Skip to comments.Drug submarines found in Colombia
Posted on 11/01/2007 10:24:52 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
The Colombian navy has seized two homemade submarines believed to have been built by the Farc rebel group to smuggle cocaine out of the country.
The two fibreglass vessels were found in a clandestine shipyard outside the country's largest port, Buenaventura.
One of the 17m (56ft) submarines was ready for launch, while the other had nearly been completed, the navy said.
Correspondents say drug-traffickers are increasingly relying on the sea to avoid checkpoints and border crossings.
Since 2005, the Colombian armed forces have uncovered nine homemade submarines, including a 20m (66ft) vessel on the country's Caribbean coast in August.
In 2000, police found a 30m (100ft) steel submarine under construction far inland, near the capital Bogota, which would have been capable of carrying up to 200 tons of cocaine.
bmflr, I’ve seen this kind of thing before.
Sounds like it may be time for some aggressive A.S.W. “Sighted Sub - Sank Same!”
I liked the one about them using trained dolphins as mules.
I would love to read a techno-thriller about a rogue group with unlimited finances develop a genetic superbug that rendered all types of coca plants infertile or capable of producing any amount of opium.
The harvest of the next crop would be a big surprise to a LOT of people.
Should of waited until they put to see than sink them with the product inside.
Then we’d see a big shift of drug routes from the middle east and the Golden Triangle. It’s like pushing on a tube of toothpaste.
BS. They issued this same report last year when the Plan Colombia funding came up for review. Another 500 million dollars of our tax money down the tubes. I am sure Calderon will add on to his estate.
What does Calderon(Mexico) have to do with Colombia?
CBP Air and Marine Directs Interdiction of Semi-Sub Smuggling Vessel
Sorry, I forgot the Columbian president was Alvaro URIBE Velez.
Those fiberglass hulls were not part of last years story, just the steel ones found inland.
I know your against the war on drugs, and would rather see this stuff dumped on our streets in greater abundance, and made even easier for children to access and destroy their lives, and destroy our nation in general, but I disagree.
I also disagree that it is a waste of taxpayers money. Keeping this stuff off the streets is cheaper that paying for all the social ills, the crime, sickness and death it causes.
Most of the crime and killings happen not because of intoxication but because the trade must be clandestine.
B.S. drug addicts can't afford the habit because they are too burned out to work. They'd still be robbing, breaking into houses and killing to get the money for their fix even if it were "legal". They'd still be sharing needles and the aids, hepatitis, etc. that goes along with it.
They'd still overdose, wind up in hospitals under taxpayers dime getting cleaned up. They'd still be patronizing methadone clinics, they'd still wind up in prison or mental institutions, all of which is a burden to taxpayers.
If it were 'legal' the government stuff would still be crap, and better, tax free "street drugs" would still be sold underground. The whole idea that "legalized drugs" would solve any problems is laughable. Those that propose it obviously haven't thought out that argument very well, probably because they are too stoned to think.
Legalized would only mean government controlled, like tobacco and alcohol. It is still illegal to smuggle tobacco and alcohol. There are still laws governing possession amounts. That's why there are still tobacco and booze smugglers.
These things have to be death traps. A dolphin fart would probably crack that hull like a depth charge.
Where is "This stuff" off the streets? Name an area of the country where cocaine is unavailable to those who seek it.
The street price of cocaine has been consistently dropping during the entire "War on Drugs."
Your mistaken assumption is anything is being "Kept off the streets."
Talked to a guy from the USCG last week that said these subs submerge really, really well.
They sometimes have trouble coming back up.
Those fiberglass hulls were not part of last years story, just the steel ones found inland. I know your against the war on drugs, and would rather see this stuff dumped on our streets in greater abundance, and made even easier for children to access and destroy their lives, and destroy our nation in general, but I disagree.Shoot, do you know how much cocaine ends up in corporate boardrooms and the halls of Washington? If Al Qaeda wanted to shut down the US all they'd have to do is start suicide bombing drug dealers in Columbia.
B.S. drug addicts can't afford the habit because they are too burned out to work. They'd still be robbing, breaking into houses and killing to get the money for their fix even if it were "legal". They'd still be sharing needles and the aids, hepatitis, etc. that goes along with it.:rolleyes: Drug addicts are a self eliminating problem. Give them drugs, food and an apartment. It would cost $10,000 a year tops. Jail costs $25,000+. Better yet a drug addict dies in year or two, while an recidivist inmate will cost the system hundreds of thousands, if not millions when all is said and done.
It’s cheaper when it is illegal. If it was legal, it would be taxed like cigs and gasoline. People used to the untaxed illegal drugs wouldn’t pay the high cost legal drug.
I know plenty of people using, now, untaxed heating oil in their cars and trucks. Ditto smoking imported North Carolina cigs. Just to wrap up, making drugs legal, would cause their prices to consumers to rise.
It is important to remember that the nations that once had no laws against drugs now have the strictest forms of anti-drug enforcement. That is simply because drugs destroyed their societies in the past. (Reference China and Turkey.)
China fought 2 wars, in 1841 and in 1856, to keep Opium out after they outlawed it. They lost Hong Kong to the British in the first war.
The intresting thing about this is that , much the same way we and the old USSR conducted business during the cold war, once you submerge all the rules of engagement become as grey as the water you sank in. If these morons wish to play like a rogue sub then we should treat them accordingly. If they can payload a coupla hundred tons of cocain then they could do the same with most anything else and should therefore be treated as a military target and “liquidated with extreme prejudice”. After the guys drivin’ the things figure out that ALL of their buddys “sleep with the fish’s “ it will be an insurmountable recruiting job for somebody.
And if the use of cocaine was legalized, presumably more people would use it, more people would abuse it, and more lives and families would be ruined.
There's no panacea for fighting the war on drugs, just like there is no panacea for fighting the war on first degree murder.
In addition to this it would provide a lot of fun and exciting live fire exercises for our ASW forces. Save lots of money setting up simulated exercises.
I would say AQ would offer to pay more for a smaller shipment of items weightwise to be shipped instead, something nuclear.
Don't legalizers always say that keeping drugs illegal only drives up their street value? According to the laws of supply and demand, ending drug interdiction would increase the supply available for sale, thus lowering the price.
If it was legal, it would be taxed like cigs and gasoline. People used to the untaxed illegal drugs wouldnt pay the high cost legal drug.
That's right. They would just buy it on the black market without paying the tax like they do now.
“..supply and demand.”
Supply exceeds, and has so for decades, demand. Prices for same same products has decreased.
Yeah, good luck with that one. You guys have been trying it for over 30 years, and have failed so badly it's embarrassing at this point.
You ignore that the most common way that cocaine was used prior to its being banned, was in teas and other weak forms.
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