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Rudy a Lefty? Yeah, Right.
The Washington Post ^ | October 28, 2007 | David Greenberg

Posted on 10/28/2007 4:43:03 AM PDT by libstripper

You wouldn't know it from reading the papers, but the favorite to win the Republican presidential nomination is a confirmed right-winger. On issues such as free speech and religion, secrecy and due process, civil rights and civil liberties, pornography and democracy, this moralist and self-styled lawman has exhibited all the key hallmarks of Bush-era conservatism.

That candidate is Rudolph W. Giuliani.

As any New Yorker can tell you, the last word anyone in the 1990s would have attached to the brash, furniture- breaking mayor was "liberal" -- and the second-to-last was "moderate." With his take-many-prisoners approach to crime and his unerring pro-police instincts, the prosecutor-turned-proconsul made his mark on the city not by embracing its social liberalism but by trying to crush it.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antigun; autocrat; crossdresser; giuliani; gungrabber; julieannie; liberalstatist; proabortion; rinorudy; rudy; rudygiuliani; rudyisaliberal; sickofrudy; zotbait
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Here's a NY leftie who really hates Rudy. The article gives a good idea of why some of us here on FR are not totally opposed to him.
1 posted on 10/28/2007 4:43:04 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Pro law enforcement is not necessarily right wing. When the laws being enforced are those that infringe upon our rights, I’d say that the enforcer is left wing and pro government.

“Bush era conservative” is an apt description that means not very conservative at all.

That’s why many of us do not like Rudy and will not vote for him.


2 posted on 10/28/2007 4:47:45 AM PDT by Harvey105
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To: Harvey105
Pro law enforcement is not necessarily right wing.

Correct. Authoritarian views have nothing to do with which end of the right-left spectrum.
3 posted on 10/28/2007 4:50:39 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Harvey105

Look...would you rather have the Clintons back for eight years? There wouldn’t be much left of the tenth amendment or the country.

We have to get real.


4 posted on 10/28/2007 4:51:03 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Harvey105

I will not vote for Rudy in the primeries but if he gets he nomination I will vote for him over any of the dems


5 posted on 10/28/2007 4:53:13 AM PDT by TLEIBY308
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To: libstripper
One emblematic act of Giuliani's mayorship was his 1999 attempt to censor an art exhibit because it featured a painting of the Virgin Mary that used an unusual form of mixed media -- clumps of elephant dung, to be precise.

Once again, liberals lie. Rudi found the trash "art" to be offensive but he did not try to censor anything. He felt it should not be displayed in a building that was funded by the taxpayers. Put it in a private museam or collection. Wouldn't vote for Rudi but I agreed with him on this stance.

6 posted on 10/28/2007 4:53:29 AM PDT by gate2wire
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To: libstripper

I found how the World had been misled by prostitute Writers,
to ascribe the greatest Exploits in War to Cowards,
the wisest Counsel to Fools,
Sincerity to Flatterers,
Roman Virtue to Betrayers of their Country,
Piety to Atheists,
Chastity to Sodomites,
Truth to Informers.
(III:8;5)

Jonathan Swift


7 posted on 10/28/2007 4:53:38 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: libstripper

Rino rudy a liberal statist. I will never vote for the pro abortiion, anti gun, pro gay worthless SOB.


8 posted on 10/28/2007 4:55:00 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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"Here's a NY leftie who really hates Rudy."

Baloney.
Reverse psychology.

The libs love McCain, but they'd be comfortable with Julie.

9 posted on 10/28/2007 4:55:09 AM PDT by trickyricky
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To: kjo

For the record I will nver vote for Rino Rudy, I will go third party first.


10 posted on 10/28/2007 4:56:13 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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Rudy a Lefty? Yeah, Right.

As is typical of David Greenberg and his fellow liberals, anyone slightly to the right of Karl Marx could not possibly be a lefty.

11 posted on 10/28/2007 4:56:23 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: libstripper
Voting for the Republicans just because they are not the Democrats is getting old.

I am voting on the ISSUES, not for a fancy Madison Avenue designer label...

NON-NEGOTIABLE issues:

1. War.

2. Border.

3. Terrorism.

4. 2nd Amendment.

Julie-Annie can go to hell and so can the Republicans if they are dumb enough to push that swill...


12 posted on 10/28/2007 4:56:34 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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[I will not vote for Rudy in the primaries but if he gets he nomination I will vote for him over any of the dems]

Why can’t the rino GOP run a conservative? I would find it impossible to vote for a liberal like Rudy or Mitt or McCain.

13 posted on 10/28/2007 4:57:14 AM PDT by kindred (I am voting conservatives like Hunter,or Third Party. No vote for Rudy or other rinos.)
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To: kjo
would you rather have the Clintons back for eight years?

You need to get real. Rudy is not our only option against that.

14 posted on 10/28/2007 4:58:03 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Voting for the Republicans just because they are not the Democrats is getting old.

Amen.

15 posted on 10/28/2007 4:58:55 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

BTTT


16 posted on 10/28/2007 5:01:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Hydroshock
For the record I will nver vote for Rino Rudy, I will go third party first.

Then be prepared to hear the words "President Hillary Clinton" every day for eight long, long years.

17 posted on 10/28/2007 5:01:35 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: libstripper
The game plan to keep the WH and remain alive (literally) is simple. Vote. Vote for Thompson, Huckabee, McCain, Giuliani or WHOMEVER is the nominee but VOTE!!!!!!!

Don’t be like the alleged “conservatives”on this site who I am actually am beginning to believe are plants from KOS or DU no matter how long they have been here.

I refuse to believe anyone would endanger their lives and the lives of their own families just to make a political point (not voting if RG gets the nod)not to mention put an end to our very way of life. This is why I have come to the conclusion that those who say they will stay home or vote third Party are liberals in conservative clothing.

The only other possible excuse is sheer mind numbing stupidity along with a stunning lack of the smallest quantity of common sense.

18 posted on 10/28/2007 5:01:36 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Hydroshock

That’s what the Nader people did in OO. Just enough of them to defeat Gore, thank goodness. Is it really what you want? Why?


19 posted on 10/28/2007 5:03:41 AM PDT by kjo
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To: lowbridge
anyone slightly to the right of Karl Marx could not possibly be a lefty.

And you can guarantee that if Marx were alive, well, and in politics today, there is a contingent on DU that would accuse him of being a FReeper.

20 posted on 10/28/2007 5:03:52 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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