogs from wolves driven mad by global warming. At least send Gore and manbearpig up there.
PS Wait till elk get established in the east if you think running into a deer is bad.
Uh,, how about lengthening the doe season and give out free hunting license's.
That might be one way to start but since the Environmentalist Wackos are so quick to intervene in the State of Alaska's every attempt at Predator Control (read 'Wolf Control'), I still think it would only be fair to export some of the wolves that they're so concerned about to their own home counties and states...
Considering your last post (which I missed while making MY post)... maybe I’m not with you after all.
When game animals are at a low point in their cycle, predators like wolves and coyotes are starving and dangerous. I’ve lost cats to coyotes & a friend had a dog eaten by wolves right in his (very large) back yard.
Wolves have a fear of humans — that’s why they don’t typically attack us. They got that fear from seeing how deadly we can be. One could draw parallels with geopolitics. Liberals would make excuses for the wolf, and persist in denying that it could be a threat. Conservatives would go wolf hunting — which keeps the wolves at bay, and convinces liberals that they are no threat.
This is similar to the idea that some Conservatives are simply Liberals who've been mugged. When Liberals have to buy and use guns to protect their children and pets, perhaps they won't be so quick to take them (guns) away from those who wish to protect themselves from the wild animals (human and otherwise) who seem to infest this nation these days...
There is also this :
A kayaker’s life-and-death struggle with a hungry wolf on B.C.’s remote north coast... has prompted a conservation officer to warn against taking wolf encounters too lightly.
“This was a predatory wolf attack,” conservation officer James Zucchelli confirmed in an interview from his Bella Coola Valley office.
“That fellow was perceived as a prey source. He was attacked with intent to eat. The wolf saw him and took off running at him.”
the attack reinforces the fact that wolves are predators and capable of attacking humans ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1875274/posts
We agree that there are many dangers to humans like dogs. This incident is documenting that wolves have, do, and will attack humans.
As also noted above : parents were warned not to let their children out after dark...
A little off subject but,.. my area has a problem with Fisher Cats. There’s about 100 domestic cats missing due to them. They are a “protected species.” Let me tell you.. I see one in my back yard and they will be “toast!”
These “protected species” often are used by the friends of the Sierra Club for personal financial gains.
Not just the lawyers who earn fees but also Ted Turner types who love to buy up family ranches at bankruptcy because the family ranchers could not afford the economic hits ( loses of live stock...).
I shot at blk wolf in sept from boat but was like 500 yards away and bee lining for brush. We see wolves from time to time but mostly just tracks; they usually stay clear of people best they can, no joke; Kinda like your patriotic duty to shoot every wolf you see up here.
We have young wolves show up every year mid august, kicked out to find new pack or starve. They are like 60-80 lb this years pups and they aren’t really scared of people yet; kinda like seeing them. My boy uses rabbit squealer to call them in at bus stop in mornings; I don’t let him shoot the young ones. Actually had them come up our lane, sit down and look at my dogteam, who would tear young wolf apart if they could bust chains. I’ll walk out on porch and wolf just looks, but these are this years pups, haven’t been shot at.
Wolves are opportunists, and they usually don’t come into villages but from time to time, it’ll happen; nothing to be too worked up about.
Wolves are part of what makes alaska special, nobody wants to see them gone, just sensible game management; not the stupid balance of nature garbage people from big cities dream about. I like hearin them across the river myself and really like settin snares in the sloughs.
We have bears, wolves and of course, moose (and although the moose don't eat people, they do occasionally kill people). I haven't hunted recently but when I do, it's for meat to put on the table. I do try to be alert to my surroundings and avoid having to kill wild animals when possible. I do not hunt for trophies or rugs.
You forgot to mention the idiotic rules of the “Lower 48 require ....”
I’ve got news for you, honey. Wolves in Eurasia aren’t afraid of humans and there are many recorded instances of attacks and consumption (wolf on human).
Wolf experts state that Eurasian wolves in general are solitary hunters whereas North American wolves hunt in packs. I don’t know whether that makes much difference.
Idaho asks to manage wolf pack
Already, wolves more than exceed goals for delisting, set at 30 breeding pairs in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, Nadeau said. Idaho alone has 36 breeding pairs and 61 packs. More than 600 wolves are estimated to live in the state, he said, calling the recovery goal at this point "bureaucratic."
Humans used to do a good job but much the same people who want to reintroduce wolves demonize hunting, gun ownership, meat eating, etc, etc, etc.
The USF&WS dumped these Canadian wolves in Yellowstone knowing that they would expand all over the west.
One Canadian wolf ‘released’ in Yellowstone was recently hit / killed on Interstate 70 west of Denver.
The federal beaurocrazies now have jobs for life ‘managing’ the mess that they created.
The idea of no limit deer hunting comes to my mind.
Anyhow, I think that it does come down to whether or not the animals have a healthy fear of humans. N. American wolves learned that fear; perhaps Eurasian wolves lost the fear because of restrictions on hunting.
Wolves avoid northern (N. America) settlements, unless they’re desperately hungry. When their usual prey population crashes (a cyclic event — e.g. happens about every eleven years for rabbits), predator animals invade settlements. They usually stick to easy targets like pets — but, I agree they could also go after children. Dog packs tend to stick around settlements, because they’ve become habituated to humans. That makes dogs less fearful of humans, and statistically much more likely than wolves to attack us.
Bears wern’t mentioned; but they are a real nuisance in many settlements — mainly because of poor garbage handling. Older, or sick bears in particular will hang out at a dump, because they can’t hunt any longer. Some of these old bears are huge (900 lbs or so); and can be very dangerous. Even if it was the dump that attracted them, the bears will roam all over a town.
Here in Michigan (lower peninsula) we have a growing problem with coyotes, the range of which animal goes from the Bering Strait to the Panama Canal.
No problem when you're teaching up here at the edge of the treeline. When a student shows up at my doorstep with a shotgun, it always means, "Hey, let's go shoot some birds!"
The science teacher has hides in his closet from his trapline. Students have a hunting club and they went out for a moose last month. My son has already shot his own spruce grouse every weekend this fall and he's 9 years old; the yearbook is packed with kids smiling while holding rifles next to dead caribou, moose, swans, and geese. (Swans are actually real good, a red meat, with a taste like turkey.) It's normal to see kids walking down the road with a rifle over the shoulder, looking for something.
By the way, Marshall is just down the river from me. When I first heard this story, my first concern was my dog, who is chained up all day and would make a tasty nugget for any visiting wild carnivore. Kids are a concern, too. The idea that wolves are just furry dogs who live outside is stupid beyond all reasoning, especially for those of us who live with them. Not that I want them all killed, either. I'm not a Paleolithic guy concerned about mayhem among my tribe, I have a gun, and my predatory nature far outstrips those wolves out there tonight. You should have the good fortune to stand outside on a -30 degree night with the full moon on the snow and hear the wolves sing. It is a beautiful thing. However, if they come into town, they're not going to be leaving this village unless it's to the furrier in Anchorage or Fairbanks.
Gun control....
I do think we should ‘share the wealth’ and export some of our wolves to places like New York, Massachusetts, Conneticutt, and Deleware.
Maybe in Joe Biden’s district office. Or just send the wolves to Jersey, although Atlantic City is already full of predators.
Sounds good to me; that's what wolves do - they prey on the weak (or in this case, the 'weak-minded') thereby making the herd a stronger group organism...
To thin out the liberal herds...
Lots of wisdom in two sentences...
There’s a lot to be said for rock salt ‘training rounds’...
A moose once, oh, nevermind...
Sounds good to me; that’s what wolves do - they prey on the weak (or in this case, the ‘weak-minded’) thereby making the herd a stronger group organism.
Marshall, Alaska has an uptown and a downtown? Who knew?
Me too; just when I get my fill of bad news in the form of arsonists, baby-killers, drunks killing entire families on the road, all I gotta do to re-up my batteries with the uber-goodness of icanhascheezeburger.com, and suddenly everything is gonna be OK.
Nathan
>>Did you ever hear tell of an old halfbreed Shoshone named John Luster out of Talkeetna? He was a genuine American character.<<
Hell, Talkeetna’s in the civilized part of Alaska. It’s less than one hour to the nearest Wal-Mart. Sorry, bud. I’m on the other side of the mountains about 300 miles to the northeast of the Mat-Su in an undisclosed location, since simply identifying the town would allow anyone here to know exactly who I am, and I like being at least a little incognito.
My personal experiences with John allow me to confirm that this guy was the real thing.
From the back cover of the book) : A man born in two centuries is how Johnny Luster can best be described. His insatiable appetite for outdoor adventure, his avoidance of normal education and urban life, and his unstoppable courage in the face of incredible hardship and danger were more typical of men like Jim Bridger and Jedediah Smith.
Out of Season front coverJohnny's life took him from guiding on the Wyoming frontier, to making movies with John Wayne, and then on to Alaska for fifty years of trapping and guiding. See Alaska through the eyes of Alaska's Last Great Mountainman. Experience the amazing adventures of the man who claimed to be the genuine Mad Trapper of Rat River - the trapper and guide who lived to tell his real life story.
Out of Season - back coverFrom the Author: "I couldn't pass up this rare experience of getting to know such a colorful and exceptional person. I had no idea what a treasure had been laid at my doorstep - truly a chance of a lifetime to be able to write about this historic figure. He was a last-of-the-breed mountainman, who typified what the world envisions an Alaskan "sourdough" to be. Quite simply, Johnny Luster was Alaska!"
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