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Postings to Iraq Upset Diplomats
AP ^ | 10-31-2007 | By MATTHEW LEE

Posted on 10/31/2007 1:36:36 PM PDT by johnny7

WASHINGTON (AP) — Several hundred U.S. diplomats vented anger and frustration Wednesday about the State Department's decision to force foreign service officers to take jobs in Iraq, with some likening it to a "potential death sentence."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cowards; iraq; pissants; usembassy; wot
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1 posted on 10/31/2007 1:36:37 PM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7

Unbelievable. It is a long known that the State Department and Diplomats in general are pantsies and sissies, but this utter cowardice is incredible. The troops over there don’t complain when deployed. (Well except the handful traitors running to Canada to avoid service.)


2 posted on 10/31/2007 1:39:38 PM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: johnny7

Send every last State Dept employee there (or to Afghanistan, or to Somalia).

Treason against the U.S. will be cut in half.


3 posted on 10/31/2007 1:39:44 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: johnny7
Maybe now State will stop stabbing the armed forces in the back because it will be State Dept people that will be the chickens coming home to roost is a place they can't handle.

And most are libs that hate Blackwater, the people assigned to protect them.

4 posted on 10/31/2007 1:40:41 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: johnny7

Fire them.


5 posted on 10/31/2007 1:41:49 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Allegra

Allegra, you have to read this!


6 posted on 10/31/2007 1:42:03 PM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: johnny7
Karma...


7 posted on 10/31/2007 1:42:06 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: johnny7

“Thou hast not to like it-thou hast just to do it.”

—Richard Marcinko, Sixth Commandment of SpecWar


8 posted on 10/31/2007 1:42:21 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Doom on you! Doom on you! Doom on you! Doom on you! Doom on you! Doom on you!...")
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To: pissant

They have a union; you can though give them the most undesirable assignments in third world shitholes.


9 posted on 10/31/2007 1:43:23 PM PDT by steve8714 (How can we make our children proud today?)
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To: johnny7

Fire the pansies.

What panty-waists......


10 posted on 10/31/2007 1:43:27 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: pissant

You got it!

Fire them !!!!


11 posted on 10/31/2007 1:43:31 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Allegra

Meet ‘em at the airport and hand out socks and crying towels, Allegra. You’ve been there what four years?


12 posted on 10/31/2007 1:44:44 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Gunners til I die!")
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To: johnny7

Where Oh Where is that POS Joe Wilson? remember he was the so-called Ambassador in Iraq after only he was left in the first Gulf War?


13 posted on 10/31/2007 1:46:08 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: SolidWood
The troops over there don’t complain when deployed.

Our troops also do not have the option of simply quitting and finding a new job if they do not like their current line of work either. These whiners do.

14 posted on 10/31/2007 1:46:24 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: johnny7

I cannot believe these Diplomats are behaving in this manner. time to truly earn your money. bunch of cowards.


15 posted on 10/31/2007 1:46:41 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: johnny7

Everyone together now:

one . . .

two . . .

three . . .

Awwwwwwwww. Poor babies.

(There - ya got your sympathy. Now get to work. In Iraq. . . . and quit whining.)


16 posted on 10/31/2007 1:47:18 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: johnny7

Isn’t about time we clean up State? Did they all think they were destined for postings in Paris or London?

Where the rubber meets the road, you will only find the DOD! As for their whinning...give those screaming the loudest the boot!


17 posted on 10/31/2007 1:47:50 PM PDT by mort56
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To: RichInOC

Du mon nheiu to all of those light heeled bespoke State Dept ‘Crats.

Hmm, it could be fun, lots of sunshine, beaches down on the Tigris, I would bet that these folks would turn into Hobbits for their 1 or 2 year stays in the Friendly Confines of Baghdad.


18 posted on 10/31/2007 1:49:39 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on/Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Ancient Drive
I cannot believe these Diplomats are behaving in this manner.

Really?

19 posted on 10/31/2007 1:50:57 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: airborne

And kick them in the a** on the way out the door.


20 posted on 10/31/2007 1:54:53 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: SolidWood

diplomats vented anger and frustration Wednesday about the State Department’s decision to force foreign service officers to take jobs in Iraq, with some likening it to a “potential death sentence.”


Could be payback time and cleanup time. I don’t see a problem here...heh,heh,heh!!!


21 posted on 10/31/2007 1:54:54 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: pnh102

Fire anyone of them who refuses to go. They volunteered to be diplomats. Sucks to have an assignment outside of the Green Zone where they may not have cold drinks and swimming pools.


22 posted on 10/31/2007 1:57:22 PM PDT by sitkaspruce
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To: johnny7

Send me.


23 posted on 10/31/2007 1:58:03 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (Thompson Democrats)
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To: johnny7
Give me the pay and benefits of the State Department and Blackwater to protect me and I’ll happily go. This is just anti-Americanism by the people at State.
24 posted on 10/31/2007 2:02:11 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: CholeraJoe
Meet ‘em at the airport and hand out socks and crying towels, Allegra. You’ve been there what four years?

Four years come January '08.

I've seen fire and I've seen rain.

I've seen war and now...I'm seeing the beginning of peace. Yes, peace is breaking out in Iraq. (What?? The media isn't talking about this back home???)

What an amazing journey and an absolute life affirming experience.

And what a bunch of weinies those loafer-wearing, latte-sipping, Blackberry-addicted State Department people are.

25 posted on 10/31/2007 2:02:42 PM PDT by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
"He also stressed that all diplomats sign an oath to serve the country that obligates them to be available to work anywhere in the world."

That must be the problem. They didn't understand what they signed. (Hee hee hee)

26 posted on 10/31/2007 2:03:01 PM PDT by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: johnny7
diplomats vented anger and frustration Wednesday about the State Department's decision to force foreign service officers to take jobs in Iraq, with some likening it to a "potential death sentence."

Oh, quit your freakin' whining, you bunch of State Department snots. "Potential death sentence." Please. What a gaggle of drama queens.

27 posted on 10/31/2007 2:05:28 PM PDT by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: pissant

I’m sure that with all of their ‘people skills’ they’ll be able to find jobs at McDonalds or Burger King with very little trouble.


28 posted on 10/31/2007 2:14:57 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: johnny7

Time to clean out the State Department. Fire them all and start over again. “Nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”


29 posted on 10/31/2007 2:17:52 PM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney for President 2008)
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To: airborne

I doubt they are qualified for any real labor such as burger flipping. Used Car salesmen, perhaps.


30 posted on 10/31/2007 2:18:43 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: johnny7
STATE DEPARTMENT UNION HEAD RESPONDS TO FORCED IRAQ POSTINGS

"I'm not going and you can't make me!"


31 posted on 10/31/2007 2:38:01 PM PDT by Leisler (RNC, Rino National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Leisler
OFFICIAL CLOTHES SUPPLIER TO UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC CORPS.
32 posted on 10/31/2007 2:41:53 PM PDT by Leisler (RNC, Rino National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: SolidWood
"Incoming is coming in every day, rockets are hitting the Green Zone," said one who identified himself as Jack Crotty, a senior foreign service officer who once worked as a political adviser with NATO forces.

Oh, give me a break! Incoming is not coming into the Green Zone these days! I just had a serve a few days' sentence in the Green Zone for meetings. There hasn't been a hit on the place in months.

"I would just urge you, now that now we are looking at compulsory service in a war zone, that we have a moral imperative as an agency to take care of people who ... come back with war wounds," said Rachel Schnelling...

Oh, cry me a freakin' RIVER! Almost everybody comes back from Iraq with no "war wounds." I've never seen such a bunch of whiny drama queens in my life.

33 posted on 10/31/2007 2:46:12 PM PDT by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: johnny7

I was at a military exchage in Germany and was told that as retired military I couldn’t shop there. I asked about the obviously non-military 20-something type shopping and was told he was State Department.

Send them to Iraq, they can use the exchanges to buy their crying towels.


34 posted on 10/31/2007 2:53:47 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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To: Allegra
As a are retired foreign service officer who served in hardship and danger posts, including in Iran during the fall of the Shah and the arrival of Khomeini, I am ashamed of such a response from many of my former colleagues. Many foreign service officers have lost their lives in the service of their country. The current crop dishonors their memory.

Part of the problem is that many FSOs today have never served in the military. I am a Vietnam vet with 8 years of military service and most of the FSOs I served with when I entered in 1972 had military service. They understood that their job could involve being exposed to dangerous situations. Since the end of WWII, more ambassadors have been killed in the line of duty than generals. Our embassies have been blown up around the globe and many US diplomats killed or injured. This sounds more like a political statement than anything else. Shame.

35 posted on 10/31/2007 2:58:33 PM PDT by kabar
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To: johnny7

Department of State has always been a fifth column organization. Bunch of know-it-all elitist who have very little to feel elite about.


36 posted on 10/31/2007 3:11:02 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Liberals love "McCarthism," they just believe he was targeting the wrong side.)
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To: johnny7

This is a Reagan vs. the Aircraft Controllers union opportunity. Everyone who refuses to go and gets fired will be one less anti-American leaker at Foggy Bottom. The only questions should be how many do we need to fire (I fear that 88-12 split may be meaningful), how quickly we can replace then with pro-American types and how few we can get by with during the transition. Ideally we get someone like Bolton to suggest whom we want to send as a way of purging them.


37 posted on 10/31/2007 3:11:58 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: Enterprise

The State department recruiters lied to them.


38 posted on 10/31/2007 3:14:19 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: johnny7
...As long as these liberal "Government bureaucrats(State/CIA)" were safe/cozy and @ home, these "bureaucrats" turned traitor on GWB, now they’re being placed in positions, where there is real danger......maybe now they’ll start doing their jobs...if not, then they should be fired.
39 posted on 10/31/2007 3:17:33 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: Doctor Raoul
There was only so much that Condi could do to change the Department. Bush is deeply unpopular at State and Rice is seen as "Bush's Secretary". They pine for a Clinton Restoration, and Iraq is seen as "Bush's War". There are a lot of people here who don't understand that. DOS never supported the GWOT, even under Powell. It's a Clintonite outpost.

Don't blame Condi for this. Hell, she's the one who instituted the draft and has tried to push some necessary reforms, such as moving people out of Paris and Berlin and moving them to Calcutta and Bangkok.

If Fred or Rudy become President, there are those in the Department who will positively die.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

40 posted on 10/31/2007 3:21:17 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: JimSEA
Give me the pay and benefits of the State Department and Blackwater to protect me and I’ll happily go. This is just anti-Americanism by the people at State....

same here, I'll even carry weapons and pass the ammo, too. :D

41 posted on 10/31/2007 3:22:47 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: johnny7
It's one thing if someone believes in what's going on over there and volunteers . . .

That one phrase speaks so much to what is wrong with the petty independent kingdom known as the US State Department.

42 posted on 10/31/2007 3:23:47 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Without imagined victims there could not be a democrat party.)
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To: Allegra
thank you...for your honorable service....not these "people"
43 posted on 10/31/2007 3:26:08 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: kabar
thank you...for your honorable service....not these "people"
44 posted on 10/31/2007 3:31:03 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: section9

During the 2004 presidential campaign a group known as Democrats Abroad campaigned heavily for Kerry. I was convinced that most of the members of that group were state dept employees and members of various ngos. Of course, no ‘news’ agency ever investigated that group because they were probably participants if they lived abroad.

For example, the Tehran Times ran regular articles and letters to the editor in praise of Kerry. How many private industry Americans live and work in Iran?


45 posted on 10/31/2007 3:42:15 PM PDT by maica
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To: Allegra
Somebody else said that most of the deaths this month are from accidents. You can't haul big machinery and aircraft around flight lines without paying attention.

Yesterday the 405 in the Sepulveda Pass was closed because a crane jack-knifed and burned. The guy died. 8 lanes of traffic shut down. They spent all day cutting it up with high pressure oxy-acet torches. It looked like a cheap crane to start with. To do a job correctly, you hire a 180 ton crane from Ventura that needs an escort. 16 Big tires and 2 guys driving that. It is bigger than 4 tanks. Come back to tell us what you saw. You may want to stay there rather than here.

46 posted on 10/31/2007 3:44:30 PM PDT by BobS (I><P>)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Please be advised that the jobs have been filled with volunteers since 2003 and that, "State has filled about 80 percent of next year’s vacancies in Iraq but has 48 remaining. If those positions aren’t filled voluntarily by Nov. 12, the department will begin making directed assignments, Harry Thomas, director general of the Foreign Service, announced Oct. 27."

It is not fair to damn everyone when it is a relatively small minority that is unwilling to serve voluntarily.

47 posted on 10/31/2007 3:55:57 PM PDT by kabar
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To: TexanToTheCore

IIRC they only select about 1% of applicants for entry into the foreign service, so in the past people have been lined up a long way for the opportunity to pursue this career......... maybe this is a great time for some housecleaning in the State Dept. and we can find people who really want to serve their country ..... more than they care about sipping Sauvignon Blanc at EU cocktail parties.

This could be a great career opening for current and ex-military people who want a new challenge, want to switch gears to a different form of service to their country, etc. We can start by booting a few hundred Ivy Leaguers from their cushy careers and replacing them with military types who know something about patriotism, work, hardship, and fortitude!!


48 posted on 10/31/2007 4:22:56 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrat terror-fighting motto: "BLEAT - CHEAT - RETREAT - DEFEAT")
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To: johnny7

Reminds that when George Shultz took over as Secretary of State he’d call in this ambassador and that consul and ask them to point to “their country” on the map and they’d invariably point to France or Venezuela or China or whatever country they were assigned to. Then Schultz would stop them, slap a palm on the US of A, and say “No - THIS is your country.”


49 posted on 10/31/2007 4:35:54 PM PDT by Argus
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To: johnny7
some likening it to a "potential death sentence."

Just how many American diplomats have been killed there since 2003?

50 posted on 10/31/2007 4:43:08 PM PDT by SuziQ
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