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Christmas should be 'downgraded', says Labour's favourite think tank (U.K.)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | October 31, 2007 | JAMES CHAPMAN

Posted on 10/31/2007 3:00:51 PM PDT by Stoat

Christmas should be 'downgraded', says Labour's favourite think tank

By JAMES CHAPMAN - More by this author » Last updated at 20:05pm on 31st October 2007

 

Scarborough Christmas lights

National celebration: But could Christmas soon be 'downgraded'?

Britain is no longer a Christian nation and Christmas should be downgraded in favour of festivals from other religions to improve race relations, according to an explosive new report.

Labour's favourite think tank says that because it would be hard to 'expunge' Christmas from the national calendar, 'even-handedness' means public organisations must start giving other religions equal footing.

The leaked findings of its investigation into identity, citizenship and community cohesion, seen by the Daily Mail, triggered a storm of protest.

Other controversial measures it proposes include:

• New 'birth ceremonies', at which the state and parents agree to 'work in partnership' to bring up newborns
• Action to 'ensure access' for ethnic minorities to the 'largely white' British countryside
• An overhaul of Britain's 'imperial' honours system
• Bishops being thrown out of the House of Lords
• An end to 'sectarian' religious education in schools
• Encouraging people to fly flags other than the Union Jack

The report has been prepared by the Institute for Public Policy Research, which has close ties to Labour and has shaped many of its key policies, including ID cards, bin taxes and road pricing.

It was commissioned when Nick Pearce, now head of public policy at Downing Street, was its director, and its publication delayed several times.

The report robustly defends the doctrine of multiculturalism - the idea that different communities should not be forced to integrate but should be allowed to maintain their own culture and identities - which has been widely criticised in recent months.

It insists there is no 'evidence to support the claim that multiculturalist policies lead to fragmented communities'.

It says immigrants should be required to acquire some proficiency in the English language and other aspects of British culture 'if - but only if - the settled population is willing to open up national institutions and practices to newcomers and give a more inclusive cast to national narratives and symbols'.

'Even-handedness dictates that we provide public recognition to minority cultures and traditions,' the report goes on.

'If we are going to continue as a nation to mark Christmas - and it would be very hard to expunge it from our national life even if we wanted to - then public organisations should mark other religious festivals too.

'We can no longer define ourselves as a Christian nation, nor an especially religious one in any sense. The empire is gone, church attendance is at historically low levels, and the Second World War is inexorably slipping from memory.'

The report, written by IPPR advisers Ben Rogers and Rick Muir, calls on ministers to launch an 'urgent and upfront campaign' promoting a 'multicultural understanding of Britishness'.

'Multiculturalism can be shown to provide for a fairer and more liberal society and does not necessarily lead to social division and community conflict, as its critics have claimed,' it says.

Local education authorities must act to 'ensure children mix and are able to form friendships with pupils from different backgrounds'.

The report adds: 'Any liberal state should recast the civic oaths and national ceremonies, or institutions like Parliament and the monarchy, in a more multi-religious or secular form and make religious education less sectarian.'

The presence of Bishops in the House of Lords, for instance, is condemned as a 'historical anachronism' that should be removed.

The system in which parents are required to register a new-born child at their local registry office is dismissed as 'purely bureaucratic'.

The occasion should be transformed into a 'public rite', using citizenship ceremonies for immigrants as a model, the report says.

'Parents, their friends and family and the state (would) agree to work in partnership to support and bring up their child.'

Rural Britain, the report complains, 'remains a largely white place' and the 'least culturally diverse part of the country'.

Much more needs to be done to 'ensure access' to the countryside for black and ethnic minority groups, disabled people and children from inner-city areas.

The move is necessary 'if our natural heritage is to provide a common source of identity'.

A new national 'civic day' should be held on the Monday following Remembrance Sunday, the report says, on which citizens would be thanked for and encouraged to take part in voluntary service.

The day would provide a 'unique moment, which we arguably lack at present, to reflect on our common history, fate and values'.

Large numbers of 'citizenship ceremonies' for new arrivals would also be held around the country. And people should be encouraged to 'fly many flags, not just one'.

The honours system is condemned as 'too complex, poorly understood and mixed up with outdated notions of hierarchy, patronage and empire'.

A smaller number of honours should be awarded on the new 'civic day', should no longer confer social titles and should make no reference to 'empire or the military'.

The Government should also explore the idea of making voting in elections a compulsory 'civic act'.

And national galleries and museums are also told they must do more to promote multi-cultural Britain.

'The kind of conservative nation-building projects that led to the establishment of many of these old institutions is finished,' it insists.

'The role of our national galleries and museums should instead be to provide a distinctively national space in which we can reflect on the multiplicity of identities, stories and cultures that make up modern Britain.'

Shadow Minister for Community Cohesion Sayeeda Warsi said: 'Gordon Brown's favoured think tank's advisers have clearly lost the plot.

'Their comments betray a breathtaking misunderstanding of what it is to be British. These proposals could actually damage community cohesion.'

But an IPPR spokesman insisted: 'Sayeeda Warsi clearly doesn't understand the point we are making. IPPR's report recommends that Christmas should be celebrated by all who want to but that society should respect the religious festivals of all faiths in Britain.'


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antichristmas; britain; christianity; christmas; diversity; england; greatbritain; labour; uk; ukmuslims; unitedkingdom
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Santa gets heave ho-ho (Few British stores hiring Saint Nick anymore)

1 posted on 10/31/2007 3:00:53 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Is there a depth to which the left will not sink?

I think not.


2 posted on 10/31/2007 3:04:23 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: NYer; Coleus; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480

Ping :-(


3 posted on 10/31/2007 3:05:25 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
Well, I suppose "even-handedness" must prevail although I'd hate to see them lose some of the nicer Christmas customs such as human sacrifice. But this one - An end to 'sectarian' religious education in schools - isn't going to go over very well in the madrasas. Perhaps an exception might be made.

Methinks somebody's been peeing into the think tank again.

4 posted on 10/31/2007 3:06:04 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Stoat

Britain is no longer a Christian nation and Christmas should be downgraded in favour of festivals from other religions to improve race relations....
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Cowards. Churchill and Thatcher would not agree...but they were NOT cowards, and were true British leaders.


5 posted on 10/31/2007 3:06:36 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Stoat

islamist britain


6 posted on 10/31/2007 3:06:43 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Stoat

Dickens would be disappointed but not surprised.


7 posted on 10/31/2007 3:07:00 PM PDT by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Stoat

I’m all for reduced spending.


8 posted on 10/31/2007 3:08:44 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Stoat
OMG, isn’t this the country of Dickens.
9 posted on 10/31/2007 3:09:07 PM PDT by SHOOT THE MOON bat ("Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords" Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: Stoat

Will the UKIP gain new members as a result of this brilliant positioning by Labour? There is little hope for Britain if it is left to Labour or the Tories. Left to Labour, the UK will become the UNK. UNK as in United Nations’ Kingodom or UNK as in Unknown- either will be fine with them...


10 posted on 10/31/2007 3:15:47 PM PDT by philled ("CNBC?...You might as well be doing ham radio at that point."-- Dennis Miller)
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To: Stoat
Christmas should be downgraded in favour of festivals from other religions to improve race relations

Oh puhleaze!!  Don't give us this "other religions" BS.  There is only one religion they want to grovel to ... Islam.

After all these years they never cared to not offend any other religion, now, suddenly, they are becoming "multi-cultured?  Gotta give the muzzies credit for one thing, they sure know how to get their way, don't they?  They bend to no culture, but we sure as hell bend to theirs.

Wimps.  Our world is getting overrun by these people and we just sit back and let them.  I am sure the MEN who fought in WW2 are looking at us with sadness and contempt.

11 posted on 10/31/2007 3:18:46 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: Stoat
Britain is no longer a Christian nation

If you give up British culture, how long before you give up British rights, British courts of law, British history? Give up all those, and you cease to be Brittain.

To whom are these people cowering, and what do they think it will get them? What a sorry state of affairs.

12 posted on 10/31/2007 3:24:35 PM PDT by Lou L
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To: Stoat

Castro did that.


13 posted on 10/31/2007 3:25:32 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: SHOOT THE MOON bat

This is the ground work being laid for the antichrist and his end times one world religion, such a grocery list and how quick it is all being thrown at that fan...


14 posted on 10/31/2007 3:34:25 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Stoat
New 'birth ceremonies', at which the state and parents agree to 'work in partnership' to bring up newborns

That right there is worthy of bloody revolution. Or ought to be.

15 posted on 10/31/2007 3:38:35 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: softwarecreator
The “multiculturalist” are making a scapegoat out of the other religion. They would being doing all this stuff regardless, even if they didn’t have a “combative” religion to blame it on. Globalists have an agenda and they are allowing things to be over run, they are allowing the chaos - believe it or not.
16 posted on 10/31/2007 3:42:32 PM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Stoat
Image hosted by Photobucket.com first time i ever watched a country commit suicide...
17 posted on 10/31/2007 3:47:35 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Stoat

How much longer before the UK is under sharia law? Can’t be more than 50 years. Maybe 100 if they are likely but its coming. No question in my mind of that.


18 posted on 10/31/2007 3:53:51 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Stoat

Apparantly there will not always be an England.


19 posted on 10/31/2007 4:04:27 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Stoat
...other religions to improve race relations...

This is rather transparent. A religion is not a race. The only religion who's adherents like to claim it is would be Islam.

20 posted on 10/31/2007 4:37:34 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: Da Coyote

“The shifting winds of doctrine”..myfriend.


21 posted on 10/31/2007 4:46:53 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: nosofar

Oh, yes. I might be wrong, but I believe Jews generally differentiate between the Jewish ethnic group and the Jewish religion (Judaism). There is at least some grounds for considering the two to be the same at times.


22 posted on 10/31/2007 4:47:14 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: Esther Ruth
You may be right, but it just seems like since 9-11 there is an increased effort to get rid of everything that would offend muslims ... Christmas, Easter, Halloween, etc.

Could be that I'm just paying more attention to it lately.

23 posted on 10/31/2007 7:05:16 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: M. Espinola

ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF ENGLAND

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/23822/Christmas-is-harmful-to-us-


24 posted on 10/31/2007 10:05:28 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Take a look at the staff. Not one of them has any experience at life, as a comment on the article pointed out. They are all a bunch young leftist, freshly minted from UK colleges and steeped in ‘multi-cultural’ physcobabble.

http://www.ippr.org/aboutippr/staff/


25 posted on 10/31/2007 10:29:57 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Stoat

Jesus wept.

(btw: shortest sentence in the Bible)


26 posted on 10/31/2007 10:43:15 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
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To: Stoat

New ‘birth ceremonies’, at which the state and parents agree to ‘work in partnership’ to bring up newborns

Oh God is that scary or what?


27 posted on 11/01/2007 1:42:44 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: Stoat
Multiculturalism is Balkanization by another name. When introduced into a single State, it almost always results in conflict, division, and the dissolution of the State.
28 posted on 11/01/2007 1:42:52 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering * Go Hoos! * Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: Islander7
Take a look at the staff. Not one of them has any experience at life, as a comment on the article pointed out. They are all a bunch young leftist, freshly minted from UK colleges and steeped in ‘multi-cultural’ physcobabble.

I sit here wondering in astonishment how these kind of people ever make it into positions of power and administration.

We have to root out these people from their so-called positions of responsibility quick before their weak mindedness ends up suffocating us all with socialist/communist/equality laden drivel that's almost impossible to recover from.

Political correctness = cowardliness

29 posted on 11/01/2007 5:37:52 AM PDT by snowman_returns (The Stone Roses - best band the world ever saw!!)
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To: Billthedrill
Methinks somebody's been peeing into the think tank again.

LOL. That pretty much sums it up.
30 posted on 11/01/2007 5:43:16 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Stoat

What rubbish.


31 posted on 11/01/2007 8:11:43 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Stoat

Dhimmitude!

Yeah, I’m SURE that the Moslems in Britain are going to “downgrade” Ramadan and the Hajj in order to get along with the rest of the people, too.

Our descendents will use this article as more proof of the suicide of the West. Assuming they’re allowed to read it.


32 posted on 11/01/2007 8:56:21 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: Stoat

yup. Christmas should be downgraded and the secular powers that be should be deified. yup. (heil hillary!)


33 posted on 11/01/2007 11:17:59 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Stoat

btt


34 posted on 11/01/2007 2:26:06 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Stoat

I’m glad I left England.


35 posted on 11/01/2007 2:34:40 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Britain is no longer a Christian nation and Christmas should be downgraded in favour of festivals from other religions to improve race relations, according to an explosive new report.

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

36 posted on 11/01/2007 3:39:59 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

How do you downgrade a holiday?


37 posted on 11/01/2007 3:42:28 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Stoat
The report robustly defends the doctrine of multiculturalism - the idea that different communities should not be forced to integrate but should be allowed to maintain their own culture and identities...unless you are white...then you must integrate and downgrade your culture and identity.
38 posted on 11/01/2007 4:02:39 PM PDT by gdc314
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To: dragonblustar

After you said that, I had to check where you live now to make sure you weren’t setting yourself up for another disappointment, but I see you’re in Kentucky so you’re safe.


39 posted on 11/01/2007 7:03:26 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: knighthawk

It sounds like Labour’s stink tank..


40 posted on 11/01/2007 7:57:25 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: knighthawk
Thank you very much for pinging your list   :-)

 

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41 posted on 11/01/2007 8:20:19 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: gdc314
unless you are white...then you must integrate and downgrade your culture and identity.

Strange, I keep hearing about how it's the 'evil white people' who "oppress, dominate, and subjugate" other cultures around the world

42 posted on 11/01/2007 8:34:03 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Take a look at the staff.

The staff seems overwhelmingly white. Shouldn't they be offering to step down from Mt. Olympus in the interest of diversity and multi-culturism?

43 posted on 11/02/2007 4:35:06 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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Action to 'ensure access' for ethnic minorities to the 'largely white' British countryside

Zimbabwe.

44 posted on 11/02/2007 4:36:53 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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Action to 'ensure access' for ethnic minorities to the 'largely white' British countryside

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Zimbabwe.

That seems an extreme comparison... at first. Ultimately, it could certainly go in that direction.

The U.N. and legislation which partners with U.N. initiatives is largely to blame for the changing face of the U.K. The following is from a Q&A webpage on the Kirklees, West Yorkshire website. Note the evasive answer to the "Illegal Immigrants" question... evidently the U.K. has adopted the term "asylum seeker" to cover all such "immigrants".

It's interesting, nonetheless, that "Why can't we just get rid of the lot of them" made it to an online Q&A list.

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Q: Why do we allow asylum seekers into Kirklees?

A: Under the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 newly arrived asylum seekers are dispersed across the UK away from the hard pressed local authorities in London and the South East. Kirklees Council is part of the Yorkshire & Humberside Consortium who contracts with the Home Office to provide accommodation.

Q: Where do the asylum seekers who arrive in Kirklees come from?

A: They are mainly Kurds from Iraq, Farsi speakers from Iran and Afghanistan and French and English speaking Africans. A smaller number come from Bosnia and Pakistan.

Q: Why should asylum seekers be allowed to receive benefits and free services?

A: Asylum seekers are not allowed to claim mainstream welfare benefits. They receive 70% of regular income support - so asylum seekers are forced to live 30% below the poverty line. The UK gives asylum seekers less financial support than some other European countries such as Belgium, Ireland and Denmark.

Q: Why don't we just send all illegal immigrants back to where they came from?

A: Refugees are people who have been forced to flee their homes. It is often impossible for them to apply in their home countries, leaving them no choice in where they claim asylum. Often governments refuse to issue passports to known political dissidents and they may risk imprisonment if they apply. The UK has specific legal obligations towards asylum seekers on British territory.

Sending asylum seekers back to persecution violates international human rights standards. Article 33 of the 1951 UN Convention for Refugees prohibits the UK expelling or returning a refugee until their case is heard. Many asylum seekers are well-educated professionals who may have left behind good jobs and a decent standard of living.

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45 posted on 11/02/2007 10:21:35 AM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Stoat

“The Government should also explore the idea of making voting in elections a compulsory ‘civic act’.”

This little gem stands out quite a bit. Mandatory voting would ensure Labour a stranglehold on the government for generations.


46 posted on 11/02/2007 10:51:24 AM PDT by Nexus
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To: Charles Martel
That seems an extreme comparison... at first.

Yes, and they're counting on the "don't be ridiculous!" factor. It's been hugely successful so far.

Re the "illegal immigrants" question, who wouldn't want to welcome self-described "asylum seekers" with no authentic proof of identity with open arms?

It's like watching a slow-motion train wreck.

47 posted on 11/02/2007 12:35:41 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Stoat

At your service!


48 posted on 11/02/2007 3:08:15 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Esther Ruth
"This is the ground work being laid for the antichrist and his end times one world religion, such a grocery list and how quick it is all being thrown at that fan..."

AMEN!

50 posted on 11/02/2007 5:24:24 PM PDT by CarolinaGOP ("Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." - Ronald Reagan)
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