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Crime Takes Fun Out of Halloween
JSOnline ^ | OCtober 31, 2007 | Eugene Kane

Posted on 11/01/2007 2:48:02 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

It's easy to forget that Halloween isn't the same carefree holiday for every child in our community.

In the central city, some neighborhoods can be scary places all year round. These are not places where you feel comfortable allowing young children to go from house to house accepting treats.

In areas where drug dealing, gunfire and other negative elements exist, you think twice before allowing young kids to knock on every door.

Mac Weddle, executive director of Northcott Neighborhood House, 2460 N. 6th St., thinks some of today's children will never get to know about the kind of Halloween fun their parents had. These days, it's a brave new world.

"The biggest difference is we used to trick-or-treat at night," Weddle said. "Who is going to let their children go out at night these days?"

What he means is that many urban communities are racked by so much crime and violence that few parents feel comfortable letting their children participate in traditional trick-or-treating. Many communities have restricted trick-or-treating to daylight hours.

Other communities eschew trick-or-treat in favor of more structured Halloween events. At community centers like Northcott, for example, Halloween parties were held this week to give preschool-age kids the chance to dress up in costumes and go from room to room collecting candy in a controlled environment.

"We've got lots of kids here today," he said Wednesday. "They're going to have lots of fun."

Weddle said Northcott and other places understand the need to provide safe places for children to participate in Halloween activities that kids in more affluent communities take for granted. He knows that in some areas, crime even rears its ugly head on Halloween.

I watched a TV news report about a Milwaukee child who had his Halloween candy stolen last weekend by older children. It was a typical heartbreaking example of a child's innocence lost. But it also tweaked my memory of reports of older kids stealing Halloween candy back when I was a child many decades ago.

It's nothing new for anybody who grew up in a tough neighborhood.

"One time, a bunch of older girls stole our candy," Weddle admitted sheepishly. "Don't print that."

(Sorry, Mac.)

A few years ago, I received an irate call from a white resident from the suburbs, upset that groups of inner city children showed up in her neighborhood on Halloween. She wanted to know why they couldn't go trick-or-treating in their own community.

Maybe they wanted to feel safe, I said. She had no answer for that.

Weddle knows several inner city families that go to Whitefish Bay or Mequon for trick-or-treating to give their children a better experience.

He and other black men involved in Northcott also patrolled central city neighborhoods last weekend in order to bring a sense of stability to the Halloween activities in those areas.

All Hallow's Eve, with its odd sense of horror and mysticism, has always been a fun holiday for kids. But first and foremost, the only way kids can truly enjoy Halloween is if they have a strong and stable community of adults surrounding them. That's not really the case for many African-American kids in Milwaukee these days.

Which means the trick is really on us.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: blacksabbath; crimerate; halloween; hallowseve; satanism; witchessabbat; witchsabbat
Local race-baiter checks in...but this time, the Blind Squirrel finds a nut!
1 posted on 11/01/2007 2:48:03 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Last night, zero kids, all the neighbors say the same. We’ve lived here for almost 30 years and have seen the numbers dwindle. It seemed to have picked up the last twos years or so. Last year we had about 20 kids. Weather was great, but sadly no kids this time.


2 posted on 11/01/2007 2:55:37 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: steveo

We never have Trick-or-Treaters because we live in the boonies and there is a prison nearby, LOL!

Dad commented today that even “in town” he only had two kids show up for treats last night.

And we live in a Cow Town of 6,000 people!

Yep. The MSM and our Publik Skrewels have accomplished their mission in spreading fear far and wide...but for all the wrong reasons.


3 posted on 11/01/2007 3:01:02 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Oh heck, I live in an “affluent” neighborhood and I’d never let my kids trick or treat alone like I used to.


4 posted on 11/01/2007 3:01:29 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yep you have to watch out for the escaped prisoner with a hook for a hand. :)


5 posted on 11/01/2007 3:04:26 PM PDT by Bruinator
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To: steveo
We had over fifty. Probably would have had more except for the rain.

This is a very stable neighborhood though which I think helps. Everybody knows everybody and who has the best candy. :)

6 posted on 11/01/2007 3:06:13 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We had about 20 groups of kids.

I give out rolls of toilet paper to the older kids and word apparently got around.


7 posted on 11/01/2007 3:09:16 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Here just outside the city of St. Louis is funny/sad from what I’ve seen, black families who come to more affluent neighborhoods to trick or treat. Candy is candy and their welcome to it, but without that crowd my house and my folk’s house would not get much traffic at all. Trick or treater numbers I suspect are down. Also America sprawls so badly it gets tough on little ones to hump out the distances. A lot of 2-3 bedroom places some times only have a single person living in them and they might just turn the lights off which if you live near that, discourages t&ter’s.


8 posted on 11/01/2007 3:09:40 PM PDT by samp in mo
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
We've lived in the same house for almost 12 years now and we got our very first trick-or-treaters last night. We're in the boonies too. We weren't home but our son was and he was blaring Guitar Hero III. He was shocked that someone knocked at our door.

Turns out it was one of my little girls former teacher with her son.

Can't find us if they don't know where to look for us. LOL

9 posted on 11/01/2007 3:11:12 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My Sons made out like bandits. Five pounds of candy -EACH!

Of course, we didn’t go in my neighborhood. We drove into the ritzy neighborhoods.

Heh-heh! Daddy’s not dumb!


10 posted on 11/01/2007 3:13:09 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: RandallFlagg

We collected 200 cans of food for the Food Pantry.


11 posted on 11/01/2007 3:15:02 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I had lots of little kids and just a few young teenagers.

One 3 year old girl was a real pro...with one hand she was able to scoop out 10 Hershey bars out of my candy bowl and by-passed the Milkyways.

Big grin on her face.

12 posted on 11/01/2007 3:24:24 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: keepitreal

When we moved from inner-city Milwaukee in 1970 (Thanks for being a success, Dad, and getting us the h#ll out of there!) to a ‘burb outside of Madistan, my sister and I thought we had moved to the ends of the Earth. We expected to see people on horseback for transportation and a milk cow in every yard.

Our first Halloween out there in Suburbia was very perplexing to us. Kids can Trick-or-Treat at NIGHT? Cool! We promptly got lost two blocks from our new home and luckily an astute Mom told us that we had already been to her house once, and she wasn’t giving us any more candy, LOL!

I was 10, Sis was about 6. We told her we were lost ‘City Kids’ and she showed us the way home. :)


13 posted on 11/01/2007 3:28:05 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
We had one ruckus about 1-1/2 mi from me, 21-year-old FEMALE arrested for threatening with a knife, bunch of adults got into it and went for knife, pepper spray, baseball bats, right in front of a bunch of little kids trick or treating. The adult female was from a neighborhood where there is a lot of government housing, and the incident in a neighborhood that has gone downhill but still looks pretty good.

I don't know if there were any kids out alone or not. We had a lot, just about ran out of candy which is unusual, I bought a lot.

Disgusting to ruin it for the kids.

14 posted on 11/01/2007 3:28:31 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Our church had a "controlled event" in the parking lot -- with bouncy air-filled thingies, free pizza and snow cones, prizes, balloons, a professional photographer in a picture-room, and fair-like games. Cars lined the parking lot with decorated trunks and people handed out candy by the bucket-load to costumed children of every shape, size, color, income level. Nearly a thousand children showed up, and parent after parent said they appreciated having a fun yet safe environment for their kids to be kids on Halloween.

This ain't your grandmother's age-of-innocence any more.

15 posted on 11/01/2007 3:28:44 PM PDT by shezza (wwrd?)
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To: Dinsdale

You are EVIL...and just what’s needed in a Parent these days, LOL! :)


16 posted on 11/01/2007 3:29:17 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RandallFlagg

We’d always hit the apartment complexes, especially if it was cold out. Lots of candy for little effort. :)


17 posted on 11/01/2007 3:30:07 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: shezza

“Nearly a thousand children showed up, and parent after parent said they appreciated having a fun yet safe environment for their kids to be kids on Halloween.”

I’ve volunteered for those same type of activities on New Year’s Eve ‘round here. We’ve been trying to make it more Family Friendly versus the adults going out and just getting plastered. ;)


18 posted on 11/01/2007 3:32:32 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A busdriver was telling me yesterday he hates driving on Halloween. Kids throw eggs at the front windows of the bus. Since they can’t be removed with the windshield wipers, the bus goes out of service and that creates passenger mayhem and shortages in the route. Plus it’s dangerous—blocks driver’s vision until he can pull over.


19 posted on 11/01/2007 3:34:54 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m happy to report that my crime-free, predominantly-Republican subdivision had a normal and happy Halloween with dozens of happy, polite, and respectful kids going door-to-door for treats, just like I got to do when I was their age. We just may have the safest neighborhood in all the US.


20 posted on 11/01/2007 3:41:21 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No kids calling here last night, nor on the designated previous Saturday and Sunday. In fact I think that I have seen only one group of kids in the 20 years we ‘ve lived here. I don’t even buy candy anymore.


21 posted on 11/01/2007 3:44:06 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: shezza
Cars lined the parking lot with decorated trunks and people handed out candy by the bucket-load to costumed children of every shape, size, color, income level.

Wifey's church does exactly the same thing. When she went down this morning, the word was that there were over 600 kids.

We had nary a doorknock last night (which is not unusual at our end of "the cove"), but it appears the trend is more toward these organized affairs.

22 posted on 11/01/2007 3:45:47 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve lived in my house for 30 years. When we first moved here we were lucky to get 5 kids. Last night there were over 60 kids...all from outside the neighborhood. Around 8 o’clock I actually ran out of candy and the kids were still coming in droves. I really felt terrible . The one thing I did notice was how polite all the kids and the parents were. It was a great night.


23 posted on 11/01/2007 3:47:37 PM PDT by heylady
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To: Dinsdale
We only had four small groups, mostly small kids. The weather was a little cold with a light drizzle.

I had taken Shmedley's place. Shmedley is our scarecrow who had been sitting on our porch for a couple of days. I was a little concerned about scaring little kids too much, but needn't have. One girl was scared of me without my moving (I stayed frozen until she left). The rest were unfazed when I came to life.

One mom came on the porch and had her back to me within arm reach. I tapped her on the shoulder.

Nothing.

I tapped her again.

Still nothing.

A little skeleton noticed me moving and said "hi".

I answered. Then mom turned and stared at me with her mouth and eyes wide open.

24 posted on 11/01/2007 3:48:00 PM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; SortaBichy
Harrumph...being PC, I offered up healthy alternatives to obesity-producing crap - all vegetable based:

Once you get the sleight of hand thing going, they never know the difference 'til they're down the street.

25 posted on 11/01/2007 3:49:16 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Well now I’ve got 4 bags of Reese’s peanut butter cups and 2 bags of Kit Kats to eat, only 4 kids showed up and I live in a nice neighborhood.


26 posted on 11/01/2007 3:51:51 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (No I ain't got no damn milk, so quit asking me.)
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To: ErnBatavia

LOL! :)


27 posted on 11/01/2007 3:53:40 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: jwh_Denver

Oh, poor, poor, pitiful YOU, LOL!

(Don’t miss my tag line...)


28 posted on 11/01/2007 3:54:51 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: ErnBatavia

We had no visitors at our door, not one. Haven’t had any trick-or-treaters for the four years we’ve lived here in this house, either. Of course our driveway is steep, dark, spooky and back in the woods, so unless someone is headed this way for a darned good reason (candy apparently doesn’t meet that criterion), folks don’t come up this way. And I like it like that. ;)


29 posted on 11/01/2007 3:58:32 PM PDT by shezza (wwrd?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

That’s right, poor pitiful me!


30 posted on 11/01/2007 4:33:39 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (No I ain't got no damn milk, so quit asking me.)
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To: steveo
Last night, zero kids, all the neighbors say the same.

Same with our area....It was a ghost town..

31 posted on 11/01/2007 4:37:32 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: ErnBatavia

Not good—#3 ingredient is high fructose corn syrup.


32 posted on 11/02/2007 2:10:59 AM PDT by beaversmom
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