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Bar blasts judge for calling prostitute's rape 'robbery'(FEMALE JUDGE!!!!)
AP ^ | 11/1/2007 | Maryclaire Dale

Posted on 11/01/2007 5:07:20 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

In a rare rebuke, the city's bar association condemned a judge who dismissed rape charges in the alleged gang rape of a prostitute and instead called it a theft of services.

The prostitute admitted going to a home on Sept. 20 to have paid sex with a customer but said she was instead gang-raped by four men, including the customer, while he fixed a gun on her.

Municipal Judge Teresa Carr Deni dropped the rape and sexual-assault charges at an Oct. 4 preliminary hearing, but upheld robbery, false imprisonment and conspiracy charges against Dominique Gindraw.

Deni has since heightened the furor in defending her decision to a newspaper.

''She consented and she didn't get paid,'' Deni told the Philadelphia Daily News. ''I thought it was a robbery.''

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


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KEYWORDS: judges; law; loonyjudges; pa; rape
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She should be disbarred for this type of thinking, for lack of a better word.
1 posted on 11/01/2007 5:07:21 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

I meant permanently taken off the bench, not disbarred.


2 posted on 11/01/2007 5:08:01 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I think the judge was right on....and I’m a woman. The prostitute showed up already consenting to sex, she didn’t get her money....robbery, possible armed robbery. But I understand that “props” such as ropes, knives and handuffs are used during the act of prostituting, so even the gun probably isn’t that unusual.


3 posted on 11/01/2007 5:19:32 AM PDT by colorcountry (The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it - Brigham Young)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Some judges are nothing more than criminals in robes.


4 posted on 11/01/2007 5:20:39 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Red in Blue PA

“a theft of services.”

She doesn’t have much respect for prostitutes, does she?

When I saw the headline, I thought the angle was going to be that the prostitute did not get paid, so she claimed rape. The judge was a little more cynical even than I was.


5 posted on 11/01/2007 5:21:33 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: colorcountry

I don’t know what to say.

The woman consented to sex with one person. And even then it can still be rape if that one person starts pulling out toys she doesn’t want used and says “no”.

I am not a lawyer but can see this much.

Amazing how people here seem to love the rule of law, but not for certain people such as prostitutes.

And sad too.


6 posted on 11/01/2007 5:22:28 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

So which of the perps did she agree to have sex with? By your own recogning, he should only be charged with armed robbery.

That’s a pretty serious charge in itself and he could serve some very serious time.


7 posted on 11/01/2007 5:24:24 AM PDT by colorcountry (The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it - Brigham Young)
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To: colorcountry
I think the judge was right on....and I’m a woman. The prostitute showed up already consenting to sex, she didn’t get her money....robbery, possible armed robbery. But I understand that “props” such as ropes, knives and handuffs are used during the act of prostituting, so even the gun probably isn’t that unusual.

there ya go, this should be called what it is, quit the boo hoo hoo PC crap

8 posted on 11/01/2007 5:29:47 AM PDT by sure_fine (• " not one to over kill the thought process " •)
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To: colorcountry

So gang rape is not really a crime?

Nice to hear that from someone who has Chist in their tagline.


9 posted on 11/01/2007 5:33:21 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: sure_fine

Gang rape is boo hoo PC crap?

I might just give up on FR if this is the only type of ratiocination here.


10 posted on 11/01/2007 5:34:29 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Interesting question really. I can see both sides but tend to agree with the judge.

A prostitute would likely have sex with anyone if the price was right as it’s the nature of the business.

I could see how an assault charge could also be levied if the act was physically injurious in any way.


11 posted on 11/01/2007 5:39:00 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Red in Blue PA

It should be robbery for the customer, but rape charges for the other men to whom she did not consent.


12 posted on 11/01/2007 5:41:45 AM PDT by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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Was the victim white? Because we all know what would have happened if she were a black single mother sex worker set upon by a group of men at a party. Or, maybe the Duke ‘rape’ fiasco has made people question all rape claims, (even valid ones) by sex workers.


13 posted on 11/01/2007 5:41:55 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: colorcountry
I think the judge was right on....and I’m a woman. The prostitute showed up already consenting to sex, she didn’t get her money....robbery, possible armed robbery. But I understand that “props” such as ropes, knives and handuffs are used during the act of prostituting, so even the gun probably isn’t that unusual.

So a woman does not have the right to say 'no.' A lot of convicted rapists like your reasoning.

14 posted on 11/01/2007 5:42:10 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If you read the article the prostitute actually agreed to have sex with at least one other man, and waited for him to get there. Kinda takes the “gang” out of it.

I pray that she learned her lesson, I pray that the perps will learn their lesson while they serve their sentence in jail too.

My tagline should raise all kinds of alarms with a Christian, it is anything BUT a Christian sentiment! I guess you didn’t recognize that. Is this the first time someone has disagreed with your thinking on FR? Because by your response to me, it seems you think everyone must think like you.

I believe that by calling this dispicable act “rape” we are denigrating the true crime of violence that unsuspecting, honorable women must endure at the hands of a depraved stranger who victimizes totally innocent victimes. I think the different nature of both types of crimes should be separated into different catagories. That’s my opinion. Your’s may vary (and probably does).


15 posted on 11/01/2007 5:42:18 AM PDT by colorcountry (The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it - Brigham Young)
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To: traderrob6

So it is open season on all prostitutes? Anything goes? Rape isn’t really rape, since at some point they will offer their services for money.

Sadly (and unbelievably) that appears to be the consensus here on FR.

Enough to make me rethink of logging in here.


16 posted on 11/01/2007 5:42:21 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: colorcountry

FACT: Prostitutes can be raped.

What don’t you understand about this?


17 posted on 11/01/2007 5:43:22 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Where’s the gun charges?


18 posted on 11/01/2007 5:43:24 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Sorry, judge, we’re not buying this load of crapola you’re selling. The prostitute may work in the sex trade, but that doesn’t mean that she isn’t entitled to “equal protection under the law”.

She was raped and, with all disrespect intended, you, your (lack of) honor, are a moron who should be removed from the bench!


19 posted on 11/01/2007 5:44:33 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This story will make Reader’s Digest ‘Outrageous’ section.


20 posted on 11/01/2007 5:46:33 AM PDT by moonman
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