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'This Will Make Voter Fraud Easier'
WSJ ^ | Nov.2, 2007 | JOHN FUND

Posted on 11/02/2007 6:01:51 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

Why does Mrs. Clinton want driver's licenses for illegal aliens?

Sen. Hillary Clinton was asked during a debate this week if she supported New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer's plan to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. At first she seemed to endorse the idea, then claimed, "I did not say that it should be done, but I certainly recognize why Governor Spitzer is trying to do it."

The next day she took a firmer stand (sort of) by offering general support for Gov. Spitzer's approach, but adding that she hadn't studied his specific plan. She should, and so should the rest of us. It stops just short of being an engraved invitation for people to commit voter fraud.

The background here is the National Voter Registration Act, commonly known as "Motor Voter," that President Bill Clinton signed into law in 1993. It required all states to offer voter registration to anyone getting a driver's license. One simply fills out a form and checks a box stating he is a citizen; he is then registered and in most states does not have to show any ID to vote.

But no one checks if the person registering to vote is indeed a citizen. That greatly concerns New York election officials, who processed 245,000 voter registrations at DMV offices last year. "It would be [tough to catch] if someone wanted to . . . get a number of people registered who aren't citizens and went ahead and got them drivers' licenses," says Lee Daghlian, spokesman for New York's Board of Elections.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; democratparty; democrats; elections; fraud; hillary; immigrantlist; motorfraudo; motorvoter; spitzer; voterfraud
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To: Zerodown

I don’t have the link, unfortunately, but I saw a site that graded politicians on their positions on immigration. Fred scored an overall C, with A+’s in border control and something else important, but which was offset with low grades on things like penalizing employers who were tricked with fraudulent ID (and a reasonable argument -can- be made for that, in that it’s really the federal government’s job, not employers). Not a -terrific- record, but nothing to be overwhelmingly ashamed of either, especially since it was in the 90’s and it wasn’t exactly a hot issue then. I do think, out of the big 5 contenders, between that record and the positions he’s staking out now he has the best record overall on immigration.

Qwinn


41 posted on 11/02/2007 12:58:42 PM PDT by Qwinn
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To: socialismisinsidious

Now yer just thinking outside the box...

That’s going to become illegal too very soon...

[snarf, snicker]


42 posted on 11/02/2007 1:08:40 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Logical me
The 2008 election cycle will be the biggest voter fraud this Country has ever experienced. Is there any doubt?

the dims and especially clintoon inc. have been pumping up the fraud system for a looooong time . IMO thats why they were so peeved in 2000. To them there was no possible way they could lose, the fix was in.

This is the reason I think her heinyous will be tough to beat in the general, unless its a complete landslide [ which will look like a dead heat ].

For this reason alone I think a divided dim primary is a good thing...

43 posted on 11/02/2007 1:12:14 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: COUNTrecount; Suzy Quzy

You said it! Illegals are already pros at cheating. This will be a cakewalk for them.


44 posted on 11/02/2007 1:38:18 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: COUNTrecount

Maybe I’m missing something here, but don’t you have to provide a SS Number when you apply for a license? I know I did when I applied for my license. They don’t print it on your license, but I had to either show them my SS card, or provide them with the number when I applied for my license. With Motor Voter, has this been done away with?

If so, then if someone who already has a valid license wants to assume another identity, then all they have to do is give a phony name, say they are a citizen, and Wham! they have a new license, a new identity, and can vote twice in an election.

Or am I wrong?


45 posted on 11/02/2007 2:04:18 PM PDT by murron
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To: murron
Or am I wrong?

No you're not. In NY the law requires a SSN to get a license and his office has publicly stated they are going to arbitrarily roll that back. Spitzer has convinced himself he was appointed king.

46 posted on 11/02/2007 2:08:19 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“Motor Voter is better described as Auto Fraudo.”

Auto Fraudo. That’s a good one. You need to send that into Rush. That is funny.


47 posted on 11/02/2007 2:10:34 PM PDT by murron
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To: COUNTrecount
.....Of course, Mrs. $hrillary William Jefferson Blight Klintoon (Bubbette) AND Mr. Bubba William Jefferson Blight Klintoon (Bubba/Slick Willie/very little willie) et al.....didn't have this "in mind" from the start (Federal Motor = Voter Fraud).....but, rem: "we were warned, back then, too"
48 posted on 11/02/2007 2:10:34 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: Qwinn
between that record and the positions he’s staking out now he has the best record overall on immigration

Agree, Fred deserves a C. However, now that the entire nation has been hispanified, it's a bit late to claim to have been anti-illegal immigration. It's been a hot issue since the late 1960's.

Yes, the Border should be strictly controlled. Yes illegal aliens should be deported, but the illegal parents of American Citizens are usually not, as a matter of policy, if not law, deported.

49 posted on 11/02/2007 2:12:22 PM PDT by Zerodown (Draft Petraeus. Or how about Pace? What do you say we win this one?)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Well that tells you right there that this isn’t to keep track of illegals, but a more sinister motive.


50 posted on 11/02/2007 2:12:57 PM PDT by murron
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To: murron

Yup votes.


51 posted on 11/02/2007 2:16:34 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Suzy Quzy
Thank you, John Fund!! It;s what I’ve been saying for 3 days. It’s ALL about VOTE FRAUD!!!!!!!!!

It goes beyond simple vote fraud.

Hillary is a sworn enemy of the electoral college.

Hillary wants to add 13 million democrats, and steer the country towards a mobocracy. That is the grand plan.

52 posted on 11/02/2007 3:09:40 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: COUNTrecount
I've been screaming about this since SPitzer announced it.
Too bad Fund forgot to mention that 1/2 of the hijackers on 9-11 were registered to vote.
53 posted on 11/02/2007 5:10:12 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: COUNTrecount

Voter fraud? Don’t be silly....she can’t win without it!


54 posted on 11/02/2007 7:32:25 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: Gilbo_3
the dims and especially clintoon inc. have been pumping up the fraud system for a looooong time . IMO thats why they were so peeved in 2000. To them there was no possible way they could lose, the fix was in.

Right on. All the RATS have been doing is building this machine for years. With the concentration of the effort, we do have reason to worry. Hate to see the Senate, House and now maybe the Executive branch go Socialist and watch out. And add to that the illegal voters, the remaining brain dead Americans, damn!!!!

55 posted on 11/05/2007 8:34:35 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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