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Japanese Ship Hijacked In Africa
BBC ^ | 10-29-2007

Posted on 10/29/2007 8:16:36 AM PDT by blam

Japanese ship hijacked in Africa

Pirates have hijacked a Japanese ship off the East African coast - the latest in a series of similar incidents near the war-torn country of Somalia.

The vessel, thought to be a tanker with a crew of Burmese, Philippine and South Korean sailors, was seized in the Gulf of Aden early on Sunday.

Officials say they are trying to find out what the pirates' demands are.

The area is notorious for piracy - of 16 reported hijackings worldwide this year, 11 were off the Somali coast.

Lawless waters

The International Maritime Bureau (IMB) said they received a distress call from the vessel in the Gulf of Aden on Sunday.

"We tried to contact the vessel, but there was absolutely no contact," the IMB's Cyrus Mody told BBC News.

He said coalition forces in the area were contacted, and they confirmed the ship had been taken into Somali territorial waters.

There are thought to be 23 crew members on board the vessel, none of whom is Japanese.

The incident comes two weeks after a cargo ship was hijacked on its way to Mombasa in Kenya.

The IMB said there was still no information on the safety of the crew.

Analysts say Somali waters are increasingly lawless, and merchant ships are advised to stay 200 miles from its shores.

The IMB rates Somalia as the second most high risk country for piracy in the world, after Indonesia.


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KEYWORDS: hijacked; japan; piracy; pirates; ship; somali
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1 posted on 10/29/2007 8:16:36 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Q-ships.


2 posted on 10/29/2007 8:17:22 AM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: blam

Hard to believe there are still pirates in the world. Even when I was a kid I thought they were the stuff of legends.


3 posted on 10/29/2007 8:20:07 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: blam

I’m still amazed they don’t put guns on the decks of these ships.


4 posted on 10/29/2007 8:23:36 AM PDT by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Someone around here has a chart showing global warming is caused by a lack of pirates and charts the loss of pirates with the increase in temp.

So, I’m glad to see them come back and save the planet.


5 posted on 10/29/2007 8:24:28 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: null and void

Honor would recognize a Q ship. Not the IMB.


6 posted on 10/29/2007 8:25:44 AM PDT by Amadeo
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To: blam
Arleigh Burke Class (Aegis), Guided Missile Destroyers, USA

Pirate medicine.

7 posted on 10/29/2007 8:28:35 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: blam

nijas vs pirates. Looks like the pirates win this time. arrrrrgh


8 posted on 10/29/2007 8:31:42 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: blam

A brace of 20mm guns is enough. How hard is it to mount those?


9 posted on 10/29/2007 8:38:29 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: Rennes Templar

There have always been pirates, and always will be as long as there are men who go down to the sea in ships.......


10 posted on 10/29/2007 8:38:45 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: blam

Of all the nations on the Earth, I think the Phillipines have the best punishment for pirates. The law on the books says “electrocuted until they catch fire.”


11 posted on 10/29/2007 8:43:28 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: null and void

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/


12 posted on 10/29/2007 8:44:29 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: blam
Off the coast of Somalia??? I put money on the probability that they are Muslim pirates.
13 posted on 10/29/2007 8:45:30 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: blam

How about the US Navy quietly creating a Qship that looks like a normal tanker/freighter, but contains a couple of squads of heavily armed Marines along with a couple of concealed M2’s and a 40mm cannon? Then send it in trolling in these areas.


14 posted on 10/29/2007 8:46:25 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: Amadeo
"Honor would recognize a Q ship. Not the IMB."

She would then proceed to chase it down and obliterate it with a massive broadside of bomb-pumped laser warhead torpedoes!
15 posted on 10/29/2007 8:52:01 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: Seruzawa
It's not hard at all, and they've got a naval variant of the more modern 25mm Bushmaster:

I saw part of a documentary on the History Channel last week about the return of pirates; they had some sea lawyer on it who stated that it was against "International Law"© to arm merchant ships -- the international version of "gun control."

We can see how well that's working...

16 posted on 10/29/2007 8:56:40 AM PDT by JMK (One of the lucky few -- escaped from NJ during the Florio years!)
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To: Anti-Hillary
Off the coast of Somalia??? I put money on the probability that they are Muslim pirates.

Yup, just doin' the lord (Allah) work. (In their eyes, anyway.)

17 posted on 10/29/2007 8:57:11 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Pistolshot

Better pirate medicine would be to have a Predator-B flying high, and just taking out any craft that looks like a pirate craft approaching a merchant ship


18 posted on 10/29/2007 8:58:15 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: BuffaloJack

Interesting!


19 posted on 10/29/2007 9:00:35 AM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: JMK

Stick the guns on any how and tell the lawyers they can arrest the crews themselves. I’d pay to see that.


20 posted on 10/29/2007 9:04:17 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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To: Seruzawa; blam
A brace of 20mm guns is enough.

That would work

How hard is it to mount those?

Technically not hard at all. Legally virtually impossible. After all if people were allowed to mount guns on their ships we might have piracy. (Oh we already do. I guess gun control on the ocean doesn't work any better than gun control in Wash DC.)

21 posted on 10/29/2007 9:04:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: blam

They want what all pirates want. Rum and women.


22 posted on 10/29/2007 9:06:50 AM PDT by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Rennes Templar

Hard to believe there are still pirates in the world. Even when I was a kid I thought they were the stuff of legends.
I saw a program on the History Channel recently on the history of piracy. Pirates not only still exist, but are actually thriving in multiple areas of the world like the African coasts, Indonesia, and, yes, even in the Caribbean. Apparently, during the Cold War the strong presence of American and Soviet navies around the world significantly reduced piracy everywhere. Since the Cold War ended ("ended"), piracy has been on the rise as both powers have reduced their naval presences.

Nowadays, the sea is full of massive, lightly defended container ships that make excellent targets for pirates. They pull up in small fast boats, sneak aboard, subdue the minimal number of guards, and either go for the safe or hold the crew for ransom. The latter has apparently become the the most profitable venture. They go for the captain and engineer and take all the paperwork so they know who to contact for the ransom. The shipping companies obviously would never admit they pay these guys, but apparently tens of millions of dollars changes hands every year.

It was an interesting program.
23 posted on 10/29/2007 9:07:42 AM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: blam

Blackwater Security should go nautical.


24 posted on 10/29/2007 9:09:34 AM PDT by AU72
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To: According2RecentPollsAirIsGood

Thanks, very interesting.


25 posted on 10/29/2007 9:09:51 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Seruzawa; All
a couple of 25mm chain guns would do just fine. Low cost,low maintenance, lots of impact on anybody trying to do mischief near your ship.
26 posted on 10/29/2007 9:16:06 AM PDT by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: JMK
There is only one (1) way to deal with these damn lawyers who insist the Free world dies.


27 posted on 10/29/2007 9:34:40 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: TMSuchman; All

Shot density is the name of the game.

Check video on the left for proof. I am a believer.

http://dillonaero.com/videos.html


28 posted on 10/29/2007 9:37:03 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: Diogenesis

LOL!!


29 posted on 10/29/2007 9:37:58 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: JMK

Where do the pirates register their guns?


30 posted on 10/29/2007 9:41:44 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
They go for the captain and engineer and take all the paperwork so they know who to contact for the ransom. The shipping companies obviously would never admit they pay these guys, but apparently tens of millions of dollars changes hands every year.

Thomas Jefferson refused to pay protection money to the Barbary pirates. Europe was ready with cash in hand. As they are today when their citizens are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists.

Same as it ever was.

31 posted on 10/29/2007 9:44:15 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: weegee
At the sheriff’s AAAAAARRRRRfice?
32 posted on 10/29/2007 9:47:46 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: from occupied ga
Most of the tinpot dictators, worldwide, are horrified at the very idea of the peasants getting guns. Try to sailing in the Woest Indies, or the South Pacific, or anywhere else, including New York harbor, with a stainless Mini-14. Having it on board is enough to buy you a few years in some Third World horror show.

On top of which, any history of piracy points out that pirates can't function without a safe port to hide in and sell booty. That means corrupt port officials, and a corrupt government getting it's share of the swag.

33 posted on 10/29/2007 9:50:20 AM PDT by jonascord (Hurray! for the Bonny Blue Flag that bears the Single Star!)
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To: weegee
There is a difference. The Islamic terrorists have weapons undreamed of previously
and a hoard of docile dhimmis running the West and the MSM.


34 posted on 10/29/2007 9:51:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: jonascord
Most of the tinpot dictators, worldwide, are horrified at the very idea of the peasants getting guns

Hillary Clinton, Rudy Guiliani, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Osama Obama (or whatever his name is) all hate the idea of peasants with guns for the exact same reason that you mentioned.

35 posted on 10/29/2007 9:57:28 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: All
What do you call al-queda pirates?
36 posted on 10/29/2007 10:00:24 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: WakeUpAndVote
Terrorist AAAARRRRRRganization........... Come on, it's a slow Monday.
37 posted on 10/29/2007 10:02:35 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: TMSuchman
a couple of 25mm chain guns would do just fine

And the ship would be seized by the “authorities” of whatever port they put into. These are the same “authorities” that of course provide NO protection on the high seas, but the concept of gun control seems to be very popular with governments.Just look at the douche bag from Jersey Xao Bi Den, who reintroduced another civilian disarmament bill.

And just which pompous jerk on this forum was it who told me that the democrats were not going to push gun control because it cost them seats in 1994(I know it wasn't you) He made an special point of telling me I was paranoid. I wish I could remember so I could ram those word down his throat.

38 posted on 10/29/2007 10:06:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Rennes Templar
Hard to believe there are still pirates in the world. Even when I was a kid I thought they were the stuff of legends.

The legends are the stereotypical pirates with the various beard colors, peg-legs, bandanas, skull and crossbones flags, etc. The real ones are still out there.

39 posted on 10/29/2007 10:09:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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To: null and void

Wonder how many FReepers know what a Q-ship is??


40 posted on 10/29/2007 10:15:42 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Lazarus Longer
So, I guess this one wouldn't count then.


41 posted on 10/29/2007 10:16:15 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: WakeUpAndVote; All

Shot density maybe great, but you also need PUNCH to tear up the boats that are used aginst actual shipping. this is why the MARINE CORPS & the AC-130’s use them. If the sob’s are sinking they are NO threat to you & your ship.


42 posted on 10/29/2007 10:17:07 AM PDT by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

That person would suffer a terrible fate amongst real pirates.


43 posted on 10/29/2007 10:19:00 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

That pic must be rated ARRRRR!!


44 posted on 10/29/2007 10:25:41 AM PDT by waverna
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To: WakeUpAndVote

If you really loved me, you’d get me one for Christmas...


45 posted on 10/29/2007 10:26:20 AM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Wonder how many FReepers know what a Q-ship is??

Enough.

46 posted on 10/29/2007 10:31:22 AM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: null and void; All

A “Q” ship was a decoy sub destroyer, used by the Brit’s during WWI & WWII. they were usally effective at having the Germans staying down when they were in the area.


47 posted on 10/29/2007 10:35:24 AM PDT by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: blam

Dangerous Waters is a book that shows the 21st century pirate problem is increasing, not abating.

Piracy are getting worse, especially around the Muslim countries - although there is a problem in this hemisphere as well. Some parts of the global oceans and waterways are essentially lawless. Even the largest ships, such as super tankers, are habitually in danger and frequently boarded and robbed by bands of pirates. Sometimes the ships are actually hijacked, the crew murdered or put in slavery, and the ships turned into false-flagged "ghost" ships, run by criminal syndicates for stolen or dangerous cargo. They can also be used as part of an Al Qaeda Navy.

Heaven help you if you are on a private boat trying to navigate some of these waters!

48 posted on 10/29/2007 10:35:39 AM PDT by Gritty (We are now into the first great war between nations and networks - John Arquilla)
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To: JMK
stated that it was against "International Law"© to arm merchant ships

So, flag them as "naval auxilliaries".

49 posted on 10/29/2007 10:38:49 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (...and there is no new thing under the sun.. Ecclesiastes 1:9 [KJV])
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To: blam
Boarding a large vessel that doesn't want to be boarded isn't so easy. Even if the small craft gets close enough to attach grappling hooks, 6 inch water cannons aimed into the small craft should be able to ruin the pirates day.

What's probably needed on the merchant vessels is an ability to remotely operate the water cannons in order to protect the crew from direct fire.

50 posted on 10/29/2007 10:42:56 AM PDT by fso301
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