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Food price controls likely, says UN
Financial Times ^ | October 29 2007 02:00 | By Javier Blas in London

Posted on 10/29/2007 4:28:25 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

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To: LegendHasIt

Doubling the price of wheat or corn should only add about 15 cents to a loaf of bread or a box of cornflakes. However, grain fed meat will go up significantly.

The only real problem with ethanol economically is that it is subsidized. If it weren’t and the same were happening, people would just be spending there money on food instead of fuel (assuming it could compete), an even swap. But now they are spending more for taxes and more for food, without a matching drop in fuel prices.


21 posted on 10/29/2007 5:11:55 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: metesky

He has a very good grasp of electoral politics.


22 posted on 10/29/2007 5:18:53 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

As history has shown, food price controls = food shortages. Free market with limited Gov intervention = full shelves. Just look at the difference between the old USSR and USA.


23 posted on 10/29/2007 5:19:00 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: LonePalm
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you make people burn food for fuel instead of oil for fuel, there is going to be less food and hence higher priced food.

A more politically palatable answer than the fact that the US dollar is being grossly inflated.

24 posted on 10/29/2007 5:20:57 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: advance_copy
The UN is predicting more food price controls, not calling for them.

Which is not to say that I disagree with your observation in general.

25 posted on 10/29/2007 5:22:10 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: LegendHasIt

I agree but it has also been true that corn has been subsidized and protected from competitors, especially foreign. For example, most grass fed cows are from south and central america and most sugar cane is also foreign import. So i wouldn’t be so surprised that the preponderance of corn-fed beef and HPCS is due to protectionism


26 posted on 10/29/2007 5:22:45 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I was over there when they had food lines. It was an odd thing to witness. People waiting on street corners in long lines just to buy a bunch of strawberries.


27 posted on 10/29/2007 5:23:33 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: headsonpikes

If the food riots become severe enough, your name may become prophetic.


28 posted on 10/29/2007 5:24:15 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: No Truce With Kings

Not for the enforcers of the price controls.


29 posted on 10/29/2007 5:24:41 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: SampleMan

It isn’t merely doubling the price of corn; If it were, I’d agree with you.

The price of tortillas (corn) in Mexico has gone up 1000% in the last three years.

Unlike America, Canada, etc, where adding 15 cents to the price of a loaf of bread is barely significant; In second and third world countries where there is already a shortage of the staple foods, diverting ANY of it to fuel production is going to be a disaster.


30 posted on 10/29/2007 5:27:44 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Oh yes he does. He’ll grab the “money for nothin’ and your chicks for free” crowd, which appears to be most of the Russian populace.


31 posted on 10/29/2007 5:31:59 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

everyone here is missing the point.

the UN guy is arguing that rich countries, and others,
are selfish for using cropland to grow biofuel.
Obviously, he won’t say that directly.
Some people expect farmers to make decisions
based on altruism, instead of economics.


32 posted on 10/29/2007 5:32:44 AM PDT by djxu456
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To: metesky
He’ll grab the “money for nothin’ and your chicks for free” crowd, which appears to be most of the Russian populace.

Yeah, well, given the current state of the US presidential nominating process, I'm not throwing stones.

33 posted on 10/29/2007 5:33:34 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: djxu456
Some people expect farmers to make decisions based on altruism, instead of economics.

Without addressing the UN's concern, I think the problem isn't with farmers making decisions based on economics, but the decision-making based on subsidies.

34 posted on 10/29/2007 5:35:26 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Hey UN. Ask the folks of Venezuela about price controls.
35 posted on 10/29/2007 5:35:43 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Sorry Mr. BOR.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Yes...yes...implement the Zimbabwean economic model....Yea..that’s the ticket!
36 posted on 10/29/2007 5:38:32 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: cbkaty

Are they driving the farmers off their farms as well?


37 posted on 10/29/2007 5:39:17 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: 4yearlurker

The people of Venezuela are only allowed to speak through their designated representatives.


38 posted on 10/29/2007 5:40:02 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: WLR

There’s nothing inherently dumb about using what we normally think of food plants for fuel. There are some situations where you just have surplus, and it makes more sense to use it for fuel.

The problem is when you subsidize it.

We are seeing how government subsidies distort the market.


39 posted on 10/29/2007 5:41:47 AM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Touché.


40 posted on 10/29/2007 5:42:20 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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