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FOES COULDN'T KO HER - SO SHE SOCKED HERSELF (gutless Hill's evasiveness stinks of Bill)
NY POST ^ | October 31, 2007 | CHARLES HURT D.C., NY Post Bureau Chief

Posted on 10/31/2007 4:10:21 AM PDT by Liz

.........the most damage (in the debate) was inflicted by Clinton on herself. She tied herself up in knots - in a way her opponents couldn't - with her non-answer about giving driver's license to illegal aliens. She must be the only New Yorker without an opinion on the plan (other than her colleague, Sen. Chuck Schumer). Her evasiveness on the most talked-about issue in the state reminded everyone of the worst of husband Bill and what could be in store if another Clinton makes it to the White House.

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KEYWORDS: cigar; demdebates; hillary; hitleryspitzer08; illegallicense; intern; shamnesty; spitler; syophillary
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Hillary's evasiveness on licensing illegals----the most talked-about issue in the state----reminded everyone of the worst of husband Bill and what could be in store if another Clinton makes it to the White House.

Spitler's NY licensing atrocity is only half the story.

The entire nation is up in arms over pandering politicans handing US sovereignty to Third World hellholes like Mexico.

When the US can't (or won't) control its borders, the safety and security of Americans is at risk.

The next president must understand the issue and have the guts to do something about it.

Don't count on the pardon-crazy Clintons---they'd rather pardon Puerto Rican terrorists for votes than protect US citizens.

In sum: Hillary has no gonads; Bill has them but doesn't know what they're for.

1 posted on 10/31/2007 4:10:24 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

Hillary should just be honest with people and say, ‘until we focus group the issue and sees how it will effect my poll numbers, I have no comment on the issue’.


2 posted on 10/31/2007 4:13:00 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
MSNBC is a joke and she is a shill.

Socialism is a failure and we should not be going there.

3 posted on 10/31/2007 4:15:56 AM PDT by colonialhk (Harry and Nancy are our best moron allies)
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To: Always Right

Might think she would have had the info before going into a major debate.


4 posted on 10/31/2007 4:16:06 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Always Right

Translation: This is an unpopular issue with the voters but is popular with the DNC honchos. Therefore, I will not take a stand on it.

Any issue dealing with illegals is pushed towards getting them to vote.


5 posted on 10/31/2007 4:16:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Always Right

Does America really want to go back to clintonspeak?? Of course she will give every foreigner citizenship, just like they did last time to get Dem voters.

Pray for W and Our Troops


6 posted on 10/31/2007 4:18:24 AM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: Always Right
No. Not going to happen. She is to used to duck and run. AND she is NOT honest enough to come up with a statement like that. Fact is, if she could say something like that, you’d have to respect her for it. However, your respect is the last thing on her mind.
7 posted on 10/31/2007 4:35:26 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Liz

When someone does not answer their answer is clear.


8 posted on 10/31/2007 4:37:27 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: bray
I watched the "debate" last night, {I had to self medicate with Johnnie Walker Black} and it was a hoot.

High light of the night was dennis the menace claiming he had seen a UFO, and constantly calling for impeachment. Neither moderator asked any of the other candidates about impeachment.

The bitch repeatedly answered all questions like a lawyer or an economist, on one hand...on the other.

The breck girl tried to hit the bitch with his purse and accused her of double talk.

The mooselimb did the same.

The bitch continued her double talk.

She did trap herself late in the debate, with a non-answer about spitzer's plan for licenses for illegals, not that any demonRAT will care.

9 posted on 10/31/2007 4:40:05 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: AppyPappy

And not only to vote here in the US, but to CONTINUE to vote back in Mexico, insofar as an absentee vote is permitted there.

As a speculation: what IF the illegals were somehow magically transformed into fully franchised voters? Would that solve street crime? Would that mean that these new voters would be motivated to take up questions with the local school boards or city councils? Does that rescue the Social Security funding problem? Is access to housing improved? Will the labor supply problem be made less acute, as more and more ‘baby boomers’ retire?

Will America be able to maintain its productivity, or do we all sink into a ‘chicken taco’ economy?

I only foresee a permanently depressed financial and spiritual future, in which all the worst dystopias ever depicted are made real.


10 posted on 10/31/2007 4:40:44 AM PDT by alloysteel (Ignorance is no handicap for some people in a debate. They just get more shrill.)
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To: Always Right

It is not grammatically possible to use the the words “Hillary” and “honest” in the same sentence.


11 posted on 10/31/2007 4:47:27 AM PDT by cblue55
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To: alloysteel

Would that solve street crime? Philadelphia has a crime problem and it is not illegals. It is home grown criminal terrorists. The city is not in turmoil over Mexicans. It is perfectly obvious to everyone who and what is causing the chaos. Everyone is afraid to say it.


12 posted on 10/31/2007 4:51:01 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: USS Alaska; bray
She trapped herself with a non-answer about Spitzer's plan to license illegals....not that demonRATs will care.

No, diehard Dims won't care---but keep in mind, anti-illegal is a rare consensus issue that unites all sectors of the political spectrum. Plus Indy and crossover voters she needs to win will take note.

Amnesty One and Two went down to defeat b/c Repubs and Dems were all getting the same message from constituents.....a resounding "no way."

13 posted on 10/31/2007 4:53:19 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

Hillary doesn’t need Bill to be evasive. She is a real pro in that area.


14 posted on 10/31/2007 4:56:29 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Always Right

Hillary is a paranoid. She cannot be honest with people because she 100 percent right all of the time and we are a 100 percent wrong all of the time and that includes everyone.


15 posted on 10/31/2007 4:58:07 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: oldironsides
Everyone is afraid to say it.

Well....say it! I suspect you will not say the word either.....

16 posted on 10/31/2007 4:59:17 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Liz
Her evasiveness on the most talked-about issue in the state reminded everyone of the worst of husband Bill and what could be in store if another Clinton makes it to the White House.

Rope-the-dopes. The drive by and the rest of the candidates enablers loosen the ropes for her so she can lay back and feign being hit.

17 posted on 10/31/2007 5:03:00 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: alloysteel

Democrats don’t believe in one man, one vote. They believe in one vote, one vote. As long as they can get somebody in a voting booth, they have a vote. So they go into the Hispanic area, give each person the name of a voter, $5, a pre-punched ballot and take them to the polling place. So Enrique Valesquez goes in and votes as Beulah Jones. The polling place isn’t allowed to verify identity.


18 posted on 10/31/2007 5:05:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: cblue55

It’s like trying to put two negative poles of a magnet together.


19 posted on 10/31/2007 5:13:33 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: PGalt
The drive by and the rest of the candidates enablers loosen the ropes for her so she can lay back and feign being hit.

Without a doubt... she was slapped around last night and was caught off-balance. Pretty hard to believe she's the 'smartest-woman-in-the-world' when the DBM's been sayng for days they were gonna' come after her.

20 posted on 10/31/2007 5:14:13 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Liz

Re. the debate.....say what we want about the “BUSH MAN”, he’s still running circles around these morons.


21 posted on 10/31/2007 5:14:14 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: Liz

Her fumbling answer was funny anyway.

She said the license proposal would give the illegals licenses to bring in to the open so they could be keep track of a little better, that they are out driving around anyway.

Does anyone seriously think the criminal elements of the illegals would bother to get a license anyway!


22 posted on 10/31/2007 5:14:58 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious. Orwell)
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To: Liz

The real question should be:

Why wasn’t Hillary better prepared to respond to the question about driver’s licenses?

She has a history of receiving questions in advance so she can prepare.

The debates are probably no different, as much of the media is pushing for her and enabling her.


23 posted on 10/31/2007 5:17:03 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Liz
Might think she would have had the info before going into a major debate.

The smartestladyintheworld seems to have forgotten her lines. Maybe they can install a prompt screen for her next time.


24 posted on 10/31/2007 5:18:57 AM PDT by bannie
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To: johnny7

Thanks for the information. I did not watch but read the 1st 100 and the last 100 posts (at the time I clicked on it was just over 1000 posts) on the live thread when I got home from work.


25 posted on 10/31/2007 5:20:00 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: freekitty
She is a real pro in that area.

What will be interesting is the coming Dim/Pubbie debates once the nominees are chosen. Her Thyness will spin like a top for all to see. I have a cupboard thoroughly stocked with popcorn and I wait anxiously for that spectacle to come about....

26 posted on 10/31/2007 5:25:12 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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To: USS Alaska
I watched the "debate" last night, {I had to self medicate with Johnnie Walker Black} and it was a hoot.

LOL!!! I'd have had to do the same with Johnnie Walker Red.

High light of the night was dennis the menace claiming he had seen a UFO, and constantly calling for impeachment. Neither moderator asked any of the other candidates about impeachment.

So Dennis Kook Spinach was just being himself again. I bet the DUmmies are in love with that idiot.

27 posted on 10/31/2007 5:26:16 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: kenmcg
say what we want about the “BUSH MAN”, he’s still running circles around these morons.

The problem the RATs have, is that he and Rush Limbaugh WILL NOT be on the ballot next November. The RATs are running AGAINST those two, and not against the Republican candidates.

28 posted on 10/31/2007 5:31:33 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: cblue55; tx_eggman
It is not grammatically possible to use the the words “Hillary” and “honest” in the same sentence.

Hillary should honest to goodness be in jail.

There.
29 posted on 10/31/2007 5:52:38 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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To: Liz

Does Hillary have to resign her Senate seat if she is the democratic nominee for president or does she keep it and maintain her taxpayer salary while she runs around the country campaigning?


30 posted on 10/31/2007 5:56:57 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I could be Agent "HT")
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To: Liz
Thanks for posting, Liz. I think her support of Spitzer's scheme alone could sink her. Very little chatter on this issue on Fox & Friends this morning...just how she got beat up by the boys.

From Rush yesterday:

RUSH: This story, the reason I'm sharing it with you, is not really about New York driver's licenses. What is amazing to me about this is how Mrs. Clinton gets to be quiet when she wants to be quiet. This is her state. The fact that she's a presidential candidate only adds to the fact she should be asked about this. The fact that she's a senator from the state of New York and is not being peppered by the press, "What do you think of the governor's plans here for illegal immigrants getting driver's licenses?" It's amazing how she's able to skate. This is an Associated Press story, Devlin Barrett, "may simply be too radioactive for either a..." well, go ask her. What do you mean, may be too radioactive? You expect her to come out and make a statement on it? Go ask her. I'll bet she'll say it's a state issue, but she's a senator and illegal immigration is a national issue, and she's running for president. She doesn't have an out here.

The point is, she's given a pass. It's too radioactive for her, writes the AP. Man, oh, man, oh, man would I have loved over several occasions the last 18 years for you dummkopfs in the media to think certain issues were too radioactive for me to talk about. Good grief.
31 posted on 10/31/2007 5:59:43 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Hot Tabasco

She, like Lurch, will keep it of course.


32 posted on 10/31/2007 6:01:16 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

Rush is right about MSM being complicit on silencing the Hot Button issues, Illegal Immigration, Taxation, SS, good war news, homegrown Jihad, etc....but the Immigration failure is stalking the whole election cycle and it will not be ignored...Fred, Tancredo and Hunter will thankfully keep it in front of all!


33 posted on 10/31/2007 6:19:11 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Hot Tabasco
"Does Hillary have to resign her Senate seat if she is the democratic nominee for president or does she keep it and maintain her taxpayer salary while she runs around the country campaigning?

Kerry kept His seat (though he lost his arse!)

;)

34 posted on 10/31/2007 6:32:37 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Liz

Her teleprompter must have been down.


35 posted on 10/31/2007 6:34:17 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: #1CTYankee
Her teleprompter must have been down.

LOL. Or her IFB. Then again, even if all the tech was working, GIGO.

36 posted on 10/31/2007 6:36:16 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Liz

“Bill has them but doesn’t know what they’re for.”

They only kick in when a good-looking woman comes close to him!


37 posted on 10/31/2007 6:41:41 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Arrowhead1952
The RATs are running AGAINST those two

The Democrats know that negative campaigns work. Targeting Bush allows the Dems to run a negative campaign with no reprocussions. Once the Republican nominee is chosen, they will then call him "another Bush".

38 posted on 10/31/2007 6:47:35 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Miss Didi
Radioactivity is starting to coalesce around Herself, the Cold and Joyless, as she slips off the message and loses her place in the script.

Coming down solidly on both side of the issue works most of the time. But when Herself slips and falls astraddle that top barbed wire of the fence, it has to be painful.

I do not grieve for the unfortunate reverses that have befallen Herself. As I have stated elsewhere, some 95% of the personal woe in this world is self-induced.

Herself simply lacks the gravitas to be President.

39 posted on 10/31/2007 6:54:31 AM PDT by alloysteel (Ignorance is no handicap for some people in a debate. They just get more shrill.)
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To: Liz

Hillary has no gonads??? Au contraire, she’s occasionally in posession of Bill’s, and she holds many news media testicles in a lock box, as in Rush’s showing that an AP fag wonders if New York illegals’ licenses might be too “radioactive” a question to ask her. And, when he’s allowed, Bill does know what they’re for, too - they’re for sloppy, chubby intern girls’ chins.


40 posted on 10/31/2007 6:55:57 AM PDT by flowerplough (La Tolteca in Rehoboth, Delaware: They probably cater Fiesta Night in Heaven)
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To: iopscusa
"msm complicit"

All Dem moderators go into each debate hoping and wondering how they can make Hillary look good. Because if you could peer into their dishonest, little leftist hearts, they are rooting bigtime for Hillary to look good. Maybe only Russert of the lib press corps has the guts to ask the tough questions of lib candidates.

41 posted on 10/31/2007 7:04:56 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Liz

The smartest women in the whole wide world came out swinging with her first answwer last night, hands moving eyes flashing,enunciating each point she was trying to make and none of it made sense.Where a smile was expected she bared her teeth, but remembered not to cackle, other times she glared or tried to look presidential. By the end of this foolishness she fell flat on her face,even Americas favorite weatherman Algore would have seemed smarter.


42 posted on 10/31/2007 7:05:53 AM PDT by Maumee (wt)
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To: USS Alaska
"The breck girl tried to hit the bitch with his purse"

OMG that's so funny...LOL!!

43 posted on 10/31/2007 7:11:03 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Maumee

If sleeping with Bill qualifies you to be President, I vote for Gennifer Flowers. She is better looking and has more experience.


44 posted on 10/31/2007 7:11:30 AM PDT by csmusaret (Mnimum wage today; maximum wage tomorrow. It's the Socialist way.)
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To: Liz

Between Hillary and Spitzer holding office in New York it’s no wonder the state is losing population, people are running to escape.

If Hillary becomes Prez, the nation will suffer.....people need to start gearing up to support the GOP nominee.


45 posted on 10/31/2007 7:13:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: aimhigh

If it weren’t for negative campaigns, the RATs couldn’t ever get elected. Tell me ONE thing they are running FOR, other than higher taxes and bigger government.

If they were honest and said what they would do, they would be lucky to get 35% of the vote in any county. They have to go ugly early.


46 posted on 10/31/2007 7:21:38 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

TWO things they are running FOR: higher taxes and bigger government. Both involve publicly-financed vote-buying. Democracies fail when a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury, according to an 18th century Scot named Alexander Tytler.


47 posted on 10/31/2007 7:37:54 AM PDT by flowerplough (La Tolteca in Rehoboth, Delaware: They probably cater Fiesta Night in Heaven)
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To: SpinnerWebb
Yes, if there were justice in the world, she would go to jail. However, perhaps the evidence of crimes she has committed, for which she will never be tried, may be enough to keep her out of the White House. See my column last week, or see the video tape, "Hillary Uncensored."

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "California Burning"

Here's my announcement of running for Congress in 2008.

48 posted on 10/31/2007 7:40:00 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: flowerplough
>>Democracies fail when a majority of STUPID voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury, <<

There - fixed that for you.

49 posted on 10/31/2007 7:47:02 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: Always Right

>> Hillary should just be honest with people and say, ‘until we focus group the issue and sees how it will effect my poll numbers, I have no comment on the issue’.

ROFL! Now, that’s the kind of humor I need to get my day going.


50 posted on 10/31/2007 7:50:19 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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