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Giuliani: Illegals Are a Federal Problem
AP (via google) ^ | October 30, 2007 | LIBBY QUAID

Posted on 10/30/2007 4:26:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl

WASHINGTON (AP) — Responsibility for stopping illegal immigration belongs to the federal government and not to cities, states or businesses, Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani said Tuesday.

Giuliani told small-business owners he would not punish them for unwittingly hiring illegal immigrants.

Federal officials are "trying to put the responsibility for this on employers, on city government, on state government," the former New York mayor said during a conference call arranged by the National Federation of Independent Businesses.

"The simple fact is, nobody but the federal government can stop people from coming into this country illegally, and the federal government does a very bad job of that," Giuliani said.

He said no other presidential candidate will solve the problem.

"If you elect a Democrat, they're just going to open the borders, and more illegals are going to come in," he said.

"And if you elect one of my (Republican) opponents, they want to crack down on cities and states, and they want to crack down on businesses, but they don't want to solve the problem," he said. "If I become president, in a very short while, you will not be able to walk into the United States without identifying yourselves."

Giuliani says he would build a fence along the U.S.-Mexico border that includes high-tech monitoring to detect those trying to enter the U.S. illegally. He also calls for hiring more border patrol agents.

Legal immigrants should be issued a tamper-proof, federal identification card, he said, "and if something is wrong with that card, it's the federal government's responsibility, not yours."

Republican candidates have been sparring over illegal immigration, an issue that angers conservatives who hold sway in party primaries and who argue that the problem is straining schools and hospitals and taking jobs away from U.S. citizens.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has criticized Giuliani for defending New York's "sanctuary" policy, which barred city workers from reporting suspected illegal immigrants who enrolled their children in school or sought hospital treatment.

"If the mayor is just looking to place blame, all he needs to do is look in a mirror," Romney spokesman Kevin Madden said Tuesday. "Stopping illegal immigration is about actually enforcing existing immigration laws."

Of the sanctuary city criticism, Giuliani has responded that, while he cracked down on all lawlessness, Romney tolerated sanctuary cities in Massachusetts.

Romney argues he tried to curtail the problem by deputizing state police to help enforce federal immigration laws.

Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson has accused both Giuliani and Romney of being weak on immigration.

"As mayor, Rudy Giuliani told city employees to ignore federal law and barred them from assisting federal immigration agents, and yet he now expects voters to believe he'd be tough on our borders?" said Thompson spokesman Jeff Sadosky.

Also Tuesday, Giuliani criticized President Bush's No Child Left Behind education law, saying, it's "really a debate about what kind of standards do federal governments impose on state and local bureaucracies."

"I would turn the decision-making over to people and to parents," he said on the conference call. "I'm willing to bet that parents will do a better job of evaluating these schools that are doing a poor job a lot better than government bureaucrats do."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; fredthompson; giuliani; immigrantlist; romney
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1 posted on 10/30/2007 4:26:22 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Rudy “Open Borders” Giuliani thinks he has a shot at the presidency. Funny stuff.


2 posted on 10/30/2007 4:28:07 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: calcowgirl; TitansAFC

Sure Rooody. Lie to us some more. POS.


3 posted on 10/30/2007 4:28:11 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Liz; indylindy; stephenjohnbanker; Ol' Sparky; ellery
"If I become president, in a very short while, you will not be able to walk into in the United States without identifying yourselves."

More likely.

4 posted on 10/30/2007 4:28:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Of course nothing stops the local police from turning them over to the federal officials, except sanctuary policies. Wasn’t NY City proclaimed a sanctuary city by Rudy? He should know how it works.


5 posted on 10/30/2007 4:28:54 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: calcowgirl

“Giuliani says he would build a fence along the U.S.-Mexico border that includes high-tech monitoring to detect those trying to enter the U.S. illegally”


I’ll believe that when I see it.


6 posted on 10/30/2007 4:29:00 PM PDT by Mears
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To: calcowgirl
Responsibility for stopping illegal immigration belongs to the federal government

Wow, what cutting edge observation... I think this is the only thing this NY'er has said that is well...Obvious.

Where's that "captain obvious" pic?

7 posted on 10/30/2007 4:29:03 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: calcowgirl

Anyone have a quote on his stand on the North American Union?


8 posted on 10/30/2007 4:29:27 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: calcowgirl
??? The guy is a goof! How the hell is he staying up in the polls?
9 posted on 10/30/2007 4:29:28 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Mears

January 2009 will be here soon enough...let’s hold him to it...


10 posted on 10/30/2007 4:30:01 PM PDT by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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To: Tarpon

No, NYC became a sanctuary city in 1989 under Ed Koch.


11 posted on 10/30/2007 4:32:09 PM PDT by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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To: Tarpon
Of course nothing stops the local police from turning them over to the federal officials

Except that the Federal officials don't do anything, and the paperwork and hassle for the locals leads to nothing - except possibly a civil rights lawsuit from the Federal Justice Department.

Local enforcement without Federal commitment to the rule of law is just time wasting.

12 posted on 10/30/2007 4:32:13 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: calcowgirl

I vote on a persons record not their promises.......what you have done is the gauge of what you will do .......Rudy’s past will keep him last IMO.


13 posted on 10/30/2007 4:33:07 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: jonathanmo
Here is what we will get from rooty-tooty.

"Pro-gun Rudy"

"Christian Values Rudy"

"Right to Life Rudy"

"nothing to fear Rudy"

14 posted on 10/30/2007 4:33:18 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Jim Noble

At least you can make the effort. Our local sheriff does just that. Now he even has ICE powers so he can arrest them and hold them as well. Nothing stops a city from giving the training to their police force, it’s just a matter of will.


15 posted on 10/30/2007 4:34:04 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: calcowgirl

I could puke!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 10/30/2007 4:35:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Mears

I hear the Hi-tech hasn’t been working so well. How about “virtual” illegals.

We can say “poof” and they will go back to Mexico and parts unknown. LOL


17 posted on 10/30/2007 4:35:47 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: calcowgirl
"And if you elect one of my (Republican) opponents, they want to crack down on cities and states, and they want to crack down on businesses, but they don't want to solve the problem,"

Duncan Hunter has been fighting for a border fence and has been #1 on illegal immigration since Rudy was a nobody federal attorney.

My apologies, stools. Rudy is a POS.

18 posted on 10/30/2007 4:36:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: calcowgirl

LMAO!!


19 posted on 10/30/2007 4:36:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: calcowgirl

Giuliani’s “solution” will inevitably involve the issuing of biometric federal ID cards, extensive electronic/traditional public surveillance, ID checkpoints, mandatory DNA banks (collected at birth and via contract with the largest HMOs), and disincentives against cash transactions.

The system will be efficient, effective at controlling illegal immigration, and will serve as a model for all future government control schemes with which America will finally be totally destroyed.


20 posted on 10/30/2007 4:36:40 PM PDT by M203M4 (The Tancredo, Thompson, and Hunter wing of the party - preventing the Rs from Whigging out.)
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