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O.C. Sheriff Carona indicted (Orange County, CA)
LA Times ^ | 10.30.07 | Christine Hanley, H.G. Reza and Paul Pringle, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

Posted on 10/29/2007 10:49:28 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Orange County Sheriff Michael S. Carona has been indicted on federal corruption charges stemming from a lengthy investigation into allegations that he misused his office for financial gain, law enforcement officials said Monday.

The indictment, filed under seal, is expected to be made public soon, perhaps as early as Tuesday, officials said.

Carona's longtime political advisor and attorney, Michael Schroeder, said federal authorities had not questioned the sheriff, nor officially informed him that he was the target of a federal investigation. Schroeder, who was in Amsterdam on business, also said that rumors of the investigation had not distracted Carona from his job

"He's focused on the fires," said Schroeder, who does not represent Carona on criminal matters.

Carona's defense attorney, H. Dean Steward, did not return a call to his cellphone. The sheriff did not respond to a request for an interview.

An indictment would mark a spectacular fall for the 52-year-old sheriff, who only five years ago was widely seen as a rising star in California Republican Party politics. Carona received widespread attention in 2002 after he led the search for the killer of a 5-year-old girl, Samantha Runnion, whose kidnapping and murder captivated the nation. In the months after that case, Carona was often mentioned as a possible candidate for lieutenant governor on a slate with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

But even as he gained attention in the political realm, Carona was coming under attack from critics who accused him of improper management and ethical lapses. His conduct had hurt the department's integrity and morale, according to the critics, who pointed in particular to allegations that he had issued badges and concealed-weapons permits to campaign contributors without proper training or background checks. Carona denied the badges were political favors and said his conduct was proper.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; beserkcop; carona; donutwatch; dounutwatch; indictment; leo; mikecarona; orangecounty; police

1 posted on 10/29/2007 10:49:29 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; JohnnyZ; Kuksool; ...

*ping*


2 posted on 10/29/2007 10:51:05 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Brad's Gramma; kellynla

yikes


3 posted on 10/29/2007 10:51:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

I’m not sure from reading this what exactly is alleged.


4 posted on 10/29/2007 10:53:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: BurbankKarl

All along, I’ve felt that TPTB were out to get him...I’m not sure who that would be...but he’s done alright for OC (IMHO)!


5 posted on 10/29/2007 10:55:55 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Not surprising.


6 posted on 10/29/2007 10:56:02 PM PDT by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: BurbankKarl

I hate to see it when an officer goes bad, and a guy at this level is so much worse. This will just tarnish the good people in an honorable, tough and necessary profession.

To the good police officers out there, good for you. I salute you.


7 posted on 10/29/2007 10:56:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We yen to be numba one. We find Crintons to be vewy good people. Worth every penny.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Spent $130,000 of re election money on personal expenses, and handing out badges and CCWs to contributors without background checks or training. We will see tomorrow what else there is.


8 posted on 10/29/2007 10:56:42 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Of course the MSM has to mention that he is a Republican.


9 posted on 10/29/2007 11:02:12 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: BurbankKarl

Was this the guy who’s son was arrested for rape or some such????


10 posted on 10/29/2007 11:03:13 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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Apparently not, I was thinking of Youngblood, and both his sons have been arrested before. One for DUI and the other for drug trafficking.


11 posted on 10/29/2007 11:09:58 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Rumors about these problems and more surfaced during the last election.

It also didn’t help that after the election he seemed to have a vendetta out for the guy who ran against him during the election, a current sheriff deputy at the time.

It is also an open secret that getting concealed carry in Orange County is next to impossible, so his giving them to campaign contributors is an extra no-no.


12 posted on 10/29/2007 11:30:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

It also came out during the last election that he was a big supporter of illegal aliens.

That might explain the support he has gotten from GWB in the past.


13 posted on 10/29/2007 11:31:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: rednesss; Travis McGee
...Arrested for rape?.... No, his chief of volunteers, a deputy chief who made beau coup campaign contributions had son who videotaped himself and buddies molesting a passed out female.

His under-sheriff, who's name eludes me was also nailed for corruption.

At the risk of being accused of being single minded, I got to tell you, law enforcement in Southern California went to hell during the 80's.

All those things that were going on in Mena, were also occurring in southern California.

Looking back with understanding that can only come from spiritual growth ..... Man what an era.

Makes Al Capone look tame.

14 posted on 10/29/2007 11:36:51 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Innocent until proven guilty.


15 posted on 10/29/2007 11:40:23 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: BurbankKarl

Was afraid CCW would come up in the charges. But, if true, it might help create a uniform CCW policy in this crazy state. The discretionary issuance model has always been ripe for abuse and in most counties has always been abused.

Now it might be that people who received permits offered up donations to his campaign simply because they felt they needed to keep him in office, due to the fact that the discretionary model meant they could lose their permits if he lost his seat... but that’s a bit of a stretch.

I look forward to seeing all the charges.


16 posted on 10/29/2007 11:46:06 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

That’s a good admonition. Thanks for making the point.


17 posted on 10/29/2007 11:52:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We yen to be numba one. We find Crintons to be vewy good people. Worth every penny.)
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To: rednesss
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/abox/article_1046827.php

Here's a link to where when Jarillio (the Asst. Sheriff) got caught, he threw down Corona's mistress, or in cop vernacular, Corona's 10-35 action LOL.

18 posted on 10/29/2007 11:59:13 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: monkeyshine
Was afraid CCW would come up in the charges. But, if true, it might help create a uniform CCW policy in this crazy state.

You've got to be kidding. There is NO WAY any such "uniform CCW policy" would be anything less than effectively revoking virtually all of the outstanding permits.

19 posted on 10/29/2007 11:59:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: DoughtyOne

But you are right, when the people we think are the best are shown to be among the worst - and corruption in high places, though seemingly ubiquitous, is among the worst imho - then it is a damn shame. Let’s just see what the charges are, and what comes of them.

As an aside, there have been quite a number of federal charges brought under the Bush justice department against local department heads. I’m all for clean government and maybe, just maybe, the feds have a raison d’etre if the states can’t police their own.

It’s hard for me to admit my state could be as bad as Illinois :-)


20 posted on 10/30/2007 12:00:34 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Carry_Okie

It depends on how it gets resolved. Check out the work Jim March has put into this issue.

The bottom line just might be that the local police and sheriffs have enough lobbying power to find a medium that would loosen the rules without totally removing the decision from their bureaus. The legislature couldn’t get away with writing a law that gives police, judges, politicians and political aids CCW permits, but nobody else. They’d need to come up with a uniform standard for granting them. In some places that might be more restrictive, in others more lax... but the cronyist system cannot stand, and it truly makes no sense that people in one county can get permits valid throughout the state thus allowing them to take their CWs into counties that grant virtually none. We have a double-double class system for permits that begs to be abused.

Oh, and it’s racist too.

Sure I’m dreaming a bit... but reform has to start somewhere.


21 posted on 10/30/2007 12:10:24 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: SoConPubbie; Blue Collar Republican
I want to see Ruckaush (sp) the DA go down next ;^)
22 posted on 10/30/2007 1:49:41 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: BurbankKarl

I think they are out to get Mike Corona. I hope he can fight this/ and that it is bogus. He is a very clear=thinker, a manly man who says what he thinks. Obviously he has offended some. I hope this is trumped up AND that he fights it. I’d love to see him in California politics. (Any locals who know more about this? I’m in LA).


23 posted on 10/30/2007 5:26:33 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: monkeyshine

The more CCWs down here the better. The criminals, of course, have access to all sorts of firearms, but for those of us who just want to carry a gun for protection, it is very difficult. Of course he should give them away. It’s the Second Amendment.


24 posted on 10/30/2007 5:36:10 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: monkeyshine

I don’t believe the policy should come from Sacto. What? More bureaucracy? More control from the top? More chance that the libs would tighten it up and we would have to burn all guns. Should be written into law from the Feds and then allowed across the board in the whole country. Wait, it IS!! 2nd Amendment.


25 posted on 10/30/2007 5:38:14 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: BurbankKarl

Their treasurer Chriss Street may be next. Street sure did a job on the people of Elba, AL and Dorsey Trailers.


26 posted on 10/30/2007 5:43:01 AM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: trumandogz

“Of course the MSM has to mention that he is a Republican.”


I think it’s perfectly legitimate to mention the political affiliation of an elected official; I just wish that the media were as diligent in disclosing the political affiliation of Democrat elected officials who are accused of crimes.


27 posted on 10/30/2007 6:40:17 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: BurbankKarl
the 52-year-old sheriff, who only five years ago was widely seen as a rising star in California Republican Party politics.

If he was a RAT, it would be excused.

28 posted on 10/30/2007 6:58:21 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: monkeyshine

Carona has always been good on CCW, from my understanding is that, under Carona, OC has been one of the easiest counties to get a CCW.


29 posted on 10/30/2007 7:01:09 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: BurbankKarl
But even as he gained attention in the political realm, Carona was
coming under attack from critics who accused him of improper management
and ethical lapses.


If the charges are factual, the major crime Carona is guilty of is...
thinking he could get away with the stuff Democrats do all the time.

I hope Carona convincingly "beats the rap".
He was a good "frontman" for the effort to track down that killer
of the little girl a couple of years back.
30 posted on 10/30/2007 7:11:16 AM PDT by VOA
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To: investigateworld
The Orange County Register reported in April 2003 that Orange County sheriff's helicopters had been used as flying limousines at least 16 times in the past year, zipping sheriff Mike Carona, his staff and others to award ceremonies, television interviews, the airport and a Lake Arrowhead retreat. "In 2003, while still on the job, the Register reported, Jaramillo paid $241 to the county after it was discovered he had used a department helicopter for a trip from Mission Viejo to the Long Beach Airport with his wife, Lisa.

Jaramillo said that trip was investigated and addressed, and he shouldn't be charged with any improprieties.

Jaramillo alluded to rumors of another helicopter ride, this one involving Carona and what Jaramillo said was the sheriff's "longtime mistress.""

Sounds like this Carona guy is as clean as the driven snow. Nothing to see here, move along.......

31 posted on 10/30/2007 8:53:11 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: P8riot

As a former resident of the OC, active in CCW issues, and a former OC CCW holder, it’s my understanding that Carona did, in fact, make CCWs easier to get in the early part of his first term. After that, however, those that did not donate to, or otherwise support, him after getting a CCW, did not have their CCWs renewed, and new applications were rejected at a rate similar to LA. This is based on anecdotal evidence (which I admit isn’t really evidence at all, but it’s all I got).

In the last race for OC Sheriff, one of the candidates, Jim Hunt, ran on a campaign program to make OC truly “shall issue.” Mr. Hunt was defeated in the polls, then allegedly illegally retaliated against by Mr. Carona for daring to run against him.

Just some more information about the politics of CCW in the OC.


32 posted on 10/30/2007 9:51:18 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: rednesss
Nothing Corona does/did raises to the level of that corrupt sheriff in adjoining San Bernardino County (the one who stole 1,000+ guns from the evidence locker), plus he'd use the departmental aircraft to go deer hunting in Colorado + a ton of other stuff. But, both he and his flunky Jarmillo are of Hispanic heritage and left the Reservation of the "D" Party.

Both were put on notice by the Republicans there, they'd be under the gun, but in both cases, the small head did the thinking.

Whoever did the vetting of these guys for the Bureau is prolly on their way to BFE.

Both were legendary "hounds", and any courthouse flunky could have told the investigator that.

Don't anyone waste a moment of sympathy for Corona, he did it all to himself.

33 posted on 10/30/2007 9:59:51 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
After that, however, those that did not donate to, or otherwise support, him after getting a CCW, did not have their CCWs renewed, and new applications were rejected at a rate similar to LA.

Not true....

34 posted on 10/30/2007 10:23:17 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: investigateworld

Yeah but they threw the book at Tidwell, oh well maybe having all the felonies reduced to misdemeanors and given 3 years of probation isn’t exactly getting the book thrown at you. I’m sure that the judge would have treated any of us the exact same way. </sarc>


35 posted on 10/30/2007 10:33:29 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Interesting. I grew up in Orange County (Orange, Costa Mesa, Huntington Beach) back in the 60’s and 70’s. I was initially pleased to hear that Carona was CCW friendly, but I hadn’t heard the other part of the story. Thanks for enlightening me.


36 posted on 10/30/2007 10:54:35 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Somebody needs to write a book on all of the scandals surrounding Carona. Jaramillo, Haidl. Then the guy who got the CCW and used his gun to threaten somebody on the golf course. Another gun that showed up in the possession of the Uppsula Mafia guy that crashed his Ferrari. I can’t remember them all, but there is lots of great material to work from.


37 posted on 10/30/2007 11:02:19 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: rednesss
LOL!

Plus the Fed's let him slide on the machine gun beef.

You know there's still almost a thousand missing guns? Word on the street: they went to Nicaragua. It's a strong possibility, in Cali there are no private party sales; all firearms have to go thru NCIC and not one of the missing guns has ever hit.

38 posted on 10/30/2007 11:28:57 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: investigateworld; All

http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2007-10/33557292.pdf

Sheriff Carona, his wife and his mistress named in the indictment.

Hadl wore a wire in one meeting which Carona tried to persuade him not to testify truthfully to the grand jury


39 posted on 10/30/2007 11:50:28 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
"... particular to allegations that he had issued badges and concealed-weapons permits to campaign contributors without proper training or background checks"

And this would make them more dangerous than the proper trained people we see everyday in the news?

40 posted on 10/30/2007 11:51:30 AM PDT by moonman
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To: EternalVigilance
I'm not sure from reading this what exactly is alleged.

Here is an excerpt from another article:

Sheriff Carona indicted on public corruption charges

SNIP

Orange County's top lawman has been charged with seven felony counts that he illegally accepted money, high-priced gifts and tickets to exclusive sporting events, and made loans to his girlfriend in exchange for favors, according to an indictment expected to be unsealed today.

SNIP

Carona, 52, is also charged with witness tampering for attempting to persuade Don Haidl, a former assistant sheriff, to withhold testimony from federal investigators during tape-recorded conversations on March 17, 2004, and Aug. 13, 2007, the indictment says. Haidl, 56, bankrolled Carona's first campaign.

The indictment also includes eight counts against Debra Hoffman [Carona's girlfriend], 41, a Newport Beach attorney and investor who the document identifies as the sheriff's "longtime mistress." The charges include aiding Carona and bankruptcy fraud, the indictment reads. Deborah Carona, 56, the sheriff's wife of 27 years, faces one count of conspiracy, the document says.

"The plan and purpose of the conspiracy was for defendant Carona to become elected sheriff of Orange County, and for him to corruptly use the office of sheriff to enrich himself," Hoffman, Deborah Carona, Haidl and Jaramillo, the indictment reads.

SNIP

In all, Carona's is charged with seven counts: four counts of mail fraud, two of witness tampering and one of conspiracy. If convicted of all counts, Carona could spend decades in prison.

SNIP

41 posted on 10/30/2007 11:59:52 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: BurbankKarl
Thanks.

That pdf froze up my '04 Dell 'puter. Have another location?

Bloody shame, Corona was being groomed for bigger and better things. I would guess his downfall began when he started to screw over his opposition, the Chief of Police in San Clemente.

Bill Hunt was respected, and ran a clean campaign for Sheriff. ... maybe there's still some horsepower left in San Clemente. Gotta make a few phone calls.

42 posted on 10/30/2007 12:41:03 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: SoConPubbie

There may be a lot going on but preferential issuance of CCW is not one of them. This guy gave almost anyone who could come up with any decent reason a CCW and you didn’t have contribute a penny to him to get one. Trust me on this one. I know it for a personal fact and have always considered it one of his greatest attributes.


43 posted on 10/31/2007 12:41:58 PM PDT by ocbizlaw
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To: BurbankKarl
It's my bet Carona is history, and will no doubt be prosecuted for several of the charges listed on the indictment, along with his co-conspirators. It appears there is a large paper trail here involving all kinds of corruption and improprieties.

If what I read in the indictment is for the most part true and accurate..With the paper trail being extensive..These people are going down in a big way IMO...

44 posted on 10/31/2007 4:21:53 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: BurbankKarl

The smoke detectors have been (figuratively) going off for years around Carona. That many chose not to see the fires that were always burning around him was a deliberate act — a few were in cahoots with him, and the rest were scared of him. And it’s not like many of his misdeeds haven’t been right there in the press for all to see......and, having said that, what’s that old saying about “the tip of the iceberg”?

For anyone who thinks Carona is getting the shaft, just look at what the rest of the rats in his pack are doing as they scurry around trying to cut deals as they stand in line to testify against each other. And from Carona’s legion of supporters.....we’re not hearing a peep. There’s a good reason for that, of course....just because they chose to close their eyes to his shady dealings didn’t mean they didn’t know what was going on. All they could do was hold on and hope that a real investigation would not take place.


45 posted on 11/02/2007 11:46:07 AM PDT by zapatos espinados
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To: monkeyshine

“Innocent until proven guilty”

You must have missed the part that said he was “R” (sarc)


46 posted on 11/02/2007 11:57:45 AM PDT by xrmusn
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