Posted on 10/30/2007 11:00:24 AM PDT by Spiff
| Romney | 29% |
| Giuliani | 23% |
| McCain | 13% |
| Thompson | 10% |
| Huckabee | 5% |
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This is a chart I put together which tracks presidential preference polls in South Carolina since 12/23/06:
Poll numbers were obtained from RealClearPolitics' useful aggregation of poll results. Also included is the Voter/Consumer Research poll that was done on 10/02. This chart uses as 4-period moving average.
Here's one that I did that depicts only American Research Group's polling results:
He is also within the margin of error with Fred in the Rasmussen (most accurate according to many here) in the national poll as of today.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history
Their results are radically different from the other polling firms, and they have a very, very poor record of accuracy in predicting actual election results.
The classic rule on the early primaries is driving Romney:
There are three tickets out of Iowa.
There are two tickets out of New Hampshire
Romney will almost certainly be number one or two in NH. If he follows that with a win in the South, as in Carolina, he will become a juggernaut.
He's not perfect, but not as identifiably liberal as Rudy. He has business and executive success behind him, and he is very good on his feet with a good speaking style and a command of the issues.
Also, of all the candidates--on both sides--he's the best looking, someone you wouldn't mind having in your living room for the next four years.
ARG is radically different. But the fact is that Rudy leads in the RCP composite of most of the state polls; and Romney leads in the couple that Rudy doesn’t.
He's also in the same place he was in July in the same poll, 14%.
Thats an awful lot of money to spend over 3 1/2 months without any movement at all in this national poll.
Maybe he's not campaigning hard enough. Are you sure he has the "fire in the belly"?
I've added it to my tracking chart:
Their results are radically different from the other polling firms, and they have a very, very poor record of accuracy in predicting actual election results.
true, but you can depend on them to provide the results they are paid to provide. Want a poll, buy a poll.
“Romney will almost certainly be number one or two in NH. If he follows that with a win in the South, as in Carolina, he will become a juggernaut.”
And I will become a third party voter...
2008 Republican Presidential Nominee
2008.GOP.NOM.GIULIANI Rudy Giuliani to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 39.8 40.0 40.0 120596 -1.3
2008.GOP.NOM.ROMNEY Mitt Romney to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 26.4 27.0 27.0 99289 0
2008.GOP.NOM.THOMPSON(F) Fred Thompson to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 9.7 9.9 9.9 90246 -0.1
2008.GOP.NOM.MCCAIN John McCain to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 6.9 7.2 7.0 149782 0
2008.GOP.NOM.PAUL Ron Paul to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 6.8 7.0 7.0 70956 +0.4
2008.GOP.NOM.HUCKABEE Mike Huckabee to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 6.4 6.7 6.5 59497 -0.3
Romney blows away the competition in early states like NH and Iowa on Intrade. I wish they would start a line on SC.
REP.IOWA.ROMNEY Mitt Romney to Win M 66.0 70.3 68.3 239 0
REP.IOWA.THOMPSON(F) Fred Thompson to Win M 6.0 9.6 7.5 107 0
REP.IOWA.GIULIANI Rudy Giuliani to Win M 2.0 4.0 2.0 231 0
REP.IOWA.HUCKABEE Mike Huckabee to Win M 15.0 19.8 19.8 140 +2.4
REP.IOWA.MCCAIN John McCain to Win M 1.5 3.9 2.7 13 0
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Maybe I'll do a chart just tracking Intrade's national poll numbers to see how that looks.
This guy is a phony as John Edwards. I can’t believe people in the Republican party are being fooled by him.
Romney: ‘Can you hear me now?’
bump
He has a weird advantage of being toward the middle, yet in the past few weeks I believe that his state polls are getting closer, and if people in the GOP really want electability he seems the one that polls best consistently against the Beast.
Since I am not an electoral or delegate wonk, I could be way off, but look for him to either sink or swim in the next few months. This is not what I want, it is just what I think might happen.
ARG is a bad outfit when they don't tell JohnnyZ what he wants to hear.
Truth is, Fred's been sliding and Romney's been climbing in South Carolina. You may dispute the numbers, but the trends are clear.
Southerner Fred must be mortified to be have to work his tail off to beat a Mormon in South Carolina.
This is real success born of real effort. Nothing phony about it. You might at least acknowledge Romney's skill, effort, and work-ethic even if you have no intention of supporting him. At least have that courtesy and good grace.
If it does nothing more than spur Fred to get off his tired backside and show a little enthusiasm it will be worth it.
Mitt's demonstrating extraordinary executive ability. These numbers are a testament to his work ethic and drive.
I think McCain, would have walked away with the nomination except for his alliance with Kennedy and Bush on illegals despite the fact that most of us here would not support him.
McCain also does better in head to head matchups than any other Republican in key state polls because he has that appeal to independents. Amazing but true.
Mitt Romney truly needs to be attacked more often for his “Romneycare mandatory health care plan” in Massachusetts! Forcing people onto any government run health care plan is unconstitutional to begin with whether people like it or not, and most people in the U.S. don’t want to be forced onto any government run health care plan! This issue alone can destroy Mitt Romney.
I agree with you about Romney’s work ethic. That kind of determination and energy will be necessary to beat Hillary. I’ve read that Romney’s typical campaign day begins with an appearance at 7:00 a.m. and ends after 10:00 p.m. He’s putting in the time and making the effort; he’s not just relying on national name recognition and notoriety as a t.v. actor like other candidates I could name.
>>>This guy is a phony as John Edwards. I cant believe people in the Republican party are being fooled by him.<<<
Perhaps you have a bad eye for success. Romney is clearly the candidate with the best track record. He’s also clearly the candidate who has walked the walk he talks himself.
Frankly, I think it’s high time we had someone with a venture capitalist mentality running things in DC. There’s a lot of superfluous garbage floating around up there gunking up the system.
Romney is the hardest-working, best organized candidate running. That kind of drive and effort can't be faked.
Fred apparently just wants the presidency handed to him. He books far, far fewer speaking engagements than Romney, gives very short speeches, and then ducks out as soon as he's done so he won't have to answer questions.
By their fruits ye shall know them.
I hope you are right.
Spiff....you might want to reverse your graph so the LATEST data are on the right instead of the left. As it should look on a proper spreadsheet.
Huh?! Um...the latest data on the graph IS on the right. Just like a proper spreadsheet and graph should look. Acute profound dyslexia? You might want to have that checked.
Get your facts straight....it was not government run health care. It was done by private insurance. If it is so bad, why are 30 states looking at some version of the idea?
Bttt!
Seen it myself, up close in person. Mitt is the real deal, and he is swimming upstream against a withering bigotry.
All of these states are jumping the gun on health care plans for their own states when they haven’t even seen all of pluses and all of the problems which will be occurring with Massachusetts health plan! One year of Romneycare hasn’t even occurred yet! It’s extremely important that all health care reforms are done right and to the best of human abilities.
>>>Forcing people onto any government run health care plan is unconstitutional to begin with whether people like it or not, and most people in the U.S. dont want to be forced onto any government run health care plan! <<<
Only Mass isn’t running the healthcare there. Private industry is. And you’re not forced to buy health insurance there—just prove you have enough on hand to pay your bills if you don’t want insurance and put it into an account the state can access to pay the hospital if you default on your bills.
Romney has said it isn’t perfect and won’t fit all states. The main point is that the premiums that the state helps out the poor is way cheaper than covering their costs otherwise. It will be interesting how it plays out.
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