Posted on 10/28/2007 5:24:58 AM PDT by connell
I've been saying for a while that i suspect that Ron Paul's campaign is a creation of the crazy left. I have no proof at this time, but I suspect it nonetheless. Here in Phoenix, there are all sorts of banners hanging in random places, supporting Paul's candidacy. Their colors are red and black, roughly spray-painted with stencils, giving them a look like they're announcing an upcoming gig by a thrash band at a local bar, or an upcoming anarchist event or something. There are two things they DON'T look like: campaign posters and anything done by Republicans. His supporters are hacking into the code of online polls to rig them, they're using guerrilla tactics and anarchist colors to push his candidacy........I have no fact to back up this assertion, but I'm going out on limb to say that his supporters are NOT Republicans. And I have to wonder where his money is coming from. Democrat sources, who see his campaign as a way to cause problems for the Republican nominee? George Soros?
Well, though I don't yet have proof of those, there is now proof that he's receiving money from a 9-11 "truther" moron, and he may also be giving money...
(Excerpt) Read more at modernconservative.com ...
“About who his supporters are?”
Everyone knows who his supporters are. Some just ignore it.
So far the only Ron Paul supporters I have seen are the anti-war, pull out now crowd.
Bingo.
More non-news from a nobody blogger.
Find that 'appeal' curious. Find his appeal, even more curious. . .
His supporters are conservatives, libertarians, and anti-war Democrats. That’s where he gets his money.
Thank heaven not many conservatives are wasting their time on Ron Paul. However, Hillary just needs a few conservatives to get overly devoted to Paul, then stay home in a huff on election day since he isn’t the Republican nominee. Here we go again!
How about the Paulbots try, one time, actually defending some of these highly questionable moves by their guy?
“Here in Phoenix, there are all sorts of banners hanging in random places, supporting Paul’s candidacy.”
Orlando too.
The world situation dramatically changed on 09-11. Try to keep up for once instead of mindlessly clinging to your failed “realists” political dogmas.
Chill out. They are mostly libertarians.
Ya think??
Yes, and that’s why Ron Paul wants the US Military working to defend Americans and American interests, rather than the interests of the United Nations thugocracy.
(As for the '9/11 truther's' - per this article - we know of course, who they are and of the parallel universe they call home.)
“The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we’d have to do once we got there. You’d probably have to put some new government in place. It’s not clear what kind of government that would be, how long you’d have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome of the struggle over who’s going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition of a quagmire.”
A quote from Ron Paul?
NO! Dick Cheney in 1991.
So the truth is the Paulbots cannot actually make a rational case for their god, Der Paul. The whole of Paul's campaign strategy is to simply scream bile and hysteric demagoguery at everyone in an pathetic attempt to hide the truth about Paul's complete unfitness for the office of President.
The FEC has a complete list of who his paying supporters are provided they exceeded the $200 reporting threshold. Feel free to research the connections.
I’m listed, and I’ve been a registered Republican since I was old enough to vote. I was a charter member of Citizens Against Government Waste, and led counter-protests against the anti-war left who wanted to let Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait stand unchallenged while I was in college. My brother and I marched in BDUs waving a Kuwaiti flag at the head of one anti-war march, and the morons were too dumb to recognize it until after the photo was published in the paper.
Why don’t you respond to my point above?
Do you want the US Military and our soldiers wearing the US flag or the UN flag? Do you want them wearing green berets or powder blue? Do you want them serving American commanders and the Commander in Chief, or serving foreign military commanders? Do you want them subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or subject to foreign courts martial run by people who hate Americans? Do you want them protecting the interests of our nation, or the interests of the corrupt United Nations?
Do you think you can make a rational case for turning our soldiers into United Nations errand boys?
Does 9/11 change the truth of anything he said, other than the reason for doing it anyway?
The neo-cons can cause more harm to the USA (and have).
(The neo-cons should all crawl back under the rocks from whence they came)
Did you hear the Ron Paul supporter on the radio with Senator Santorum earlier this week? She was delusional, babbling about the Zionist Conspiracy and the Oil Companies and so forth. Paul is the only man who can save our country from the conspiracy between Zionist Jews and Big Oil. Accused Santorum to his face of being a "Zionist lackey".
A man is known by the company he keeps (and the pig got slowly up and walked away).
I have been involved in leadership positions in the Republican Party since 1968 including eight campaigns; raised money; been Precinct Commiteeman; Convention Delegate at all levels including County, State and Natonal; special counsel to a number of Republican office holders.
WHAT and HOW will a Paul Administration do any of the things he promised?
Take a look at his “issue” page on his campaign website. NOT A WORD about what exactly he would do and how he would do it. Just bunch of talk radio slogans run together screaming bile at everyone and everything.
For people who scream so loud about being “Constitutionalists” you all demonstrate a pretty sever lack of understanding on how our system works. We are electing a President, not a dictator.
So in detail, with specific links to Legislation or programs Dr Paul has offered, show us what and how a Paul Administration would attempt to achieve any of the things he claims he would do. Do NOT tell us what YOU, or other Paulbots THINK he would do. Show us, in detail, what exactly Dr Paul program would be.
Been asking this same question for 3 months. Still no answers from the Paul camp.
This guy’s theory is RP’s supporters are lefties. So, what are they trying to accomplish? Presumably, they are trying to influence the R primaries. But, if only lefties support RP, they’d have to get enough lefties to vote in R primaries to win. Coming second doesn’t do anything. It doesn’t draw campaign donations away from other candidates because remember the original supposition is only lefties support RP. So, why get worked up about RP?
9/11 changed a lot of minds and woke up a lot of people who had been ignoring the previous attacks over the last 20 years.
Pearl Harbor changed a lot of minds too. It was the big event in the lives of my parents and their generation and that generation took care of it.
Is this generation going to take care of this or are they going to elect Ron Paul?
Ron Paul can’t control who calls into a radio show and spouts idiotic bigotry. Unlike Free Republic, he can’t simply revoke their accounts. If he had to disavow every such nutjob he wouldn’t have time for campaigning.
David Duke was a Republican too, and unlike Ron Paul, he actually held such bigoted and racist views and was elected to Congress anyway. Rather than being disowned or driven away, he was appointed to committees in Congress.
“By creating false enemies and an insecure environment, they try to control everything in the name of combating terrorism.”
Who do you think said this? Sounds like a 9/11 truther, right? “Creating false enemies” sounds like those who say al-Qaida is a myth and Bush is the real terrorist. “Control everything to combat terrorism” sounds like something someone against the NSA wiretappings would say. So, was this a quote by a Ron Paulite 9/11 truther?
Nope, it was Ahmadinejad.
George Bush converted to islam when he was AWOL from his ANG unit back in the '70s. Fred Thompson eats unborn babies. Mitt Romney is married to 23 different women. Duncan Hunter owns several munitions factories in red china. John McCain died in captivity... the guy we think is McCain is actually a russian KGB plant. Tom Tancredo is really a illegal immigrant from mexico.
I have no proof of this at this time, but...
Taking his agenda as a whole, Dr Paul demonstrates a complete unfitness for the office of President. His grasp on National Security issues, economics, fiscal policy and Foreign Affairs indicates he not only does not have the slightest clue about modern political realities, he is so arrogantly sure of his own infallibility he simply deny reality to cling to his emotion based political dogmas.
Take, for example the Paul lunacy about "A traditional Non Interventionist Foreign Policy". The USA has NEVER, repeat NEVER, had any such thing.
The Founders fought an Undeclared Naval war with France and fought the Barbary Corsairs. Even in the 1790s defending US National Security required the US to defend itself starts far outside it's own borders.
Dr Paul's arrogant refusal to set aside his emotional based, failed, Isolationist dogmas and confront that factual reality of the modern world indicates he completely lacks the mental qualifications to be President of the USA.
Finally, a RP supporter that explained his position clearly and briefly.
The problem with that position is that it is unworkable and very dangerous in the real world we live in today.
For that position to be operative today would require the destruction of our economy, our financial system, and our energy system.
To claim or infer that our national interests stop at our borders and that nothing beyond them can effect us is dangerously naive and very unrealistic.
To make it workable today would require that no more foreign goods be imported and no US goods be exported - there goes your car, clothes, toys, and probably your job.
The big lie in the RP position is that we can become self-sufficient again, a completely self-contained economy, overnight.
No sale of US government bonds to foreign interests - there goes your house and it’s underlying mortgage because of a suddenly almost nonexistent secondary market. Think the current sub-prime situation is a problem? Just think about what would happen if a good bit of the annual mortgage paper cannot be laid off into foreign markets.
What about energy? Don’t tell me that RP is for drilling in ANWR, off the coast of Florida and California, or is in favor of reopening vast tracts of the West that Clinton executive ordered off the exploration lists.
Where is he on exploiting nuclear power? Is he for a nuke plant anywhere in this country, let alone in his own back yard?
Jobs. Does he realize that over half of the profits of the Fortune 500 companies come from offshore?
Didn’t think so.
Tell him to come back when he fully understands the world economy and our position and responsibilities as the leader and greatest capitalist economy the world has ever seen.
To turn the leadership of this country over to Ron Paul would so severely negatively impact your life, that within a year you would be howling for his impeachment.
Fortunately, he is not a serious candidate, just comic relief.
The Pearl Harbor generation defended Americans and American interests.
They didn’t defeat Japan, support the defense of Mother England, and finally liberate Europe at the behest of a corruption-riddled United Nations or for “humanitarian” reasons, they did so to defend our own national interests and our long-time cultural and political allies, not a bunch of corrupt, repressive America-hating, extremist-nurturing monarchies and dictatorships.
We need to cut our funding of the UN and tell them to get the hell out of New York, and relocate to Venezuela where it’d feel much more at home. Ron Paul has been saying this for years.
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=296
When has Ron Paul said that our national interests stop at our borders?
How does it help a multinational Fortune 500 company to threaten military action or impose sanctions against one of the country where one of their satellite offices is located?
Which leads one to ask, why are all the raving nutters coalescing around Paul? What is attracting them? That's a question he needs to ask himself, and then he needs to do something about it.
He hasn't ever disavowed them that I have heard, which wouldn't take him any time to speak of and would certainly be worth it from a cost-benefit public relations standpoint. Allowing these supporters to rave unchallenged gives a distinct impression that he, at least tacitly, values their support.
The Duke situation proves little if anything nationally, it was partly his local political situation and partly his opponent(s). It's almost a Godwin.
So we are fighting the terrorist because the UN told us to? I did not know that.
Is getting us out of the UN your main reason for supporting Grandpa Paul?
Disengaging enemies and bringing our troops home requires nothing less than exactly that position.
It removes and/or reduces the threat posed to the other 165 or so satellite offices, and our country.
I heard that crazy lady going on and on and on....she was as angry and literally hate-filled as any democrat I’ve heard. She was incapable of doing anything but shouting insults and annoucing she was voting for Ron Paul. I did want to know how Santorum was the “lowest form of Italian” but Medved didn’t let her explain that one.
LOL
I see that a Ron Paul supporter saying "Rooty has all the neo cons." Now what does this mean?
Although I have no doubt that the left is supporting Ron Paul to try to deface the GOP, I believe there are a lot more uber-libertarian, anti-government conspiracy nuts pushing Paul.
But you know what... as crazy as Ron Paul is, I would still trust him LONG before ANY of the Democrat candidates. OF course, that says a lot more negative about the Dems than it does positive for RP.
Usually when somebody says that it means either a dirt-poor peasant farmer or a Neapolitan, or both. Usually said by an urban sophisticate who thinks food comes from a restaurant. (I'm a proud descendant of the Alabama variety of dirt farmer - at least on one side).
So she's not only nutty about the Jews, she's nasty to her own fellow Italians. GREAT job, lady.
So you say vote for the globalist, any globalist...That's the only way this country can survive...
Look at the side bar poll...That poll could very well represent the view of the country...
There something wrong with the people some of you want to run our country...And most of us know it...
There are thousands and thousands of support staff and groups involved with the 'machine' in Washington...The status quo wants a president who will fit in with this regime...
I'd like to see someone get in there who will clean out the regime...
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