Skip to comments.The third party temptation discredits its candidates (and their ideas) [MUST READ!]
Posted on 10/31/2007 1:23:31 PM PDT by neverdem
The persistent American fascination with third parties and fringe candidates defies every lesson of history, logic, human nature and common sense. No minor party candidate has ever won the presidency or, for that matter, even come close. For the most part, these ego-driven independent adventures in electoral narcissism push the political process further away from their professed goals, rather than advancing their agendas or ideas.
Nevertheless, a clear majority of Americans (58%) in September, 2007, told the Gallup Poll that the two major parties do such a poor job that a third major party is needed, while only 39% agree with a statement that the established parties do an adequate job of representing the American people. A Rasmussen Survey (May, 2007) produced similar results, with 58% agreeing with the statement that it would be good for the United States if there were a truly competitive third party, and only 23% disagreeing. Among religious conservatives, prominent leaders talk openly of backing a kamikaze candidate if Rudy Giuliani becomes the GOP nominee, and a Rasmussen telephone survey shows a striking 27% of Republicans willing to back a Pro Life Third Party in the event that the former New York Mayor heads the ticket. In his illiterate and all-but-unreadable new book Independents Day, CNNs fatuous fraud Lou Dobbs expresses similar eagerness to abandon the traditional two-party system. Now I dont know about you, he harrumphs, but fundamentally I dont see much of a difference between Republicans and Democrats The creation of a third, independent choice, one that has the concerns of American working people as its basis, is the way we must proceed.
This unquenchable enthusiasm for new parties and marginal, ego-driven candidacies rests on a foundation of profound ignorance and unassailable historical illiteracy. Even a nodding acquaintance with the American past reveals uncomfortable...
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Wow, Medved really doesn’t care for Lou Dobbs, does he?
Third parties aren’t that good an idea, he’s right - theoretically, someone could win with two percent of the popular vote in a multiparty contest by manipulating the EC.
27% back a Pro-Life Third Party.
They could win.
They are close to a third of the electorate and in this system a plurality wins...not a majority. They are only 6 points away from a third as it stands....
Since it would actually be the conservative Republicans involved in it, I’d call it the Conservative Republican Party and let all the disenchanted conservatives and Republicans know that in this is our chance to stand up against the rockefeller, elitist, anti-life, pro-gay, anti-gun new york liberal RINOs.
We tried our very best. Don’t you remember?
“The Republican Revolution is what the Republican Party dubbed their success in the 1994 U.S. midterm elections, which resulted in a net gain of 54 seats in the House of Representatives, and a pickup of eight seats in the Senate. The day after the election, Democratic Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama changed parties, becoming a Republican.”
“The gains in seats in the mid-term election resulted in the Republicans gaining control of both the House and the Senate in January 1995. Republicans had not held the majority in the House for forty years, since the 83rd Congress (elected in 1952) under Republican Speaker Joseph William Martin, Jr..”
There is precedence: Abe Lincoln and the birth of the Republican party. I think this nation is headed for a major political upheaval. The Republican party defies its conservative base at its own peril.
No, It’s not a MUST READ; Though Michael Medved does make some good, and interesting points!
We are not “there” yet, a 3rd party is not really a national option, a state one certainly, a Senator or Gov.
REason being is the votes are to concentrated in a few areas, they would need much more of a spread.
It would reming me of Wallace’s failed bid, or Thurmond’s failed bid.
Third parties are just a way for single issue voters to have a self-destructive temper tantrum on election day.
Good thought....it would be good to see how the Republicans of Lincoln’s era pulled off the upheaval.
Don't get rapped around the axle. The main justification that I've seen for Rudy was that he was the only one who could who stood a chance against the neoCOM. That's not the case according to Rasmussen. Rudy alienates too many single issue voters. In states with open primaries Rudy won't get their votes.
my guts tell me that there are pro-life conservatives, pro-life churches, etc., spread evenly throughout the population.
So far as I know, though, all but a few primaries are winner-take-all.
The conservatives are divided up between too many candidates.
I look at it this way..........If a third party were to be developed and developed correctly with the right people, either the Democrats or the Republicans would become the third party and meaningless. This would make it remain a two party system. A third party, developed after the election and utilized for 2012 would have time gain steam and give the people what they really want.....representation. It would take tons of work, but it could be done.
Medved’s article is based on the false premise there are two parties. The fact is the GOP has moved so far to the left in an effort to appease the socialist Democrats for the sake of compromise that the GOP ahs aligned its ideology with the socialists. They are essentially one party. Another party would restore the two party system.
Republican moderates changed the primaries to eliminate the conservative candidates:
For two decades, Republicans endorsed open primaries as a way to build a Big Tent by wooing indies and conservative Dems to the nominating process. The hope was that the newcomers would stick with the party for the general election and vote the ticket. The strategy worked, helping the GOP win control of state legislatures across the south.
Exactly, we've got two choices, run away from the problem, or get involved, and fix the Problem from within.
Gosh. I hadn’t given serious thought to a third party.
But, if Medved is agin it, I might have to give it some consideration...
Just how do you "strengthen" a position of 100% control?