Posted on 10/31/2007 12:53:18 PM PDT by mnehring
--Vanity-- Earlier this week, MilitaryForPaul.com broke with the big announcement that the VFW had endorsed Ron Paul.
(Still on their website, but updated) http://militaryforpaul.com/vfw.html
Well it seems, the VFW was not happy about this statement and issued the following letter to the owners of militaryforppaul.com
October 31, 2007 To: militaryforpaul.com From: Veterans of Foreign Wars-Political Action Committee
Sirs,
Please correct immediately your announcement about the “Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) Endorses Ron Paul”.
Your full statement is as follows.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) Endorses Ron Paul
Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) is an American veterans organization with over 2 million members. VFW works on behalf of American veterans by lobbying Congress for better veterans' health care and benefits. The VFW also maintains a nationwide organization of employees and volunteers to assist veterans with their VA disability claims and job placement.
VFW also donates hundreds of thousands of dollars and millions of hours for community service. One of their most popular programs, Operation Uplink, provides free phone cards to overseas service members.
The political action committee for VFW, VFW-PAC, has repeatedly endorsed Ron Paul throughout his congressional career.”
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The Veterans of Foreign Wars Political Action Committee does not endorse Presidential Candidates. The VFW-PAC endorsed Ron Paul in the 2004 and 2006 Texas Congressional races. The body of your statement is correct on what the VFW organization does for Veterans. However, by your title, you are implying that the VFW is endorsing candidate Ron Paul for the 2008 Presidential election. This title is untrue and needs to be corrected immediately. If this announcement is not corrected we will have no choice but to notify our 2 million members and the national media with a press conference that this announcement is untrue, deceiving and manipulative. This would be a great disservice to Ron Paul’s campaign and we are sure that he and his staff only want to disseminate the truth. The integrity of the VFW-PAC endorsement recommendations must be maintained.
Gerald L. Peterson VFW-PAC 200 Maryland Ave. N.E. Washington, DC 20002 gpeterson@vfw.org 202-544-8495
Ping
NOOOOOOOoooo!!!!......
Heeeeere they go again!
That's still a misleading statement. The VFW notification stated their support was for the 2004 & 2006 elections; not the 2008 election. I believe Paul is still a candidate for his House seat although he's running for President. To imply the VFW is endorsing him for his congressional seat is misleading.
Shocked, I tell you. Shocked.
Illegal spam, Truther pandering, taking money from Nazis, misrepresenting the VFW - there is no depth to which the Paulistinians will not sink to promote the leader of their cult.
Hi Gerald-
As you clearly stated, the site makes the following statement (emphasis added):
“The political action committee for VFW, VFW-PAC, has repeatedly endorsed Ron Paul throughout his congressional career.”
You also stated that VFW-PAC has endorsed Ron Paul in both the 2004 and 2006 Congressional races. This statement will stand, with the following modification (emphasis added):
“The political action committee for VFW, VFW-PAC, endorsed Ron Paul in both the 2004 and 2006 Congressional races.”
You are incorrect that we were trying to imply VFW endorsed Ron Paul for President. To the contrary, the text clearly read, “Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) endorses Ron Paul.” We didn’t state “for Congress” or “for President,” we simply said you endorsed him and that’s correct (as you yourself indicated). With all your fancy lawyers, I’d think you’d realize this. You have no legal basis to stand on, so your statement of facts is incorrect, and I’d like to point that out to you. Not as a response to your ludicrous claims and demands (shouldn’t you guys be spending time helping Veterans instead of picking on the little guy?) - but instead because of a concern brought up by a fellow Ron Paul supporter - the site has been updated to reflect that this endorsement was indeed for Congress in 2004 and 2006, to avoid any possible ambiguity.
We, Sir, have no need to be ambiguous, as apparently (and regretfully) may be perceived by the reader of the website, because Ron Paul’s record speaks for itself.
In reference to your “threats” of bringing my PAC national media attention - go ahead. I would like to make it crystal clear that we are a PAC, and in no way, shape, or form associated with the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee. To imply otherwise would be false and only make you guys look like hypocrites (”MilitaryForPaul.com can’t ‘deceive’ [your term, not mine], but we at VFW can!”).
Also, it would not do a disservice to the Ron Paul 2008 PCC or its staff, because again, we are in no way, shape, or form associated with them whatsoever. We are an independent Political Action Committee and totally separate from the campaign. The campaign has nothing to do with us.
Again, if you want to give us free publicity, be my guest. But if you mention anything about the campaign being involved, you will be proven to be hypocrites.
Respectfully,
Brandon Lloyd
Americans United for Freedom PAC
Thanks for clarifying that. At least we know Dr. Paul did not say that; but some supporter.
"Paid for by Americans United for Freedom (UnitedForFreedom.US) PAC. Not approved by any candidate or candidates committee. "
There are a bunch of dubious PACs around the Ron Paul campaign all taking donations. I wonder how much is paid out in salaries to the operators?
So he wants to be President and a congressman..
Maybe he’ll start a new Trend...
Sec. of State and Deputy Director of the ATF...
This is clearly present tense. However all endorsements noted both by the site owner, as well as the VFW, are in the past (past congressional campaigns up to and including 2006). Ergo, there is no valid current endorsement the Ron Paul site can claim.
This is truly a rude and acrimonious email. It's surely no way to win friends. Burning bridges is not the way to run successful campaigns, whether for congressional seats or the Presidency. But that seems to be typical of the Ron Paul express. If you're not for 'em you're again' 'em. And Katy bar the door.
Hey, that’s my line...
Oh well, you type it better...
Let’s hope we don’t find out....
Another “wa wa wa wa” moment it seems.
What a dick...
Mod remove if you want...
Why? You were clearly referring to mnehrling's uncovering of this issue by bringing up Dick Tracey. What's the big deal?
And will that traitor "Dr. Paul" publicly disavow this scumbaggery? No. He uses every trick in the book to shirk his personal responsibility for what his crew of troll supporters do.
This -— Americans United for Freedom - sounds like a demorat front.
In fact I would call it an act of SuperDickery...
I’ll suffer from there if need be.
Good question. One the VFW (or whomever) should look into. The idiot who wrote the email to them could well have opened Pandora's Box.
ping
You’re on a rampage for honesty today. Sheesh! I can’t cover for ya at all. Oh, well. I tried.
Thanks dude. I am all about clarity...
I have a journalist friend I am going to drop a note to look into this. She already is checking into the poll spamming.
If you haven't seen them don't miss Paul Campaign Responds to LST, re: Nazi Gold ["Cannot Say" They Will Reject Neo-Nazi Cash Donation] and Neo-Nazi Leader Organizing Ron Paul Youtube "Gaming", the latter support from Will "nothing says lovin' like a jew in the oven" Williams
I think they confused it with the other VFW—very funny wierdos.
Well, we pretty much know the campaign has been ‘acquired’ by every fringe element there is. Why shouldn’t the campaign be capitalized by the petty crooks? I’m not at all surprised.
But, the fact this has been allowed to happen is a testament to Ron Paul’s ability (read ‘lack thereof’) to run a campaign, let alone the Presidency.
Good. Somebody needs to look into it.
Is Ron Paul running a botnet spam op? [legal questions, overseas support]
But we're clearly winning it! Baghdad is a rather quiet place these days. Well, except for all those construction noises that go on during the day.
Whadda buncha surrender monkeys.
Thanks for the ping!
I noticed last night’s thread got pulled.
Ron Paul IS the issue.
No different than a Pres & VP candidate being sitting senators and don’t give up their seats so they can devote full time and attention to their goal....Can’t really have much confidence in a pair that has that little faith in their own chance.....
At least Bob Dole did the right thing.....
Frankly, any reference to a Ron Paul support site is suspicious. Don’t use it to buttress points. It doesn’t work.
Secondly, I’m a gun owner. I know a lot of gun owners. I don’t know any who are for Ron Paul or have any intention of backing his candidacy.
Sorry, but a big ZERO on your response.
Good point...
That just scares the ever living crap out of me...
I just took a quick look at the FEC site, but I’ve no idea if I was looking in the right place so I wouldn’t attach much significance to that. I was more curious if donors were available.
AMERICANS UNITED FOR FREEDOM (AUF) PAC
There are no donations listed, but if it is just one guy taking the money there is a big potential for hanky panky.
Count down now 2 days.
Wonderful! Please give him a HUGE hug for me!
Pictures will be provided.
Oh, that hug will unfortunately be delayed for a little more than a month. He won’t get leave until Dec.
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