Giuliani is GOP's best shot against Hillary, said Ford

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[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

By their nature, people who are as extreme and intolerant as EEE advertises are inherently not credible about anything-- Except their own rigidity and extremism of course

Give me a break. All I want is for the GOP to stop supporting liberal bass turds who are just as liberal as the Dems. The GOP will go out of their way to support RINOs like Schwarzenegger or Rudy, but real conservatives such as Hunter or Tancredo are marginalized and given the shaft. The RNC interfering in primaries and crap with the establishment supporting the incumbent RINO, it's bullcrap. If I want a liberal, I'll just vote for the Democrat.

[Sadecki]

You aren't going to endear anyone with that kind of behavior, let alone convince them to vote for a liberal.

And when EEE told me that he had "disdain" for the republican party I have belonged to for almost 35 years, is that supposed to endear him to me?

[Digger]

Give me a break. All I want is for the GOP to stop supporting liberal bass turds who are just as liberal as the Dems. The GOP will go out of their way to support RINOs like Schwarzenegger or Rudy, but real conservatives such as Hunter or Tancredo are marginalized and given the shaft. The RNC interfering in primaries and crap with the establishment supporting the incumbent RINO, it's bullcrap. If I want a liberal, I'll just vote for the Democrat

This whole process is just a circljerk. The Hildabeast & Rudy. Do you for one second think that those 2 represent America? So how do they get to be our choices? When you figue it out, then you will know that it is a waist of time to cast a vote in this corrupt "Two-Party Cartel". Only doing so gives then credibilty.

[Sadecki]

But why put party obedience over ideology though?

Obediance? You really do hate the republican party don't you? What term are you going to use next for us republicans, "lock-steppers"? Brown shirts? Jeesh.

I do think that party loyalty is important but I don't just mindlessly pull the lever because they have an "R" next to their name -- for example, I voted for Perot because I couldn't abide Bush 41 raising taxes, and even more importantly I was horrified that he didn't remove Saddam during "Desert Storm". I mean who in their right mind would leave a dictator in place after he's invaded their neighbor. especially when you have over 500,000 troops right there to do the job. Anyway, don't get me started.

As for my ideology -- I have a diverse set of views like most people have. I'm not a single issue person. I don't see the world as black or white. And the party that best reflects my overall views is the Republicans. Which is why I am a proud, card carrying member of the GOP.

He said no such thing. Please find the link. He has stated several times, most recently during an interview with CBS, that he has no plans for a 3rd party run.

I'll try to look for it after this post. It was a few days ago during an interview, Paul did not rule out a 3rd party run.

Because I want Paul to continue to rebuild the GOP

Given all the boos he recieved at the last debate, he might have his membership revoked before he has the chance to do any rebuilding.

He's bringing in new voters, libertarians, constitutionalists, and traditional liberals back into the GOP

How so? You haven't joined the GOP yet. And I haven't seen any spike in GOP membership at all since he joined the 2008 fray. Where's your proof?

[Sadecki]

All I want is for the GOP to stop supporting liberal bass turds who are just as liberal as the Dems.

But that is not a true statement at all.

Even on the abortion issue -- where the democrats all support abortion on demand without any restrictions and will appint liberal judges -- Rudy supports abortion with many restrictions and appointing conservative judges in the mold of Alito and Roberts. That is a huge huge difference.

So the argument that a vote for rudy is no different than a vote for hillary is a dishonest one.

[Little Bill]

The difference between my Fathers Republican Party and my Grand Fathers Republican Party and What I would like My Republican Party to be is Jerry Ford, RINO.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Obediance? You really do hate the republican party don't you?

When they support RINOs over conservatives, and act like wussies when Dems attack them....yeah, you can say that I'm not pleased.

I'll try to look for it after this post. It was a few days ago during an interview, Paul did not rule out a 3rd party run.

You won't find the quote even if Caterpillar was your search engine. HE AIN'T RUNNING AS A 3RD PARTY CANDIDATE.

Given all the boos he recieved at the last debate, he might have his membership revoked before he has the chance to do any rebuilding.

You and I both know that those audience members were paid shills for Fox.

How so? You haven't joined the GOP yet. And I haven't seen any spike in GOP membership at all since he joined the 2008 fray. Where's your proof?

Peep Paul's grassroot support. Democrats and independents are registering as Republicans to vote for him. If the GOP embraces some of his views and if Paul endorses the nominee (should he lose) and stop attracting these moonbats, most of these people will end up voting for the GOP nominee in the general.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Rudy supports abortion with many restrictions

Rudy told CNN he supports taxpayer funded abortions back in April. He has publicly supported partial-birth abortions. He gave a speech to NARAL. NARAL even donated more money to him over Hillary in the NY Senate race. Get real.

and appointing conservative judges in the mold of Alito and Roberts. That is a huge huge difference.

That's all election-year talk to pull the wool over conservative's eyes. Sorry I ain't buying it.

[Hydroshock]

Rino Rudy is pro abortion, rsstrictions or no. He is for killing babies. I will never vote for the worthless SOB.

[Sadecki]

He said no such thing. Please find the link. He has stated several times, most recently during an interview with CBS, that he has no plans for a 3rd party run.

"Paul Leaves Third Party Door Open An Inch

During an MSNBC interview Wednesday, Rep. Ron Paul was asked if he would run for president as a third-party candidate. Paul replied, "No, I don't plan to run in a third party. That's not my goal. But if we have a candidate that loves the war and loves the neocon position of promoting--" Interviewer Norah O'Donnell cut Paul off at that point, and did not return to the topic during the rest of the interview." http://politicalinsider.com/2007/10/paul_does_not.html

PS: really bad reporting job by Norah O'Donnell. How could she cut him off right then. What an idiot

[calcowgirl]

And when EEE told me that he had "disdain" for the republican party I have belonged to for almost 35 years, is that supposed to endear him to me?

You can't see the difference between throwing personal insults at an individual freeper vs. making a criticism of the Republican Party?

I've belonged to that same party for just about as long, and I have plenty of criticisms too. Do you take that as a personal insult? If so, why?

[Sadecki]

Peep Paul's grassroot support. Democrats and independents are registering as Republicans to vote for him.

Proof?

I don't disagree that democrats and independents like yourself who have "disadain" for republicans will likely try to hijack primaries in smaller states.

But please provide some proof that this is happening since you seem so sure that it is.

[merry10]

I agree with everything you say EXCEPT for the Latino slander. I don’t get that. But I think you are right about Rudy.

[barnicus]

I'm sorry. Duncan who?

Duncan Hunter

[ex-snook]

"Rino Rudy is pro abortion, restrictions or no. He is for killing babies. I will never vote for the worthless SOB."

Amen. Rudy if you are dependent on me, you're dead man walking.

[ex-snook]

"In fact, I can’t even listen to people like Pat Buchanan anymore without gagging."

What is it you don't like? Pat's anti-abortion position, his anti-illegal immigration views? Pat's trade deal with China is hurting American jobs? His foreign entangling opposition will bring war to our shore? Then again maybe you think we should be the world's policeman and die to bring democracy to the world, Pat doesn't.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

"But if we have a candidate that loves the war and loves the neocon position of promoting..."

Then that means he won't endorse the nominee, not run as a 3rd party candidate. Check out the post-debate interview with Hannity - he said endorsing the nominee (if they continued the war) would "undo everything he has believed in for 30 years." He also told Hannity he wouldn't run 3rd party, and he has personally told his wife of 50 years that he will not run as a 3rd party or independent candidate. It ain't happening, forget it.

Proof? I don't disagree that democrats and independents like yourself who have "disadain" for republicans will likely try to hijack primaries in smaller states.

There is no hijacking. Paul is one of two candidate who can get independent and swing voters over to the GOP.

But please provide some proof that this is happening since you seem so sure that it is.

The man just raised $5.3 million last quarter! He's got hundreds of volunteers working for him for FREE. Where do you think this support is coming from? Use your head!

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

BTTT!

[Calpernia]

If you think that one is bad, try the whole thread. I didn’t post it to be gross. This is the group Rudy is a member of and gets donations from AND partnered NYC with. Oh, let’s not forget the parties at the mansion.

[Calpernia]

Well, I’m writing in Hydroshock in my candidate isn’t in the general. So you may want to prepare for stand bye.