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Food fight at Los Altos High: District hopes to outlaw popular catering truck
Mountain View (Cal.) Voice ^ | October 12, 2007 | Susan Hong

Posted on 10/30/2007 7:56:37 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative

Hungry Los Altos High School students who prefer the tasty offerings at a catering truck just off campus may have to settle for cafeteria food if school administrators have their way.

The truck began stopping at the school earlier in the year, and immediately attracted a large following, including some faculty members who like the varied menu offered by Julie Nguyen, the truck's owner.

But district officials are evidently concerned that the cafeteria is losing popularity, and that students may be ignoring the school's healthier offerings. So they've asked the Los Altos City Council to ban the truck from the school's neighborhood.

That would certainly disappoint the many students who lined up on Tuesday with dollars in hand to order cheese steak burritos, fries and sodas from Nguyen's truck, parked on Jardin Avenue next to the school.

Students say the food they get from the truck is better than that offered by the school's cafeteria, which they say is not very appealing. (The cafeteria offered egg rolls, chow mein and milk on Tuesday.) Nguyen, 46 and a Vietnamese immigrant, offers fruit salads, water, Polish sausages, egg salads and BLTs.

"This is real food," said ninth grader Carlos Chavez.

"The cafeteria doesn't have any of this stuff -- burgers and hot dogs," said Roger Peterson, a tenth grader.

The students said they didn't know high school officials were trying to prevent Nguyen from selling her food there.

Last April the high school district proposed to the Los Altos City Council that it pass a "mobile food vendor ordinance," which would ban food-catering trucks from parking within 500 feet of school premises and limit their parking time to 10 minutes, Superintendent Barry Groves said. The council held its regular meeting Tuesday night but took no action on the issue.

The district has a "healthy foods initiative," and students are buying food through Nguyen that the school wouldn't serve, Groves said. It's also a litter problem, he added.

"It does create some issues in terms of supervision and garbage for us," Principal Wynne Satterwhite said, as she monitored students eating near the truck on Tuesday. "When we have 100 kids down here, it means we have to pull one of our campus security persons here to make sure the kids are behaving," she said.

When asked why they buy food from the "taco truck," students rattled off a laundry list of complaints about the cafeteria food.

"It's always the same thing," said tenth grader Alex Amaya.

"It has no flavor," said Pressy Mejia, also a tenth grader.

"No one likes the food in there," said Jenny Montalvo, an eleventh grader. "It's kinda crappy."

Los Altos City Council member Ron Packard, who visited the site Tuesday to talk to students, also bought a burrito.

"As far as I can tell no one has gotten sick from the food," Packard said. While the council is leaning towards banning the truck, he said, if students showed up at a council meeting to talk about how much they enjoyed its food, the council would keep an open mind.

Nguyen said she paid about $120 to purchase a permit from the city to sell food to students. She hired one cook, and began selling the food about eight months ago. She also sells to high school students in Menlo Park, and on a good day, she said, she can make more than $500.

Nguyen also did not know Los Altos school officials were trying to ban her truck.

"I just stop here for the children," she said. "They say good food. They like my food." She used to park down the street and students would follow her down the street to eat, she said.

"If I had a contract with them then I can go in there with them all day," Nguyen added, pointing towards the school. "Maybe better."

A couple teachers, staff and administrators also visited Nguyen's catering truck and bought food.

"It works out real good. The kids just like it with all the diversity. The price is better and the food is better than the cafeteria," said one employee of the high school who did not want to give his name.


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"No one likes the food in there," said Jenny Montalvo, an eleventh grader. "It's kinda crappy."

Typical government response: instead of improving its food so that the kids will want to eat in the cafeteria, the school district wants to outlaw the competition.

It works out real good. The kids just like it with all the diversity.

There's one kind of diversity the government schools think is bad.

1 posted on 10/30/2007 7:56:40 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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2 posted on 10/30/2007 7:59:28 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

OUTSOURCE the feeding of these students....sheesh....sounds like a good idea to me....convert the cafeteria into classrooms.


3 posted on 10/30/2007 7:59:32 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Egg salads...ummmmm, my favorite. She’s got my business.


4 posted on 10/30/2007 8:00:20 AM PDT by shiva
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

The proposed ordinance likely will meet legal challenges which would waste resources; a much easier approach would be to lock down the school grounds at lunch time.


5 posted on 10/30/2007 8:01:39 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: goodnesswins
OUTSOURCE the feeding of these students....sheesh....sounds like a good idea to me....convert the cafeteria into classrooms.

It will only work if Nguyen give them a cut.

Money. That's the real issue.

6 posted on 10/30/2007 8:02:18 AM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Close on your analysis, but socialists just don't care what anyone wants so long as they can control what the people are allowed to have.
7 posted on 10/30/2007 8:02:26 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“There’s one kind of diversity the government schools think is bad.”

Actually, there is one kind of diversity the government schools think is GOOD. Skin color. All other kinds are not really allowed, as far as I can tell.


8 posted on 10/30/2007 8:04:35 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Typical government response: instead of improving its food so that the kids will want to eat in the cafeteria, the school district wants to outlaw the competition.

Yup. It's amazing what institutional food can be when the parties are properly motivated.

My daughter's college is really proud of the cafeteria. And they should be. I've eaten there even when it's NOT parents' weekend, and it's astonishing how good (and healthy) the food is. The cafeteria at my old college in the 70s was so bad, nobody ate there but first semester freshmen. I'm not sure how they stayed in business, maybe the guys from the engineering college didn't notice what they were eating . . . .

9 posted on 10/30/2007 8:04:43 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

School cafeteria “food” is a joke.


10 posted on 10/30/2007 8:04:50 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“Typical government response: instead of improving its food so that the kids will want to eat in the cafeteria, the school district wants to outlaw the competition.”

Just wait until these morons run healthcare.


11 posted on 10/30/2007 8:05:14 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian
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To: L98Fiero

Skin color isn’t really much of an issue in Los Altos, is it?
I would think the “diversity” of sexual orientation would be much more enforced.


12 posted on 10/30/2007 8:06:26 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I’d like to know what the cafeteria offers that really is so much more health conscience. It seems, at least from my child’s lunch menu, that they still offer a lot of processed foods.


13 posted on 10/30/2007 8:11:03 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: TommyDale

Ah, good point.


14 posted on 10/30/2007 8:11:22 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: null and void
Money. That's the real issue.

The cafeteria gets reimbursed from the Feds for each meal that they serve to students. Actually at different rates depending of family income, but still on all students.
A cafeteria is supposed to be self-sufficient, but profits go to the general fund.
You are right. It is all about the money.
When I was a senior, I believe I may have eaten at least one meal in the cafeteria, but not many more.
15 posted on 10/30/2007 8:12:49 AM PDT by Misplaced Texan (I hate toll roads.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Just for speculation, I wonder how this would go if Julie Nguyen - likely a LEGAL immigrant since it’s tough to swim from Vietnam - was instead Carlos Sanchez, an undocumented migrant from Merida.

Any different?


16 posted on 10/30/2007 8:12:54 AM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Just who does Nguyen think she is? A Vietnamese immigrant, coming to OUR country, seeing an unfilled niche, hiring people, working hard to fill an obvious need in her community. How dare she do things the old-fashion American way, in the face of official opposition? If allowed to get away with this affront, the next thing is additional employees, more trucks and future prosperity for all. Can’t allow it, can they???
God Bless America. (or God HELP America)


17 posted on 10/30/2007 8:14:15 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Geesh....just put up signs that say, "Food-Catering Truck Free Zone"

Everyone knows...those signs stop crime, drugs, and guns.......

18 posted on 10/30/2007 8:14:27 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

maybe they need to ban bringing food from home as well, so that the school can ensure that students are eating healthy... plus this way they can make sure nobody brings any of those illegal peanut butter sandwiches.


19 posted on 10/30/2007 8:17:04 AM PDT by tarawa
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

All about the money. “*Wah!!* She’s taking our money from us.” It sounds like her offerings are healthier, too. Probably fresher, as well.


20 posted on 10/30/2007 8:19:51 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Old Professer

I went to HS for one year at a nearby school (Awalt High). Back in those days, we had two(2) “student smoking areas” ON CAMPUS. I can tell you, there was a lot more than Marlboros getting smoked at lunchtime on those areas.

Or so I heard...

A lockdown would probably not fly either. Best alternative would be for the studentws and “poor immigrant” show up at the city council meeting and get the PC weenies head’s spinning between:
1) Passing another law “for the children” and
2) Another arbitrary law impinging on the young people’s freedom and a hard working immigrant just trying to make it.


21 posted on 10/30/2007 8:21:09 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: tarawa

Yep, PB&Js from home was what I and all my siblings ate all the way through graduation. We were given a little money for milk on the side. I was wondering myself if kids were still allowed to bring their own lunch to school.


22 posted on 10/30/2007 8:21:50 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

School cafeteria food is always revolting . . . it’s the law.

I remember one time when the football coaches threatened to stand the cafeteria manager upside down in a fifty five gallon drum of discarded “cheese surprise” if he ever served it again.


23 posted on 10/30/2007 8:23:57 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("The stool pigeon is the coming race." - Jack Black, <i>You Can't Win</i>)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Regarding the schools’ “healthy” menu, spend some time here: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/10/junkfood-science-exclusive-big-one.html Biggest dietary study ever, and most people haven’t heard about it because it didn’t turn out the way it was supposed to.


24 posted on 10/30/2007 8:25:45 AM PDT by bobsatwork
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To: angkor
Just for speculation, I wonder how this would go if Julie Nguyen - likely a LEGAL immigrant

Ever since Chieu Le founded Lee's Industrial Catering back in 1980, the local Vietnamese community has practicall owned the roach coach, uh, catering truck business in this area. They (Chieu and his brother Henry) are superb businessmen, they found an under served market niche, and filled it with clean trucks, good food, friendly service, and a willingness to add any product the customers desired to their menus.

It's a great American success story.

25 posted on 10/30/2007 8:29:33 AM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

That’s what I am wondering. What’s the difference between these kids bringing a sack lunch from home and buying a lunch from the truck? In both cases the students do not buy from the cafeteria.


26 posted on 10/30/2007 8:37:09 AM PDT by Skenderbej
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To: HungarianGypsy
It sounds like her offerings are healthier, too. Probably fresher, as well.

Often cooked to order, from ingredients hand selected that morning. Even the stuff in the warmer was mostly cooked in transit from the last stop.

Compare that to government surplus cheese, butter, and only God knows (and no one else really wants to!) what else that has been quietly bubbling away in the cauldrons in the back of the school cafeteria since last Tuesday...

27 posted on 10/30/2007 8:39:27 AM PDT by null and void (Franz Kafka would have killed himself in despair if he lived in the world we inhabit today.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Does anyone remember the California school district that changed its menu to include ‘healthy’ foods like tofu, bean sprouts, etc. —and the kids left the school grounds to go to the local fast food operations?

I think the cafeteria operation went broke.


28 posted on 10/30/2007 8:59:04 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: martin_fierro

When hamburgers and fries are outlawed, only criminals will have hamburgers and fries.


29 posted on 10/30/2007 9:09:32 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: wildbill

The Principal of my Alma Mater wouldn’t bother with this foolishness. The school is in Malden Square. What would they do, have the city shut the restaurants at lunchtime?


30 posted on 10/30/2007 9:10:15 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
" ...ignoring the school's healthier offerings...."

Sure, like the menu my grandkids get at lunch.... pizza, corn and french fries, all at the same meal. All just hunkey dorey according to the government food police.

31 posted on 10/30/2007 9:11:05 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: Old Professer
a much easier approach would be to lock down the school grounds at lunch time.

Yes, and put the students in handcuffs and leg chains to move them from class to class to make sure none escape. A double fence around the exercise yard would be needed, as well. That should be enough to eradicate this market-based solution.

32 posted on 10/30/2007 9:16:05 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Just a thought but I wonder if perhaps the school cafeteria is under contract with some out side firm and someone's brother in law complained they were loosing business because of the truck?
33 posted on 10/30/2007 9:20:51 AM PDT by Shots
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Heck, the taco shop near my high school used to get a line out the door when we went to lunch. So did my buddy’s house nearby, his dad had a keg-erator.


34 posted on 10/30/2007 9:21:05 AM PDT by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: L98Fiero

yea and as far as the leftists are concerned, white isn’t a color, meaning the celebration of “diversity” is the celebration of everything except “white”. If Hillary takes over, it will be truly a gov’t of the “diverse”, for the “diverse” and by the “diverse”. Whitey is just an “obligor”.


35 posted on 10/30/2007 9:21:44 AM PDT by glide625
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Here’s one for your nanny state ping list.


36 posted on 10/30/2007 9:26:35 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: PAR35

That’s phase 3.


37 posted on 10/30/2007 9:33:28 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: L,TOWM

Wow, I thought the high school I attended was the only one that had a smoking area for students. lol We also had a Student Lounge where we could buy pop and candy bars for lunch. *gasp* I know! It’s a wonder I survived to tell the horrific tale! :O

I am sooo sick of hearing the school lunch BS. The lunch menu when I was in school would have never been approved today, yet there were very few overweight kids. That seems to indicate another cause for the number of overweight kids today.

Many times, the parents screeching the loudest about forcing schools to offer “healthy” food for lunch are the same parents throwing fast food at their kids nearly every evening for dinner and shrugging their shoulders because they can’t seem to drag the little darling away from video games and TV. They want to place responsibility everywhere but directly upon their own shoulders.


38 posted on 10/30/2007 9:36:40 AM PDT by nodumbblonde
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To: bobsatwork

Interesting link!

IMO the ‘healthiest’ eating is in the palm of your hand.
Hold up a fist and realize your stomach is only about the same size.

Doesn’t take much to be satisfied.
Quality eating is determined more by smaller amounts of foods you actually like.


39 posted on 10/30/2007 9:37:32 AM PDT by b9 (~ simply Fred ~)
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To: martin_fierro

That’s where I went to HS. Class of 19xx (I’m shy about my age.)

I never ate at school, as my folks lived a block away, so I can’t comment on food quality. Plus, things change over the years.


40 posted on 10/30/2007 9:39:59 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I suspect the school needs the business to make up for the students that get free lunch and breakfast.


41 posted on 10/30/2007 9:42:11 AM PDT by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must not be Dismayed)
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To: Grammy

After I graduated from HS I was shocked to learn that you could eat pizza without corn on the side...


42 posted on 10/30/2007 9:52:46 AM PDT by 3Lean
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To: TommyDale
School cafeteria “food” is a joke.

Try a mid-sixties Camp Pendleton Mess Hall - whew.

On 'liver' day, which was about once a week, the E-club did a huge business selling burgers and beer.

43 posted on 10/30/2007 9:58:49 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
That would certainly disappoint the many students who lined up on Tuesday with dollars in hand to order cheese steak burritos, fries and sodas from Nguyen's truck, parked on Jardin Avenue next to the school.

Not only would it disapoint students but it would be unconstitutional to ban this truck from a neighborhood, banning from school property I can barely tolerate but banning from the school neighborhood is going way beyond the pale. If the parents of these kids don't stand up and put a stop to this they are crazy.

44 posted on 10/30/2007 10:00:30 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
But district officials are evidently concerned that the cafeteria is losing popularity, and that students may be ignoring the school's healthier offerings.

One of life's little cruelties that the food that tastes best usually isn't the healthiest.
45 posted on 10/30/2007 10:05:42 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

If there’s one thing public schools can’t stand, it’s competition.


46 posted on 10/30/2007 10:06:46 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: Kevmo

Nice find. Why am I not surprised?


47 posted on 10/30/2007 10:09:09 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: ErnBatavia

I remember in school, seeing what they called “tamale pie” and it looked like all the leftovers from the previous week, covered with tamales. I bet at least a hundred kids were barfing just from looking at it. That was the last time I even set foot into a school cafeteria. To this day, I don’t like them — even the good ones like K & S.


48 posted on 10/30/2007 10:42:45 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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